[sgbuffett]

HSI like Bo lat. want to reverse down again.

Dow n Nasdaq last nite also Bo lat.

September bad month for stock. October even worse. Mention October big crash memory come to everyone mind.

HSI fell when Dow went up.

Now it recover a bit when Dow falls it starts falling again.

[victortan]

It has not been able to clear the 20K level and stay above it.

Look at chart below each time it goes above 20k it becomes unstable and goes down.

Expert traders will short the HSI each time it goes above 20K and take profit when it drops below.

Look like China gg to take a long time to recover. 
Don’t buy so early. If really wan then go dca slowly. 

https://www.ft.com/content/56794f16-ea14...d0c31f93a9

[Zannn]

I am closing all my short positions since HSI started falling at 20K level.

If it goes back to this resistance I can short again.

Oh no oh no Sgbuffett, u finally cut loss now for your shorts which u maxed out at 17700? Does this mean u  agree/ see Hsi on up trend?

[victortan]

Oh no oh no Sgbuffett, u finally cut loss now for your shorts which u maxed out at 17700? Does this mean u  agree/ see Hsi on up trend?

My friend said they go short. No offence. 
Cause cina problem can only get worse before it get better. 

Tonite the US non farm payroll vy solid so fed may rise rate further n hold them longer. 

Dow set to fall.

[Zannn]

My friend said they go short. No offence. 
Cause cina problem can only get worse before it get better. 

Tonite the US non farm payroll vy solid so fed may rise rate further n hold them longer. 

Dow set to fall.

Sgbuffett cut loss on his shorts he max out at 17700 and turn bullish now)

[sgbuffett]

Oh no oh no Sgbuffett, u finally cut loss now for your shorts which u maxed out at 17700? Does this mean u  agree/ see Hsi on up trend?

I start shorting at 20k level and increased right down to 17700 unfortunately I did not take maximum profit at that time.

Closing now I am still profitable but less profitable.

I decided to close as the actions of China govt will delay the market from falling so I don't see immediate gains from holding. Should they push the HSI back to 20k that will be another shorting opportunity as the HSI always fail to stay above 20k

[Sentinel]

My friend said they go short. No offence. 
Cause cina problem can only get worse before it get better. 

Tonite the US non farm payroll vy solid so fed may rise rate further n hold them longer. 

Dow set to fall.

Are you sure you know wat you saying or not?

Strong dollar leads to lower or no rate hike, understand?

[sgbuffett]

Are you sure you know wat you saying or not?

Strong dollar leads to lower or no rate hike, understand?

He did not say dollar he said non farm payroll is strong and that leads to rate hike

The stock market going up as rates go up looks and feel good but can lead to a sudden unwind and abrupt move should the stress of higher rate suddenly push the economy to breaking point.

Personally I find the situation rather risky. ....

The hope is for "soft landing" .....but teh fed can lose control just like they did when it comes to inflation in 2022.

So long as the US market keep going up bullish investors will keep laughing at the bears but I wonder who will have the last laugh...


Bond market expects another rate hike.

[Sentinel]

He did not say dollar he said non farm payroll is strong and that leads to rate hike

That means he does not understand the various co-relations at all, which every trader knows to heart

Good nfp figures -----> Surge in dollar strength------> FEDs to consider dropping interest rate -------> DOW react positively

Dont believe? Next week you will see the ripple effect on the mkt

If IAM wrong, I hand over The ORACLE title to you unconditionally!

[victortan]

He did not say dollar he said non farm payroll is strong and that leads to rate hike

The stock market going up as rates go up looks and feel good but can lead to a sudden unwind and abrupt move should the stress of higher rate suddenly push the economy to breaking point.

Personally I find the situation rather risky. ....

The hope is for "soft landing" .....but teh fed can lose control just like they did when it comes to inflation in 2022.

So long as the US market keep going up bullish investors will keep laughing at the bears but I wonder who will have the last laugh...


Bond market expects another rate hike.

I wonder with so high rate yet the economy is doing well. I wonder are those data outdated n not current. US housing is another bubble. 

It hv been said tat fed is always behind the curve. Otherwise we would not hv recession n mkt crashes. 

It could be like previous recession all of a sudden we are in one then fed will start to reduce rate then mkt will rally.

[Zannn]

I start shorting at 20k level and increased right down to 17700 unfortunately I did not take maximum profit at that time.

Closing now I am still profitable but less profitable.

I decided to close as the actions of China govt will delay the market from falling so I don't see immediate gains from holding. Should they push the HSI back to 20k that will be another shorting opportunity as the HSI always fail to stay above 20k

Lol u only posted u short using CFD at 17700 range and then say max out. U did not say u short at 20k dude. Cannot snake around like that la. Cut loss is ok as long as u admit u went wrong direction

[victortan]

That means he does not understand the various co-relations at all, which every trader knows to heart

Good nfp figures -----> Surge in dollar strength------> FEDs to consider dropping interest rate -------> DOW react positively

Dont believe? Next week you will see the ripple effect on the mkt

If IAM wrong, I hand over The ORACLE title to you unconditionally!

