Singapore, one of world's highest roads + MRT density but few own a car
#31

(04-09-2024, 07:55 AM)winbig Wrote:  HDB lease is 99 years. People will up lorry first before the lease expire.

As buyers of HDB flats have only purchased a lease on a public housing project, they do not actually own their home. So genuine home ownership in SG is a paltry 20%.  
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#32

(03-09-2024, 10:02 PM)Scythian Wrote:  "Car ownership in Singapore
Singapore has one of the lowest car ownership rates, among advanced economies, worldwide. In 2022, there were only 149 cars per thousand inhabitants here, a rate less than half that of the UAE or Taiwan, a quarter that of the United Kingdom and Switzerland, and six times less than New Zealand and the United States."
"COE prices hit a new high in October, following repeated new records set in prior months. The open category now changes hands at $152,000, more than five times the recommended retail price of a brand-new Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla sold elsewhere. 

This is one of the major drivers of ever-rising pressure on our nation’s cost of living, and COEs were implicated in the most recent increase in headline inflation"

"Car ownership in Singapore
Singapore has one of the lowest car ownership rates, among advanced economies, worldwide."

Yes, this is our goal.
Car-lite City...🤗💪
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#33

(04-09-2024, 11:23 AM)moonrab Wrote:  "Car ownership in Singapore
Singapore has one of the lowest car ownership rates, among advanced economies, worldwide."

Yes, this is our goal.
Car-lite City...🤗💪

Stupid goal 

Dumb and dumber
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#34

(04-09-2024, 06:52 PM)Scythian Wrote:  Stupid goal 

Dumb and dumber

They will knock you stupiak head..🤣

Britain’s big cities should aim to increase number of public transport commuters by nearly one million, says Centre for Cities

Large UK cities lag well behind their European counterparts in terms of public transport ridership. Getting up to speed with Europe will require an additional 936,000 workers taking public transport to work.
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#35

(04-09-2024, 07:21 PM)moonrab Wrote:  They will knock you stupiak head..🤣

Britain’s big cities should aim to increase number of public transport commuters by nearly one million, says Centre for Cities

Large UK cities lag well behind their European counterparts in terms of public transport ridership. Getting up to speed with Europe will require an additional 936,000 workers taking public transport to work.

You ve never provide solution to solve any problem but instead continuously bringing up others contradictory issues to mislead everyone.

Talk about how to abolish COE will you?
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#36

(04-09-2024, 09:01 AM)EvertonDiehard Wrote:  As buyers of HDB flats have only purchased a lease on a public housing project, they do not actually own their home. So genuine home ownership in SG is a paltry 20%.  

I believe HDB owners still own their home. There are different set of rules and regulation for owning a public housing and private housing. Other than govt no one can ask u to get out of your HDB.
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#37

(05-09-2024, 04:37 AM)Scythian Wrote:  You ve never provide solution to solve any problem but instead continuously bringing up others contradictory issues to mislead everyone.

Talk about how to abolish COE will you?

COE is the solution la, why you so stubborn 😂
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#38

(05-09-2024, 07:19 AM)moonrab Wrote:  COE is the solution la, why you so stubborn 😂

The whole world doesn't believe such rubbish except those ranked highest IQ
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#39

(05-09-2024, 07:19 AM)moonrab Wrote:  COE is the solution la, why you so stubborn 😂

Should request to be invited by UN Secretary General to lecture UN assembly on COE, the best solution to effectively reduce not only in NY but global traffic.

Singapore can teach the world
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#40

(05-09-2024, 07:24 PM)Scythian Wrote:  The whole world doesn't believe such rubbish except those ranked highest IQ

I know you have low IQ, don't be too depressed ok? Cheers 🍻!
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#41

(05-09-2024, 07:28 PM)Scythian Wrote:  Should request to be invited by UN Secretary General to lecture UN assembly on COE, the best solution to effectively reduce not only in NY but global traffic.

Singapore can teach the world

Cannot la..

The success of the car-lite city initiative is not solely attributed to the solution itself, but rather to the enthusiastic adoption and support from the community. This collective effort has transformed the vision into a tangible reality.

