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that is the reason why Israel wants to go ahead and attack Iranian nuclear facilities because they have nothing to lose as Iran cant do anything to them.

yesterday night Hezbollah send in drones to attack Israel.


one side is high tech the other side is low tech.

the drones are easily detected by counter drone iron dome system...they are picked off the sky like flies.

they are down to drones, rockets and acts of terrorism.

all these Israel is quite ready for.

Iran has no fighter that can survive israel's air defense.  so they actually have nothing they can attack Israel with.

given the distance and Israel bufferred by Iraq ...there is no way to have a ground war.

Iran can only order Hezbollah to do rocket and drone attacks.

if there is any thing more that would have already used it given how much they hate Israel.

So how is Iran going to attack Israel is any meaningful way?


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(13-04-2024, 08:17 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]that is the reason why Israel wants to go ahead and attack Iranian nuclear facilities because they have nothing to lose as Iran cant do anything to them.

yesterday night Hezbollah send in drones to attack Israel.


one side is high tech the other side is low tech.

the drones are easily detected by counter drone iron dome system...they are picked off the sky like flies.

they are down to drones, rockets and acts of terrorism.

all these Israel is quite ready for.

Iran has no fighter that can survive israel's air defense.  so they actually have nothing they can attack Israel with.

given the distance and Israel bufferred by Iraq ...there is no way to have a ground war.

Iran can only order Hezbollah to do rocket and drone attacks.

if there is any thing more that would have already used it given how much they hate Israel.

So how is Iran going to attack Israel is any meaningful way?


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I know u r reverse indicator but........

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_...elicopters.
  
Stupid thread. No way for Iran to attack Israel?    

Houthis cannot arh? Hezbollah cannot arh? Cannot attack Israel embassies, tit for tat, arh?      

Just block off Red Sea, Israel died standing.   

Don't know don't act like know-all lah.   

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(13-04-2024, 09:03 AM)webinarian Wrote: [ -> ]   
Stupid thread. No way for Iran to attack Israel?    

Houthis cannot arh? Hezbollah cannot arh? Cannot attack Israel embassies, tit for tat, arh?      

Just block off Red Sea, Israel died standing.   

Don't know don't act like know-all lah.   

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So all the Hs...Houthis, Hanas, Hezbollah...these are not Iranians but proxies and they conducted their attacks already....all limited impact

So how Iran going to attack in a MEANINGFUL way?....
(13-04-2024, 08:51 AM)winbig Wrote: [ -> ]I know u r reverse indicator but........

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_...elicopters.

Plse fly the whole airforce over Israel and see what happens.
IRAN's GDP was growing in line with Saudis before 2010.  Now look at them.  No much better than the war torned IRAQ.  What's wrong with them?  Everyday wanting to fight here and there must be one of the reasons.


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Wealth inequality. No wonder IRAN wants to fight and fight for nothing. This is despite they have oil produced.

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(13-04-2024, 09:37 AM)teaserteam Wrote: [ -> ]IRAN's GDP was growing in line with Saudis before 2010.  Now look at them.  No much better than the war torned IRAQ.  What's wrong with them?  Everyday wanting to fight here and there must be one of the reasons.


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Have you heard of the economic sanction placed on Iran by the Western powers?

Isn't that the reason why their economy is taking a beating?
(13-04-2024, 09:53 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Have you heard of the economic sanction placed on Iran by the Western powers?

Isn't that the reason why their economy is taking a beating?

Yea. Because Iran refuse to give up its nuclear weapon ambition an swear to have wars with Israel. While I am no fan if Israel, making Iran stronger economically will destabilise the region as Iran will use the money for weapons
Stupid thread says "No serious way for Iran to successfully attack Israel".

Then, next line says "Iran can only order Hezbollah to do rocket and drone attacks".

Rocket and drone attack "Not Serious", is it?   

Ownself slaps ownself lah, stupid.   

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(13-04-2024, 09:53 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Have you heard of the economic sanction placed on Iran by the Western powers?

Isn't that the reason why their economy is taking a beating?

You know that is just an excuse. Russia and many other countries also have also been sanctioned by the US.
(13-04-2024, 09:53 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Have you heard of the economic sanction placed on Iran by the Western powers?

