(29-10-2023, 11:01 AM)Simplemen Wrote: [ -> ]You probably dont know that in 2017, Hamas softened its stance and was prepared to accept Israel's existence based on the 1967 borders
Of course Israel rejected it. I know that you know what the reason is but you cant say it.
You know the Terms & Conditions set by Hamas?
Hamas is willing to accept the borders set in 1967
BUT does NOT want to recognize Israel nor any ceding rights
(29-10-2023, 08:06 AM)Gstalk Wrote: [ -> ]Gaza still not flattened yet. The casualty is still far below 70K.
Still a long way to go.
If you look at other parts and sceneries of Gaza, and using Singapore as compare
It’s like Woodlands and Yishun being bombarbed every day
People still take mrt to Shenton Way to work
Lim Chu Kang still got vegetable gardens
Botanic Gardens flowers still booming
Today 15th lunar day, people go temple pray
(29-10-2023, 11:09 AM)Ola Wrote: [ -> ]You know the Terms & Conditions set by Hamas?
Hamas is willing to accept the borders set in 1967
BUT does NOT want to recognize Israel nor any ceding rights
Alamak you dont even know that when Hamas agree to accept Israel based on 1967 borders also means Hamas is ready to recognise the State of Israel?
Hamas demands to return to 1967 borders is in fact a huge compromise to UN Resolution 194 which Israel also refused to comply
Israel wants all of Palestine, and thats why it rejected the 2 States Solution which is also another UN Resolution whi Israel refused to comply
(29-10-2023, 11:17 AM)Simplemen Wrote: [ -> ]Alamak you dont even know that when Hamas agree to accept Israel based on 1967 borders also means Hamas is ready to recognise the State of Israel?
Hamas demands to return to 1967 borders is in fact a huge compromise to UN Resolution 194 which Israel also refused to comply
Israel wants all of Palestine, and thats why it rejected the 2 States Solution which is also another UN Resolution whi Israel refused to comply
WHY Isreal rejected Hamas offer that has strings tied to it
because Hamas not recognizing Israel nor any ceding rights
means that the borders is meaningless
(29-10-2023, 11:01 AM)Simplemen Wrote: [ -> ]You probably dont know that in 2017, Hamas softened its stance and was prepared to accept Israel's existence based on the 1967 borders
Of course Israel rejected it. I know that you know what the reason is but you cant say it.
Haha….. that’s always the problem as well
That people like you only read history books written by the ayatollahs
In 1947, the British who were the masters of the land proposed half the land to Israel, half to Palestine
UN voted and approved of it
But the Palestine rejected it, they wanted all
And the proposal was revised and negotiations went on for months
But Palestine kept on delaying it and refused to accept anything other than total control
Fed up , Israel declared unilateral independence the following year
Palestine with the help of 6 Arab countries invaded and attacked Israel
Israel which did not have a proper army then was able to defeat all of them
Why?
Because they were fighting for survival
They know that DEFEAT MEANS EXTERMINATION AND EXTINCTION
(29-10-2023, 11:25 AM)Bluebull Wrote: [ -> ]Haha….. that’s always the problem as well
That people like you only read history books written by the ayatollahs
In 1947, the British who were the masters of the land proposed half the land to Israel, half to Palestine
UN voted and approved of it
But the Palestine rejected it, they wanted all
And the proposal was revised and negotiations went on for months
But Palestine kept on delaying it and refused to accept anything other than total control
Fed up , Israel declared unilateral independence the following year
Palestine with the help of 6 Arab countries invaded and attacked Israel
Israel which did not have a proper army then was able to defeat all of them
Why?
Because they were fighting for survival
They know that DEFEAT MEANS EXTERMINATION AND EXTINCTION
Where did the Brits come from?
(29-10-2023, 11:24 AM)Ola Wrote: [ -> ]WHY Isreal rejected Hamas offer that has strings tied to it
because Hamas not recognizing Israel nor any ceding rights
means that the borders is meaningless
Well, Israel wants to have its cake and eat it too
Isreal wants peace & security while not making some compromises to Palestinians from whom it stole their land
Israel wants ALL of Palestinian land.
And that's why it is ethnically cleansing the Palestinians out of Gaza into Egypt.
(29-10-2023, 11:35 AM)Simplemen Wrote: [ -> ]Well, Israel wants to have its cake and eat it too
Isreal wants peace & security while not making some compromises to Palestinians from whom it stole their land
Israel wants ALL of Palestinian land.
And that's why it is ethnically cleansing the Palestinians out of Gaza into Egypt.
Hamas never sincerely wanted to accept the borders that is why
they stated the terms not recognize Israel nor any ceding rights
Hamas wanted WAR and not peace
that is why they attacked Isreal suddenly on 7 Oct 2023 and celebrated the event
(29-10-2023, 12:55 PM)Ola Wrote: [ -> ]Hamas never sincerely wanted to accept the borders that is why
they stated the terms not recognize Israel nor any ceding rights
Hamas wanted WAR and not peace
that is why they attacked Isreal suddenly on 7 Oct 2023 and celebrated the event
They celebrate becuz it was a major victory for quite a while. Israel in return cannot whack them whack the civilian to compensate for Israeli lost civilian lives. And it is quite successful for every Israeli civilian life lost they have I think 10 Palestine civilian to 陪葬 so the Israel dead got company not lonely.
(29-10-2023, 12:55 PM)Ola Wrote: [ -> ]Hamas never sincerely wanted to accept the borders that is why
they stated the terms not recognize Israel nor any ceding rights
Hamas wanted WAR and not peace
that is why they attacked Isreal suddenly on 7 Oct 2023 and celebrated the event
They were willing to accept Israel based on 1967 borders. That is recognition.
They attacked Israel because Israel is stealing & occupying Palestinian lands. Under International Law they have the right to resist.
Lets not pretend as if the attack heppened all of a sudden for no reason.
(29-10-2023, 01:18 PM)Simplemen Wrote: [ -> ]They were willing to accept Israel based on 1967 borders. That is recognition.
They attacked Israel because Israel is stealing & occupying Palestinian lands. Under International Law they have the right to resist.
Lets not pretend as if the attack heppened all of a sudden for no reason.
In your own terms and thoughts, you are saying you agree with Hamas
to want the Apple but do not want the core and the seeds
you agree to accept the mother but throw away the feotus
Hamas has the right to wage war but at the expense of their own civilians
Is this how you agree to their brutality and savagery?
(29-10-2023, 01:31 PM)Ola Wrote: [ -> ]In your own terms and thoughts, you are saying you agree with Hamas
to want the Apple but do not want the core and the seeds
you agree to accept the mother but throw away the feotus
Hamas has the right to wage war but at the expense of their own civilians
Is this how you agree to their brutality and savagery?
Their brutality and savagery has been matched and even surpassed by Israeli in their counter back isn't it? They kill much more than Hamas so isn't that winning for Israeli?
(29-10-2023, 11:31 AM)Simplemen Wrote: [ -> ]Where did the Brits come from?
Alamsk, you’r reslly Simpleton
Go read the real history books la
What happen to the Ottoman Turks who were ruling Palestine
Read what happened AFTER WW2 and how the British came to annex the Land they called Palestine and rule it
And read how it was the Israrli who tried to get rid of the British, not the Àrabs
Gosh, really Simpleton!