[Sentinel]

Previously, all those pork siew and smog jokes about China in front of American obnoxious senate and its retarded congress

I think now is payback time for him to go China and crack similar jokes about America to soothe the Chinese's anger

If LHL does not think China is the future, then he better don't waste Xi's time to go China

Xi has no time for just congratulatory handshakes, plenty of countries queuing up to shake Xi's hand

Can't be this LHL is so blind until he cannot see that his call to sanction Russia is slapping China's face, as both Putin and Xi had said: No limits relationship between the two and a momentous thing to happen not seen in a 100 years

So, LHL better wake up, or it will be very tough for all Sinkies now and in the future

He can't just think of himself, his family and his cronies

He better not

[WhatDoYouThink!]

It's a joke in bad taste, especially to amuse the westerners

[Blasterlord2]

I think he has realised his mistake. But well, let's see his next move. Action speaks louder than words.

[RichDad]

Maybe he kena F by sleepy joe. Now woke up.

[Dan]

He tried very hard to make China look bad in US now going there to apologize secretly

[WhatDoYouThink!]

Hope he won't ask xjp 你一个月的薪水有几多钱？

[Sentinel]

So many mistakes he made on China

Commenting on SCS is the worstest of the worst

When in an ASEAN summit, none voted for the motion to censure China, so embarrassing for LHL

And then Pinoyland made a visit to China and begged for money and censured America, calling them bastards

Vietnam also did not do much as it is also building islands and Laos and Cambodia and Myanmar also kept quiet, besides Malaysia kept quiet even though SCS affects it more, neither did Brunei

Indonesia kept quiet because SCS it has no stake, yet ikan bilis Sinkiepoor made so much noise when like Indonesia, we have no stake to SCS

As you all know, the countries that should raise a ruckus is actually SK, Japan, Taiwan and Russia, as China's 9-mile can block any ships going up north, yet Russia, SK, Taiwan and Japan also no sound no thunder when blockade of SCS will affect them drastically

Liddat the political landscape, yet Vivi still dare to talk about rule of law?

I sinscerely hope our leeders wake up their idea and not lead Sinkiepoor into an isolation by antagonizing China over a sea that we have zero stake in

Even Australia depends on China for its GDP and is just wayang to USA only, it is a toothless kangaroo

Sinkiepoor is in a precarious state if every other country isolate us and leave us to rot, what can we do? Don't expect us to cry like LKY, because he is lucky in his time, and granted LKY has foresight

None of our leeders has any shred of foresight at all

So, better to know your place in the region

Be diplomatic, be friendly, act dumb, dun show off

Sinkiepoor is highly dependent on peace in the region, so stop rocking the boat

[Scythian]

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Last night nightmare

[aiptasia]

LHL's dumb jokes about China was done in a frutiless attempt to draw him closer to the US administration. Only the blur sotongs like him would think the US would give more than two hoots about a tiny red dot called Singapore.

The Xi administration has thrown him a second chance lifeline now and he better not fug up with his diplomatic antics otherwise Singapore will be in a very bad position.

[Scythian]

He tried very hard to make China look bad in US now going there to apologize secretly

Try pork soup from the tap

[Scythian]

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Late LKY left 3 envelopes behind for HL to open whenever he encounters problem. 
The first 2 stated, Go US.

Now, he opened the 3rd envelope, it stated, Go China.

[Dan]

Singapore foreign minister stresses rule of law in South China Sea



Singaporean Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan called for enhanced cooperation between Southeast Asian states and Japan to maintain the rule of law at sea amid China’s rising assertiveness in the South China Sea.
“Japan and other regional stakeholders need to work together with ASEAN to advance regional peace, stability and prosperity and to uphold and protect rules-based regional and international orders,” Balakrishnan said Tuesday in a speech in Tokyo, referring to the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations, of which Singapore is a member.
Japan and Singapore are non-claimant countries in the territorial disputes involving China in the South China Sea.

[[[ForeverAlone]]]

SG Investment a lot Flop in India, tag with India.

On FB , got one CECA not happy with my comment.


LHL must be realise pro India is getting himself owned.

He literally try to be smart BUT is not smart like his dad LKY.

LKY already mention India is Messy with its own history of internal conflicts.

He also mention way long ago year back claim China will be A Supernation just like USA and He is right after years you see How China evolve up.