Isn't that the reason why their economy is taking a beating?

You know that is just an excuse.  Russia and many other countries have also been sanctioned by the US.  China was partly sanctioned in a way but they are sitting idle. The US is not invincible.
(13-04-2024, 09:28 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]So all the Hs...Houthis, Hanas, Hezbollah...these are not Iranians but proxies and they conducted their attacks already....all limited impact

So how Iran going to attack in a MEANINGFUL way?....
    
So, Houthis and Hezbollah attack Israel, isn't Israel got hit the same?   Must Iran launch an attack, then, it is an attack?    


Chinese Sunzi war strategy taught "Win a war without using any soldier is a smart strategy"   

You not educated, don't have wisdom, lah.  

Rotfl Rotfl Rotfl    Laughing Laughing Laughing
 
Even Biden also knows a little Sunzi War Strategy. He used Ukraine to fight with Russia.    

Only China is wise enough not to be dragged to an unnecessary war so far. If China entered, US finished.   

SgButt, spend some money to learn from school lah, uneducated poor thing.   
(13-04-2024, 09:28 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]Plse fly the whole airforce over Israel and see what happens.

Aircraft can strike from a distance leh. No need to fly deep inside enemy territory. Also aircraft can also fly at height where air defense cannot hit them. No?
(13-04-2024, 09:50 AM)teaserteam Wrote: [ -> ]Wealth inequality. No wonder IRAN wants to fight and fight for nothing.  This is despite they have oil produced.

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Since Israel is so wealthy, why they need so much funding from US huh?
  
Stupid SgButt.  

When you bomb a nation, you destroy the place and make their enemy suffer economic loss in rebuilding.  

When Red Sea is blocked, Israel suffered economic loss, Israelis now staging demonstration to demand Nathanyahu to step down as economy crashes.  

The purpose is achieved.  

Do you know how to win a war without human loss of lives and loss of economy which is the ultimate objective.  

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(13-04-2024, 10:07 AM)teaserteam Wrote: [ -> ]You know that is just an excuse.  Russia and many other countries have also been sanctioned by the US.  China was partly sanctioned in a way but they are sitting idle. The US is not invincible.

They all know what has happened and why but pretend not to know or talk about it. They need to wake up from “drowning” themselves in the “pool of hatre. “
(13-04-2024, 10:43 AM)Bw2023 Wrote: [ -> ]Israel cannot attack Iran

But it can pull in the US to attack Iran

However Iran may quietly welcome such attack. It gives Iran the global green light it needs to develop deterrent nuclear weapons.

Israel wants to be the sole nuclear power in the middle east.

Ironically, Israel trying to preempt Iranian nuclear weapons gives Iran the very excuse it needs to develop them.

Israel may wake up to no longer being the only nuclear kid on the block.

Once Iran becomes nuclear, all Arab nations fall under Iranian protective nuclear umbrella.

US does not want this

That is what you think will happen. O hope there will b peace. There will b no war unless the parties want to go to war.
History will judge eventually.
(13-04-2024, 10:43 AM)Bw2023 Wrote: [ -> ]Israel cannot attack Iran

But it can pull in the US to attack Iran

However Iran may quietly welcome such attack. It gives Iran the global green light it needs to develop deterrent nuclear weapons.

Israel wants to be the sole nuclear power in the middle east.

Ironically, Israel trying to preempt Iranian nuclear weapons gives Iran the very excuse it needs to develop them.

Israel may wake up to no longer being the only nuclear kid on the block.

Once Iran becomes nuclear, all Arab nations fall under Iranian protective nuclear umbrella.

US does not want this

Israel wants to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities and set them back each time. Iran wants nuclear weapon it does not care about what nonsense green light and all that shit.

Since when Iran cared.

The risk of Iran having a nuclear weapon and constantly threatening its neighbors is not an option acceptable.

Iran already fought a 10yr war with Iraq cost millions in lives.

Iran is 100x the size of Israel.and faces no threat if not for its own rogue behavior of funding terrorists
(13-04-2024, 11:12 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]Israel wants to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities and set them back each time. Iran wants nuclear weapon it does not care about what nonsense green light and all that shit.

Since when Iran cared.

The risk of Iran having a nuclear weapon and constantly threatening its neighbors is not an option acceptable.

