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Ukrainian general could replace Zelensky in the coming election…Ukraine may give up eastern Ukraine and Crimea to Russia, in return Russia may allow Ukraine join NATO
this is BS, as long US says no ..we got another 18yrs to go
(05-12-2023, 11:36 PM)BigNLong Wrote: [ -> ]this is BS, as long US says no ..we got another 18yrs to go

To continue fighting Ukraine needs funding, endless weapons & ammunitions and soldiers. Currently the U.S. is unable to provide more funding, Europeans are unable to supply amount of ammunition Ukraine requires and worse still lack of the soldiers due to heavy casualties, all these make it harder to carry on with the war unless NATO sends in troops to fight against Russians directly.

Latest news says Putin is going to recruit 140,000 more soldiers to make the total number of Russian troops to 1.2 million in Ukraine
Ukraine join NATO is pipe dream.
Most likely the Ukrainian generals saw that this war is no longer worth fighting as death toll has reached astronomical numbers and the country is in complete ruin. It is only Zelensky who wants to continue for his personal gain and a puppet of the US. 
If the secret peace meeting is true, then there is a high chance the Ukraine Army will coup and execute Zelensky once the deal is made with Russia.  This kind of defection happened in china when many KMT army divisions defected to the CCP camp. If that Generalsimo Chang KS did not fled to Taiwan, I believe the KMT army will hang him once they defected to the CCP side.     Big Grin
Those Russians at RT LAUGHS
THEY KNOW THERE ARE INFIGHTINGS.
Secret and it is posted here ..... .... .. .
(05-12-2023, 11:26 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: [ -> ]Ukrainian general could replace Zelensky in the coming election…Ukraine may give up eastern Ukraine and Crimea to Russia, in return Russia may allow Ukraine join NATO
Baba Vanga Predictions for 2024. Tongue
https://youtu.be/h5CadiWslO0?si=0I1aP3bA9ZimrdjQ
(05-12-2023, 11:36 PM)BigNLong Wrote: [ -> ]this is BS, as long US says no ..we got another 18yrs to go

The India Indian boy boy said. SG will have many more years S$🤑🤑🤑 continue coming even if WW3 come 2029- 2032... Tongue
https://youtu.be/6e_8saeGHQc?si=CBQEaYANPqqx9YEn
(06-12-2023, 09:11 AM)Tee tiong huat Wrote: [ -> ]Baba Vanga Predictions for 2024. Tongue
https://youtu.be/h5CadiWslO0?si=0I1aP3bA9ZimrdjQ
She prediction Trump to win next year - 2024 to be the U.S. Presidential... Big Grin
https://youtu.be/Ab16j3b4P2I?si=acoqM9NHHgJpZHeB
(06-12-2023, 03:40 AM)Huliwang Wrote: [ -> ]Most likely the Ukrainian generals saw that this war is no longer worth fighting as death toll has reached astronomical numbers and the country is in complete ruin. It is only Zelensky who wants to continue for his personal gain and a puppet of the US. 
If the secret peace meeting is true, then there is a high chance the Ukraine Army will coup and execute Zelensky once the deal is made with Russia.  This kind of defection happened in china when many KMT army divisions defected to the CCP camp. If that Generalsimo Chang KS did not fled to Taiwan, I believe the KMT army will hang him once they defected to the CCP side.     Big Grin

Also, Zelensky is not getting any more weapon from EU and US.  


For Biden, Israel is top priority and Ukraine is secondary since start of Mid East war a month ago.  

EU stopped supplying money and weapon as Ukraine is a bottomless pit. How much can they fill the pit? Uktraine war brought hardship for EU as energy cost all shot up.   

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(06-12-2023, 10:02 AM)Tee tiong huat Wrote: [ -> ]She prediction Trump to win next year - 2024 to be the U.S. Presidential... Big Grin
https://youtu.be/Ab16j3b4P2I?si=acoqM9NHHgJpZHeB

No need rocket scientist to tell that, it is triple confirmed.
(06-12-2023, 03:00 PM)webinarian Wrote: [ -> ]
Also, Zelensky is not getting any more weapon from EU and US.  


For Biden, Israel is top priority and Ukraine is secondary since start of Mid East war a month ago.  

EU stopped supplying money and weapon as Ukraine is a bottomless pit. How much can they fill the pit? Uktraine war brought hardship for EU as energy cost all shot up.   

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The war can’t continue when funding, weapons and soldiers are all stopped
(06-12-2023, 03:04 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: [ -> ]The war can’t continue when funding, weapons and soldiers are all stopped

https://news.antiwar.com/2023/11/29/inte...-zaluzhny/

The Economist report reads: “The figures, which date from mid-November, show trust in the president has fallen to a net +32%, less than half that of the still revered General Mr Zaluzhny (+70%). Ukraine’s spychief, Kyrylo Budanov, also has better ratings than the president (+45%).”

If there is election, he may be only third.
(07-12-2023, 07:22 AM)watchfirst9 Wrote: [ -> ]https://news.antiwar.com/2023/11/29/inte...-zaluzhny/

The Economist report reads: “The figures, which date from mid-November, show trust in the president has fallen to a net +32%, less than half that of the still revered General Mr Zaluzhny (+70%). Ukraine’s spychief, Kyrylo Budanov, also has better ratings than the president (+45%).”

If there is election, he may be only third.

No wonder Zelensky failed to turn up for an important meeting with the U.S. two days ago saying he was too busy with wars…looks like he is in trouble and military general is having secret negotiation with Russia without his permission.
last time got west germany and east germany

now coming is west ukraine and east ukraine
Zelensky sure kena pull down I quite confirm. His decision send so many Ukrainian men to die needlessly. His refusal to engage any peace talk unless his own demands are met are key to his downfall. We await to see his fate. Time to draw a curtain on Ukraine and re-focus on MiddleEast are US and other Western nations main concern now.
Today day 651 since start of Russia’s so-called “special military operation” on Feb. 24, 2022.
The Kremlin thought it would capture Ukraine’s capital in day or few days.

Yet still stands free. This day 3,577. Moscow began attacks on Ukraine, Feb. 20, 2014, when this mad mad Putin and his military began seizing Ukrainian territory, it also illegally to annex Crimean Peninsula too.x

Every year on Dec. 6, Ukrainians celebrate the Day of the AFU, which was established as a holiday in 1993 by the Verkhovna Rada (Ukraine’s national parliament). This holiday honors Ukrainian soldiers, its sons and daughters, for true courage, dedication and heroism, with great pride and respect. The holiday celebrates its service members defending Ukraine today and remembers the fallen who have given their all.

Hope!. Peace came about is year 2027. Happywide
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25076
(06-12-2023, 03:00 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: [ -> ]No need rocket scientist to tell that, it is triple confirmed.
On Trump...04:20 sec, & B'4 is a big Thinking eeerh on earthquake news? crying for year 2024.
https://youtu.be/h5CadiWslO0?si=fy0yPCCBO5sZgeZq