(18-01-2023, 11:06 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: We are talking about different things.
In the end may still be guilty..depends on how to argue.
But like I said earlier all this 5B recovered means it is aligned with his story that it is all there but because they are very messy and unstructured.
The DOJ will say he was trying to hide and steal it..which he can now say he wasn't ig js just stored away.
If no money is recovered and its gone, his story is wont stand.
Finding this money vs not finding it makes a big difference to the case.
Also it proves the reports and media wrong and SBF right encase he claimed all FTX USA customers will be made whole
Campaign financing violation etc are less serious.
Please, I already said 5B vs liability of 8B, there is a big hole
Until FTX liquidators make accessible the totality of user's funds and account for every individual user's accounts, nobody should imply innocence nor guilt here
Besides, the prosecutor has laid charges on very broad terminology, referring to fraud against equity investors, you have wrote about that before
I don't consider users or customers as falling under equity investors, so the prosecution needs to clarify this before any defense can proceed
Already said, the DOJ is not raising the charges against him for FTX US behalf
It is using a broadbrush to haul him in and hurriedly put together the charges to get him in
If the DOJ finally fail to prosecute Sam successfully, it is definitely NOT because he did not lie nor because FTX US can be made whole
It will be likely due to some technicalities and the manner the charges are framed to allow him to escape being found guilty
His collaborators Caroline, Andy and that whistle-blower have already already turned state witnesses
In any case, hold your comments regarding his guilt just because they found 5B
This means nothing in the whole scheme of things, not like what you said, that it makes a big difference
Big difference, keelan lah! NO DIFF!