This is why LKY always having good ties with USA and China , it will NEVER Go wrong even towards the next 50 years or so.

[WhatDoYouThink!]

Quite gabra when seeing so many world leaders lining up to visit china and meet up with xjp

[Dan]

China asks Singapore to "respect" its position on South China Sea ruling

BEIJING - The Chinese government has asked Singapore to "respect" China's position on the outcome of a recent ruling by an international tribunal and the consensus it has reached with Asean.
In a statement on Friday (Aug 5), the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson Hua Chunying said China had made its position on the issue "very clearly".

"The related ruling is illegal, invalid and has no binding force," she said.

"China hopes that Singapore...can maintain an objective and fair position as the coordinator of China and Asean dialogue relations, so as to advance Sino-Singapore relations and healthy and stable China-Asean ties."

Ms Hua was responding to queries from Chinese media regarding Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's comments at a reception hosted by the United States Chamber of Commerce and US-Asean Business Council in Washington on Tuesday, Singapore time. The Chinese media had reported PM Lee's comments.
PM Lee had said that he did not think China has changed its policy on its claims in the South China Sea after the ruling on July 12 by an international tribunal.
He said very few countries would "walk back" from the positions that they have taken to say "well, it's not quite so absolute and it wasn't so clearly mine after all".
But PM Lee said he did not think that any of the claimants , which include China, the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan, would want to "push it to the brink."

"They have interests, they have claims, they would want to maintain them, but nobody wants to go to war," he had told US officials and business leaders.

A recent international tribunal has ruled that China's claims to a number of reefs and features in the Spratly island chain in the South China Sea has no legal basis, in a case brought by the Philippines.
The 10-member Asean put out a joint communique that referred to maritime disputes after a meeting of its foreign ministers in Vientiane, Laos last month.
The communique did not specifically mention the tribunal's ruling. But it stated, in its second paragraph, that the ministers reaffirm their commitment to maintaining regional peace and stability "as well as to the peaceful resolution of disputes, including full respect for legal and diplomatic processes... in accordance with the universally recognised principles of international law, including the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS)". The tribunal was held under the auspices of Unclos.
Ms Hua on Friday said Asean had also clearly stated its position saying that it, as a collective entity, did not hold a position on the tribunal ruling in the recently concluded Asean foreign minister's meeting.
The ministers' joint communique, however, did not state explicitly that Asean did not hold a position on the ruling.
Asean and China had separately in Vientiane issued a joint statement on the "full and effective" implementation of the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea signed in 2002.

kohping@sph.com.sg

[CHAOS]

Unfortunately many arrogant Banana and non Chinese still insisting that all Chinese must speak and understand English before enter SG

[cityhantam]

Unfortunately still many arrogant Banana and non Chinese still insisting that all Chinese must speak and understand English before enter SG

And that includes Ah Singh, the opposition leader!

[Dan]

Xi’s call to Singapore: a subtle ‘reminder’ about the South China Sea

The Chinese leader congratulates Singapore’s Lee Hsien Loong on winning re-election,
vows to ‘overcome distractions’ to safeguard regional stability

To some experts it seemed a routine post-election call, to others a warning against siding with the United States

Dewey Sim in Singapore
Published: 7:30pm, 15 Jul, 2020

[KILLjoy]

hopefully xi treats him drink pork soup
best live on tv

[aiptasia]

SG Investment a lot Flop in India, tag with India.

On FB , got one CECA not happy with my comment.


LHL must be realise pro India is getting himself owned.

He literally try to be smart BUT is not smart like his dad LKY.

LKY already mention India is Messy with its own history of internal conflicts.

He also mention way long ago year back claim China will be A Supernation just like USA and  He is right after years you see How China evolve up.

This is why LKY always having good ties with USA and China , it will NEVER Go wrong even towards the next 50 years or so.

Which FB page is it?

[RiseofAsia]

I think he has realised his mistake. But well, let's see his next move. Action speaks louder than words.

Probably no red Capet when he visited him recently.
Unlike Obama.

[Manthink]

He tried very hard to make China look bad in US now going there to apologize secretly

LHL is forced to accept the World is moving on very quickly...away from Pax-Americana...

...and he said this on last NDP Rally....