Many people like you just cannot understand the simple logic. Too bad..🤣🍻
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#42

(05-09-2024, 07:44 PM)moonrab Wrote:  Cannot la..

The success of the car-lite city initiative is not solely attributed to the solution itself, but rather to the enthusiastic adoption and support from the community. This collective effort has transformed the vision into a tangible reality.

Many people like you just cannot understand the simple logic. Too bad..🤣🍻
Wrong..

It's the whole world doesn't understand the logic
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#43

(05-09-2024, 07:46 PM)Scythian Wrote:  Wrong..

It's the whole world doesn't understand the logic

That's not Singaporean problem right?..🤭
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#44

(05-09-2024, 07:48 PM)moonrab Wrote:  That's not Singaporean problem right?..🤭

I m quite sure you don't know how to drive..
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#45

(07-09-2024, 12:57 AM)Scythian Wrote:  I m quite sure you don't know how to drive..

Being driving since 18..🤣
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#46

(05-09-2024, 06:57 AM)winbig Wrote:  I believe HDB owners still own their home. There are different set of rules and regulation for owning a public housing and private housing. Other than govt no one can ask u to get out of your HDB.

Housing Board flats, which are subsidised by the Govt, are community properties sold under lease agreements that contain an assortment of rights that fall short of full ownership. This legal void leaves residents of HDB units with a great deal of limitations over their rights. Public flat dwellers are likely to have their homes confiscated if they fail to comply with the restrictive terms and conditions. That is my point: private condo and landed property owners cannot be evicted from a residential property that they own.
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#47

(07-09-2024, 10:47 AM)moonrab Wrote:  Being driving since 18..🤣

Do you mean that you have been driving a car since you were 18 years of age, or that you have been driven around since you were 18 years old?
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#48

The Govt has a formidable task to convince more S'poreans to give up their cars. The enormous cost of buying and maintaining a private vehicle has only forced marginal car owners to give up driving. Judging by our congested roads, many motorists are still loathe to giving up their set of wheels for reasons that go beyond reliability and convenience. While it makes sense for the majority of the population in an urban setting to rely on public transportation, existing car owners are reluctant to part with something that has become an extension of themselves, and not merely a means of transportation.
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#49

(07-09-2024, 10:57 AM)EvertonDiehard Wrote:  Housing Board flats, which are subsidised by the Govt, are community properties sold under lease agreements that contain an assortment of rights that fall short of full ownership. This legal void leaves residents of HDB units with a great deal of limitations over their rights. Public flat dwellers are likely to have their homes confiscated if they fail to comply with the restrictive terms and conditions. That is my point: private condo and landed property owners cannot be evicted from a residential property that they own.

If one is a law abidding citizen and don't break and laws, HDB will not evict u.
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#50

(07-09-2024, 11:06 AM)winbig Wrote:  If one is a law abidding citizen and don't break and laws, HDB will not evict u.

Unlike owners of leasehold condos, HDB dwellers are not permitted to use even their fully paid-up flats as collateral to banks, to raise credit facilities for private loans. HDB also refers to flat owners as tenants, and those who rent from the owners as sub-tenants. The Housing Board still requires buyers of unsubsidised units - bought after 30 Aug 2010 on the open market and paid in full - to fulfil a minimum occupation period of 3 years before renting out their entire home. These raises serious questions about whether HDB residents truly own their flats. Since the Housing Board still refers to flat "owners" as tenants, surely the landlord can evict troublesome tenants. The definition of "troublesome" also rests with the HDB.
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#51

(07-09-2024, 11:34 AM)EvertonDiehard Wrote:  Unlike owners of leasehold condos, HDB dwellers are not permitted to use even their fully paid-up flats as collateral to banks, to raise credit facilities for private loans. HDB also refers to flat owners as tenants, and those who rent from the owners as sub-tenants. The Housing Board still requires buyers of unsubsidised units - bought after 30 Aug 2010 on the open market and paid in full - to fulfil a minimum occupation period of 3 years before renting out their entire home. These raises serious questions about whether HDB residents truly own their flats. Since the Housing Board still refers to flat "owners" as tenants, surely the landlord can evict troublesome tenants. The definition of "troublesome" also rest with the HDB.

