CSJ addresses moral leadership and ministerial entitlement in PAP
08-08-2023, 01:05 PM
One thing I don't like about him (and Jamus) is the accent. Both of them, the accent is too faked.
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08-08-2023, 01:29 PM
Alot of what he said that Singaporeans live in small flats dense housing while the 2 ministers stay in Large B&W House etc etc.
All these we know without his speech and this being brought up...same with many other points he brought up ...Singaporeans already had their bouts of unhappiness over the issue.
To bring all this up to attack your opponent and repeat what tell people already know, I feel is not good political tactics.....its like doing for the sake of doing and to score some points opportunistic points against the opponent.
This episode js already a black spot on the PAP without Chee coming out to step all over the matter. The opposition in parliament already have hours of questions debate on the matter.
I thought Chee looks too eager and opportunistic come out out at this point in time to stir this after it has been stirirred to death already.
All these we know without his speech and this being brought up...same with many other points he brought up ...Singaporeans already had their bouts of unhappiness over the issue.
To bring all this up to attack your opponent and repeat what tell people already know, I feel is not good political tactics.....its like doing for the sake of doing and to score some points opportunistic points against the opponent.
This episode js already a black spot on the PAP without Chee coming out to step all over the matter. The opposition in parliament already have hours of questions debate on the matter.
I thought Chee looks too eager and opportunistic come out out at this point in time to stir this after it has been stirirred to death already.
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08-08-2023, 01:46 PM
(08-08-2023, 01:29 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: Alot of what he said that Singaporeans live in small flats dense housing while the 2 ministers stay in Large B&W House etc etc.
All these we know without his speech and this being brought up...same with many other points he brought up ...Singaporeans already had their bouts of unhappiness over the issue.
To bring all this up to attack your opponent and repeat what tell people already know, I feel is not good political tactics.....its like doing for the sake of doing and to score some points opportunistic points against the opponent.
This episode js already a black spot on the PAP without Chee coming out to step all over the matter. The opposition in parliament already have hours of questions debate on the matter.
I thought Chee looks too eager and opportunistic come out out at this point in time to stir this after it has been stirirred to death already.
it is not over until the next GE.
for sure it will be a hot potato.
08-08-2023, 02:00 PM
We all need to stir to make sure the message is brought across. Right now, they think is is “boh taichi” and the case closed.
It is not closed and we need to bring it up constantly and repeatedly into their brains.
It is not closed and we need to bring it up constantly and repeatedly into their brains.
08-08-2023, 02:02 PM
(08-08-2023, 01:29 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: Alot of what he said that Singaporeans live in small flats dense housing while the 2 ministers stay in Large B&W House etc etc.
All these we know without his speech and this being brought up...same with many other points he brought up ...Singaporeans already had their bouts of unhappiness over the issue.
To bring all this up to attack your opponent and repeat what tell people already know, I feel is not good political tactics.....its like doing for the sake of doing and to score some points opportunistic points against the opponent.
This episode js already a black spot on the PAP without Chee coming out to step all over the matter. The opposition in parliament already have hours of questions debate on the matter.
I thought Chee looks too eager and opportunistic come out out at this point in time to stir this after it has been stirirred to death already.
people know about rideout saga.
but do you know the moral story of the rideout saga on PAP leadership ?
can you tell us the moral story of the rideout saga on PAP leadership ?
provide evidence to support your moral.
08-08-2023, 02:18 PM
(08-08-2023, 01:29 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: This episode js already a black spot on the PAP without Chee coming out to step all over the matter. The opposition in parliament already have hours of questions debate on the matter.
I thought Chee looks too eager and opportunistic come out out at this point in time to stir this after it has been stirirred to death already.
different people have different conclusion/learning on the rideout saga.
opposition in parliament questioned on the possibility of corruption,conflict of interest and abuse of power.
any MP questioned the morality of the ministers ?
any MP asked the minister why minister must live in big bungalow for big family but citizens cannot live in bigger hdb for big family ?
no MP asked about the morality of the ministers.
Dr Chee is sharing what he thinks is the lesson learnt from the rideout bungalow.
08-08-2023, 02:25 PM
08-08-2023, 02:25 PM
(08-08-2023, 01:29 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: To bring all this up to attack your opponent and repeat what tell people already know, I feel is not good political tactics.....its like doing for the sake of doing and to score some points opportunistic points against the opponent.
This episode js already a black spot on the PAP without Chee coming out to step all over the matter. The opposition in parliament already have hours of questions debate on the matter.
I thought Chee looks too eager and opportunistic come out out at this point in time to stir this after it has been stirirred to death already.
let me give another example.
did any opposition member question why PAP have 3 adultery cases in parliament ?
did any opposition member rebuke on the poor morality of PAP MPs ?
did any opposition member rebuke on PAP on how PAP MP should improve on their morality ?
did any opposition member share how PAP can prevent future adultery by adopting industry best practices ?
the answer is no because Dr Chee is not in parliament.
08-08-2023, 02:35 PM
(08-08-2023, 01:05 PM)Oyk Wrote: One thing I don't like about him (and Jamus) is the accent. Both of them, the accent is too faked.
(08-08-2023, 01:05 PM)Oyk Wrote: On the contrary my daughter love them. Always offer them f.o.c but they refused and reported her for attempted bribery. Court hearing coming soon
08-08-2023, 02:36 PM
(08-08-2023, 01:29 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: To bring all this up to attack your opponent and repeat what tell people already know, I feel is not good political tactics.....its like doing for the sake of doing and to score some points opportunistic points against the opponent.
This episode js already a black spot on the PAP without Chee coming out to step all over the matter. The opposition in parliament already have hours of questions debate on the matter.
I thought Chee looks too eager and opportunistic come out out at this point in time to stir this after it has been stirirred to death already.
if you scrutinise the speeches of all opposition parties, they target different aspect of PAP.
WP targets on the PAP policy but not on morality of PAP.
PSP targets on the ground issues (PMET,CECA, foreigners) but not on morality of PAP.
SDP targets on ground issues (poverty, fairness,equality) but also on morality of PAP.
SDP expects PAP leaders to walk the talk.
SDP cannot tolerate PAP leaders to tell voters that they cannot have bigger hdb for big family but PAP leaders can have bigger bungalows for
big family.
08-08-2023, 02:44 PM
(08-08-2023, 02:00 PM)Gstalk Wrote: We all need to stir to make sure the message is brought across. Right now, they think is is “boh taichi” and the case closed.
It is not closed and we need to bring it up constantly and repeatedly into their brains.
they have to declare everything.....assets and salaries....local and overseas
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