[maxsanic]

Previously, all those pork siew and smog jokes about China in front of American obnoxious senate and its retarded congress

I think now is payback time for him to go China and crack similar jokes about America to soothe the Chinese's anger

If LHL does not think China is the future, then he better don't waste Xi's time to go China

Xi has no time for just congratulatory handshakes, plenty of countries queuing up to shake Xi's hand

Can't be this LHL is so blind until he cannot see that his call to sanction Russia is slapping China's face, as both Putin and Xi had said: No limits relationship between the two and a momentous thing to happen not seen in a 100 years

So, LHL better wake up, or it will be very tough for all Sinkies now and in the future

He can't just think of himself, his family and his cronies

He better not

Naturally the truth of such a personal question can only be answered by PM Lee himself, but if we look at the timeline of events I would venture a guess roughly as follows:

Up to 2015 - LKY has always been a proponent of pulling in the US to participate in the affairs of East Asia and one would assume that LHL is more or less aligned with his father all the way until his death in 2015. I suspect the basic premise of this policy is the assumption it would take at least 30 - 50 years for the China to fully challenge the US world order and during this time it would be in Singapore's interest to get US influence in and then leverage on our longstanding relationship with US to be a de facto adviser / opinion leader in ASEAN to "defend" against China.

2016 August - US-SG relationship reached its pinnacle in 2016 which cumulated in a state banquet thrown for LHL by Obama in 2016. This is most likely also roughly the time in which US reached an agreement with Singapore in which the latter would attempt to rally ASEAN to the US camp to take on China using the South China sea dispute as a gateway. 2016 can also be described as the year in which CN-SG relations plunged rapidly in contrast to US-SG which was at its peak. The most obvious indication was LHL using the August 2016 NDP rally to make an aggressive point over SCS claiming that ASEAN must unite together to demand that China respect "international laws".

2016 November - The Terex incident marked the first instance in which China publicly rebuked Singapore on the pretext of its continued military relationship with Taiwan while still officially claiming to remain true to the "one China" policy. I believe this might also be the start when LHL and certain pro-US quarters within the ruling SG elite started to realize the seriousness of the situation.

2017 - By 2017 it was clear to Singapore that other than Vietnam and Philippines, all the remaining 7 ASEAN countries including other SCS claimants such as Indonesia, Malaysia and Brunei had no intention to follow the Singapore led initiative to join US against China. Whether it is by personal choice to remain neutral or through pressures asserted by the Chinese,  it would be very obvious by now that LHL had severely underestimated China's influence in ASEAN and overestimated US's and his own influence in ASEAN matters.

2018 - By then Duterte has already helmed Philippines for more than a year and it was plain obvious that his proclamations to abandon the SCS arbitration ruling to pursue closer CN-PH ties were true. Vietnam sensing that this was a lost cause immediately did a 180 degree turn and cozied up with China and acted like there were never any territory disputes in the first place. By this time US-SG relationship has also taken a beating with Trump as president and he did not seem to be friendly to SG either. Thus 2018 marks the year in which Singapore stands isolated, neglected by the US and betrayed by PH / VN, standing alone facing the angry panda over an issue that didn't even have anything to do with SG in the first place. 

2019 - I believe this is the year in which CN-SG relations reached turning point and LHL more or less gave up on his previous geopolitical policy. The SCS dispute was abandoned by LHL and SG started to reposition itself as a valuable coordinator to reach a CN-ASEAN SCS code of conduct. However, it is also noteworthy that there remains a sizable number of ruling elites who seem adamant that not all is lost and their chief argument is along the lines that this setback is temporary and will be fixed once Trump leaves office.

2020 - Singapore duly made use of the celebrations for 30th anniversary of CN-SG diplomatic relations to constantly reaffirm our close ties with China. By this time, Singapore is constantly arguing against the global trend in protectionism and is more or less completely aligned with China against the US Trump administration in economic matters. 

2020 (Nov) - Biden won the election and many of the pro-US elites and intellectuals in Singapore started to fantasize that Biden would fix all of Trump's ills and everything would be well again. LHL released a test balloon to get a sense of how things are by sending a congratulatory message to Biden emphasizing that there are many "friends" in East Asia in need of US leadership and invited US to "stay engaged" in Asia Pacific.