I don trade. I buy n hold fundamental stock with good FA lah. 

It is just my opinion. Don take me seriously. I could be wrong. 

Of course every dip is a buy for me as I hv sell half already. I m sory if tat hurt u.

Last nite I bought a bit of TSLA as it decrease car price investor not so happy n they sell.

Economy solid give fed more room to increase rate further n hold rate longer is bad for stock. Especially my tech stock.

[victortan]

All in all better to buy n hold solid stock using dca. That is how I grow my portfolio for 15 yrs after I switched over to wall st from SGX. 

Try not yo trade. Trading is tough. Maybe u got affinity so can go ahead. 

Good for one does not means it is good for all.

[Sentinel]

I don trade. I buy n hold fundamental stock with good FA lah. 

It is just my opinion. Don take me seriously. I could be wrong. 

Of course every dip is a buy for me as I hv sell half already. I m sory if tat hurt u.

Last nite I bought a bit of TSLA as it decrease car price investor not so happy n they sell.

Economy solid give fed more room to increase rate further n hold rate longer is bad for stock. Especially my tech stock.

If you are not trading, then there is no need for you to look at NFP because NFP effect on the DXY and Dow is only within that Friday window.

And no, you did not hurt me

NOTHING HURTS ME,
IAM A RIGHTEOUS ROCK,
IAM INVINCIBLE

[victortan]

Just to shr.

My buddy recommend this

https://youtu.be/dJUWdMW1xoM?si=hp6MQwyo6Xa4c-F-

[sgbuffett]

Lol u only posted u short using CFD at 17700 range and then say max out. U did not say u short at 20k dude. Cannot snake around like that la. Cut loss is ok as long as u admit u went wrong direction

Since 20K level I already said smart traders start shorting.
Until today HSI is 1500pts below 20K...thats a long way down.

[victortan]

Since 20K level I already said smart traders start shorting.
Until today HSI is 1500pts below 20K...thats a long way down.

Now can short. TA wise my buddy already open position. Pls dyodd. Not a call but sharing.

[sgbuffett]

Now can short. TA wise my buddy already open position. Pls dyodd. Not a call but sharing.

Better to short at 20K where HSI is proven to go down Everytime.

If you short now HSI may move against you temporarily.....esp when China govt is talking up the market....and dishing out support every day for the market.

[Zannn]

Better to short at 20K where HSI is proven to go down Everytime.

If you short now HSI may move against you temporarily.....esp when China govt is talking up the market....and dishing out support every day for the market.

That’s why I ask u to cut loss when u max out cfd st 17700 range. Look back my posting. Now then u cut bro. Also, can u just share yr view that u see market will go up to 20k soon correct?

[victortan]

HKSE most likely no trading due to typhoon.

[victortan]

Better to short at 20K where HSI is proven to go down Everytime.

If you short now HSI may move against you temporarily.....esp when China govt is talking up the market....and dishing out support every day for the market.

Look like u r gg to be right this time. Congra. 
I assume u will short at this 20k. 

Good n luck to u.

[victortan]

I wonder with so high rate yet the economy is doing well. I wonder are those data outdated n not current. US housing is another bubble. 

It hv been said tat fed is always behind the curve. Otherwise we would not hv recession n mkt crashes. 

It could be like previous recession all of a sudden we are in one then fed will start to reduce rate then mkt will rally.

Fed are always behind the curve. If not where got mkt crash n recession. 

But they are fast to reverse if mkt tank. 
Then stock will moon. Good fr us.

[sgbuffett]

Bounce a bit have not reach 20k the sell off starts.

Technically China/HK market remains weak.

[WhatDoYouThink!]

Yesterday up 500 pts you went hiding?

[sgbuffett]

Yesterday up 500 pts you went hiding?

I already predicted such temporary rebounds and closed my short positions already.

Rise a bit today donate back.

[sgbuffett]

Yesterday rise is just temporary one day thing.

Smart traders have come back to short the HSI for good profits.

So long as China economy is weak not possible to have a sustained rally

[Zannn]

Yesterday rise is just temporary one day thing.

Smart traders have come back to short the HSI for good profits.

So long as China economy is weak not possible to have a sustained rally

Bro pls state yr position clearly, long or short? Don’t one day long just because of stimulus and next day see market drop a bit say short. Traders wants to know how to counter yr reverse prediction

[WhatDoYouThink!]

Gone up 3700 in 11m despite yr daily shouting collapse.

[sgbuffett]

Gone up 3700 in 11m despite yr daily shouting collapse.

Please read the title....it says HSI is unable to stay above 20K level. Where js HSI now?

I never say HSI is down from lowest point last yr.

Those who bought this yr anticipating China recovery lost money.

And things are not getting better in fact getting worse.

[WhatDoYouThink!]

For that past 11m, you hv not made any money despite it rises 3700?