Iran already fought a 10yr war with Iraq cost millions in lives.

Iran is 100x the size of Israel.and faces no threat if not for its own rogue behavior of funding terrorists

Iran-Iraq war began with the invasion by Iraq. And guess who supported and funded Iraq?
(13-04-2024, 09:28 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]There is actually no serious way for Iran to successfully attack Israel


you are a genius General !
(13-04-2024, 10:41 AM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: [ -> ]Since Israel is so wealthy, why they need so much funding from US huh?

Wealthy compare to Iran. Singapore's GDP was USD 466 billion in 2022 and Israel was USD 525 billino.  We have 6 million people and Israel has 10 million.  If Singapore were to be attacked by its neighbors, it will need external funds too for more arms.
Iran could attack Israeli embassies in overseas to save face
(13-04-2024, 01:00 PM)teaserteam Wrote: [ -> ]Wealthy compare to Iran. Singapore's GDP was USD 466 billion in 2022 and Israel was USD 525 billino.  We have 6 million people and Israel has 10 million.  If Singapore were to be attacked by its neighbors, it will need external funds too for more arms.

But this time there's no attack by its neighbours (except Hamas), it's Israel that wants to attack other countries. But Israel vs Hamas is liek elephant vs ants, there's no danger of Israel falling.

BTW, even in the past when there's no war, US has been funding Israel. 

Quote:Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid: up to February 2022, the US had provided Israel US$150 billion (non-inflation-adjusted) in assistance.[3] In 1999, the US government signed a commitment to provide Israel with at least US$2.7 billion in military aid annually for ten years; in 2009 it was raised to $3 billion; and in 2019 raised to a minimum of US$3.8 billion.[3] Since 1972, the US has also extended loan guarantees to Israel to assist with housing shortages, absorption of new Jewish immigrants and economic recovery.[3] Moreover, the United States is Israel's largest trading partner; two-way trade totaled nearly $50 billion by 2023.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%..._relations
There is actually no serious way for Iran to worry about sgbutt losing money in the stock market, because they attack Israel.
(13-04-2024, 11:12 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]...

The risk of Iran having a nuclear weapon and constantly threatening its neighbors is not an option acceptable.

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Who are you to say "this option is not acceptable?"  


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"The matter can be deemed concluded, settle"

Iran's mission to UN said in a post on X few hours after start of the 5 hours operation.

How Israel & allied defenses intercepted more than 300 Iranian missiles & drones.

Almost all ballistic missiles & drones Iran launched at Israel in unprecedented attack late Saturday were intercepted & failed to meet their mark, to Israeli & American officials said, highlighting formidable, & multi-layered missile defense deployed by the two allied partners.

Most of more than 300 Iranian munitions, believed to have been launched from inside of Iran’s territory.
5-hour attack, were intercepted b4 got to Israel, more than 1,100 miles (1,770 kilometers) from their launch points.
Israel’s: Sunday a “99%” of projectiles fired by Iran were intercepted by Israel & partners, only “a small number” of ballistic missiles reach Israel.

In total, around 170 drones, more than 30 cruise missiles & more than 120 ballistic missiles were launched at Israel by Iran overnight Sat and Sunday morning. In a call on Sunday, US Joe Biden told Israeli PM Netanyahu a constituted a win for Israel as nothing of “value” about 70 drones, 3 ballistic missiles were successful intercepted by US Navy, U.S. aircraft, no giving details of what is used to down the projectiles.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/14/middl...index.html
How US Navy down @least 3 ballistic missiles using Aegis missile system aboard 2 guided-missiles destroyers in eastern Mediterranean, As US warplanes don't revealed where US jets operated, or US Navy aircraft carriers & land-based aircraft well within range of the region.

“To defense Israel, US military moved aircraft, ballistic missile, and destroyers over course of the past wk.” Thanks to all those deployments their extraordinary skill members, US was well-prepared to defend Israel against Iranian attack. Israel take down nearly all of the incoming drones and missiles,” thk all, US president said in a statement.
It's really a stewpig thread, even more so with words like serious and successfully.
If sgbutt wants to be a political commentator, he should set up his own YouTube channel.

Then we have a chance to see how handsome he is 😉.
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