2021 - Unfortunately for the pro-US people, Biden turned out to be no different from Trump. Although he was rhetorically less aggressive than Trump, he more or less continued most of Trump's protectionist policies. By this time China's integration with ASEAN was already far greater than it was in 2016 and US presence here has been severely diminished under Trump. Yet Biden showed no real interest to re-engage beyond perfunctory talk talk. This probably extinguished any last hopes of return to the past for LHL and he went full throttle in his pivot towards China in reality while maintaining neutrality as an official national foreign policy. Interestingly for whatever speculated reason, Singapore was not invited to the Democracy Summit hosted by the US.

2022 - 2023 March - What's there to say? LHL aggressively urged his counterparts in US, Australia and Europe to respect China and recognize that she has an important role to play in world affairs. I think it is also fair to say now that most of the ruling elite in our government has woken up their idea and other than a few inconsequential die hards have reached the conclusion that US is the past and China is the future. Our policy is now very clear, maintain official neutrality, de facto pivot to China, re-stablish our standing in ASEAN as the lead coordinator for CN-ASEAN relations and squeeze out whatever that is left of the US influence to put us in a better position when negotiating with China.

As of now LHL is in China for a relatively long visit and those who are interested can go watch his interview with CGTN yesterday. If you don't watch the interview and the name, his answers can just as easily pass for any other pro-China ASEAN leader; definitely a complete U-turn compared to what he said in 2016.

[Soulhacker]

Actually our higher mortals since laulee era ish more pro-CCP than pro-US, laulee even naively proclaimed before that CCP will never become a threat to the region let alone the world.

So Laulee and Pinky only want to use US as their bodyguards and arm supplier nia to scare off boleh land but economy and diplomacy wise have always been on CCP side to focus on earning RMB. That why don't be surprised hao much of our GLC $$$ are nao tied up in AT land already rather than US.

In reality, our higher mortals never like US, and never really on US side one. That why ish very worrying nao as they are already on the wrong side.

[Sentinel]

You forgot to mention TPP, in 2015/16, which Sinkiepoor leeders pushed very hard for it to happen and even when USA Trump for some unknown reason (maybe it has to do with Obama or likely Trump was going to close America's door to the rest of the world), USA walk off from the pact and LHL attempted to kick a dead horse back to life, knowing that such an agmt is detrimental to Sinkie companies but beneficial to USA, and that China was deliberately left out by Obama, to isolate China from this multi-lateral trade agmt....LHL is either a blur sotong or a damned stubborn myopic statesman lacking any shred of foresight, except his own family's and cronies balance sheet

[Manthink]

2017 - LHL was not on the invitation list to attend the 1st BRI Forum in Beijing.

Yes, that was so shocking that many were asking what WTF HAPPENED ?!

https://mothership.sg/2017/05/pm-lee-not...n-trouble/

[Scythian]

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All Asean members pretending to like him and they ve chosen the right side, leaving him alone on the wrong side.

So, going there just to say very sorry.

[Manthink]

Actually our higher mortals since laulee era ish more pro-CCP than pro-US, laulee even naively proclaimed before that CCP will never become a threat to the region let alone the world.So Laulee and Pinky only want to use US as their bodyguards and arm supplier nia to scare off boleh land but economy and diplomacy wise have always been on CCP side to focus on earning RMB. That why don't be surprised hao much of our GLC $$$ are nao tied up in AT land already rather than US.In reality, our higher mortals never like US, and never really on US side one. That why ish very worrying nao as they are already on the wrong side.

Small countries will always at the mercy of geopolitics game play.  LKY knew this given the challenging env we were in in the 60s and 70s from Konfrontasi to Indochina wars.

There were many shocks SG Gov had to quickly adapt to when US failed....from withdrawal from Vietnam war to closure of 2 major US bases in the Philippines.

All these time, LKY was fortunate to build personal relation with DengXP that ensure SG's engagement with post-Mao era PRC... That also bought us a very SPECIAL exception that no countries enjoy - the continue deployment of SAF in Taiwan Island under the Ex-Starlight.

That era, IMO, will only last as long as TW issue do not escalate...which is beyond SG's control.

That is why we are quietly drawing down exercises on that Island...

[cityhantam]

Small countries will always at the mercy of geopolitics game play.  

Actually, in this world today, only 3 nations are truly completely sovereign and independent : USA, China and Russia!

[Scythian]

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Maybe Submitting application to join BRICS