One cannot use HDB as collateral to banks for a reason. So that no matter what happens one will still have a roof over their heads. HDB is never for one to get rich but a lot just want to try their luck
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#52

(07-09-2024, 10:59 AM)EvertonDiehard Wrote:  Do you mean that you have been driving a car since you were 18 years of age, or that you have been driven around since you were 18 years old?

I driven car since 18 years old la..
Driving car in my generation is sup sup shoi. 
The minute I passed the test, buying car was a natural part. Not a big deal le...🤭

But today I prefer public transport and cycling. 
Become healthier, cut down tummy and better blood test result🤣

Plus never need to fight for carpark lot in Shopping mall. Just Grab and driven around Singapore, easy peasy and cheap..🤣

Cycling and walking really improve one to be healthier than Driving. Mark my words. Even my doctor is surprised over my blood test healthy results.
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#53

(07-09-2024, 11:44 AM)winbig Wrote:  One cannot use HDB as collateral to banks for a reason. So that no matter what happens one will still have a roof over their heads. HDB is never for one to get rich but a lot just want to try their luck

After living in some bigger countries cities for a while.

One will realise Singapore city state HDB flat build for our citizens is a heavenly gift from our government. 

In this regard, all Singaporeans should express their utmost gratitude to our pioneer generation leaders for their intellectual prowess, foresight, and unwavering dedication to the betterment of our nation and its people.
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#54

(07-09-2024, 12:10 PM)moonrab Wrote:  I driven car since 18 years old la.. Driving car in my generation is sup sup shoi. The minute I passed the test, buying car was a natural part. Not a big deal le. But today I prefer public transport and cycling.  Become healthier, cut down tummy and better blood test result.

Patient: "I am here for my medical review. I just retired after working for 40 years."

Doctor: "You need to sell your car and take public transport. In fact, try to walk more. Please eat less meat and more vegetables. It is also better to eat less at hawker centres and restaurants. Have more meals at home. Try not to go out too often."
Patient: "My medical test results must be really bad. What exactly is wrong with me."
Doctor: "You no longer have an income."
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#55

(07-09-2024, 12:18 PM)moonrab Wrote:  After living in some bigger countries cities for a while.

One will realise Singapore city state HDB flat build for our citizens is a heavenly gift from our government. 

In this regard, all Singaporeans should express their utmost gratitude to our pioneer generation leaders for their intellectual prowess, foresight, and unwavering dedication to the betterment of our nation and its people.




But medical cost is a bomb

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#56

(02-09-2024, 01:03 PM)Scythian Wrote:  .
 a Common Singaporean is unable even to own 1/4 of a car

Malaysians are very fortunate

singapore car is LUXURY item like a diamond .................. in the sky

malaysia is a necessity item
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#57

(07-09-2024, 12:31 PM)grotesqueness Wrote:  singapore car is LUXURY item like a diamond .................. in the sky. malaysia is a necessity item

It is difficult to put a price on comfort and convenience. A car is a necessity to some people with young children, old parents or handicapped loved ones. It has become a luxury only because of the spiralling COE.
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#58

(07-09-2024, 01:19 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote:  It is difficult to put a price on comfort and convenience. A car is a necessity to some people with young children, old parents or handicapped loved ones. It has become a luxury only because of the spiralling COE.

HUH!..............

spiralling COE.............

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#59

(07-09-2024, 12:18 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote:  
Patient: "I am here for my medical review. I just retired after working for 40 years."

Doctor: "You need to sell your car and take public transport. In fact, try to walk more. Please eat less meat and more vegetables. It is also better to eat less at hawker centres and restaurants. Have more meals at home. Try not to go out too often."
Patient: "My medical test results must be really bad. What exactly is wrong with me."
Doctor: "You no longer have an income."

Well one must live within his means..😊
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#60

(07-09-2024, 12:23 PM)klat Wrote:  But medical cost is a bomb

Majority have Medishield, Medisave, Insurance, etc..
Most countries are the same.
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