It’s illegal, but Airbnb hosts in Singapore are still offering short-term stays. A check by CNA found listings offering stays of two or three nights in condominiums and HDB flats.
https://cna.asia/4bEsI27
can they hide it under co living ?
They hv to host on other less famous online platforms and expect less visitors.
Airbnb is too easy to be caught
Don't want to catch with 10 TIMES the fine
Then talk so much for what?
Not surprised given modest hotel already cost $400-$500 per night.
Unless you want to cramp.in a backpackers room for $150, a 2 room.HDB for $200-$300 per night is decent price.
Very attractive for those who need to earn some income....though illegal but its not like a crime like stealing.....nobody is harmed by this
(02-06-2024, 11:21 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]Not surprised given modest hotel already cost $400-$500 per night.
Unless you want to cramp.in a backpackers room for $150, a 2 room.HDB for $200-$300 per night is decent price.
Very attractive for those who need to earn some income....though illegal but its not like a crime like stealing.....nobody is harmed by this
How come your rates so high? Modest hotels usually less than $200.
There are a lot of cheap stays for below $100.
Just check them on the internet.
(02-06-2024, 11:21 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]Not surprised given modest hotel already cost $400-$500 per night.
Unless you want to cramp.in a backpackers room for $150, a 2 room.HDB for $200-$300 per night is decent price.
Very attractive for those who need to earn some income....though illegal but its not like a crime like stealing.....nobody is harmed by this
Like illegal sellers/hawkers, they do no harm at all? Proper businesses need to pay rent and taxes, and their incomes are affected by these illegal activities
(02-06-2024, 11:21 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]Not surprised given modest hotel already cost $400-$500 per night. Unless you want to cramp.in a backpackers room for $150, a 2 room.HDB for $200-$300 per night is decent price. Very attractive for those who need to earn some income....though illegal but its not like a crime like stealing.....nobody is harmed by this
Since many HDB residents are not well to do, giving them the option to rent out their homes for Airbnb may be a godsend. As not all flats are purchased at subsidised rates, sweeping restrictions preventing these assets from being used to churn additional income for their owners, should not apply across the board.
(02-06-2024, 11:59 AM)K88 shu shu Wrote: [ -> ]Everyone want to earn extra $$$ in order to survive in SGP.
Most owners of private condos are not in dire need of supplementary income from Airbnb or other forms of short term rental. Most landlords of private properties would prefer long term leases that do not entail the encumbrance and hassle of dealing with multiple short term tenants.
(02-06-2024, 10:35 AM)WhatDoYouThink! Wrote: [ -> ]They hv to host on other less famous online platforms and expect less visitors. Airbnb is too easy to be caught
The movement of tourists going in and out of HDB flats is no different from noisy neighbours and unsavoury long term tenants who are every bit as annoying. The presence of strangers is already a common sight at most HDB estates since there is no restriction of access to deliverymen, salespersons, contractors, befrienders from voluntary welfare organisations etc. These strangers may also create unease or pose a potential threat to residents. Should short term tenants create a commotion, flat owners may turn to the HDB or police to intervene. How different is this to summoning a condo’s security personnel or management to take action?
(02-06-2024, 10:05 AM)Bigiron Wrote: [ -> ]It’s illegal, but Airbnb hosts in Singapore are still offering short-term stays. A check by CNA found listings offering stays of two or three nights in condominiums and HDB flats.
The Govt seems to believe that public flats are intended to be permanent homes and not used to profit their owners. However, this runs counter to what PM Lawrence Wong told Housing Board flat residents in 2017 when he was National Development Minister. He referred to their flats as stored value assets and a nest-egg for their retirement needs.
(02-06-2024, 01:37 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote: [ -> ]
The Govt seems to believe that public flats are intended to be permanent homes and not used to profit their owners. However, this runs counter to what PM Lawrence Wong told Housing Board flat residents in 2017 when he was National Development Minister. He referred to their flats as stored value assets and a nest-egg for their retirement needs.
I believed Govt wants to protect the earnings of hotel industries. But, why lacks empathy of letting home owners, especially those elderlies, to get some meagre earnings for AirBNB usage?
(02-06-2024, 01:42 PM)Gemstar Wrote: [ -> ]I believed Govt wants to protect the earnings of hotel industries. But, why lacks empathy of letting home owners, especially those elderlies, to get some meagre earnings for AirBNB usage?
Our Govt has always tried to portray itself as "pro-business" so to hell with ordinary citizens.
(02-06-2024, 01:34 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote: [ -> ]The movement of tourists going in and out of HDB flats is no different from noisy neighbours and unsavoury long term tenants who are every bit as annoying. The presence of strangers is already a common sight at most HDB estates since there is no restriction of access to deliverymen, salespersons, contractors, befrienders from voluntary welfare organisations etc. These strangers may also create unease or pose a potential threat to residents. Should short term tenants create a commotion, flat owners may turn to the HDB or police to intervene. How different is this to summoning a condo’s security personnel or management to take action?
Some tenants even use the premises as tuition centers to conduct lessons in groups, and let students use condo facilities like the pool after classes.
They wun bother even mgmt and security took gave warnings after complains. The only way is to inform bca to inspect the place during classes, and even then it'll take a few more months for them to move out
(02-06-2024, 02:07 PM)WhatDoYouThink! Wrote: [ -> ]Some tenants even use the premises as tuition centers to conduct lessons in groups, and let students use condo facilities like the pool after classes. They wun bother even mgmt and security took gave warnings after complains. The only way is to inform bca to inspect the place during classes, and even then it'll take a few more months for them to move out
The cleaner at my friend's condo let her sons and his friends swim at the pool during the school holidays, but they were caught straightaway as the group stood out like a sore thumb.
(02-06-2024, 02:11 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote: [ -> ]The cleaner at my friend's condo let her sons and his friends swim at the pool during the school holidays, but they were caught straightaway as the group stood out like a sore thumb.
Usually the security guards are quite alert.
Got one incident where the security warned an outsider to get out of the pool and she refused, the mc chairman came and pulled her out by her hair. Ofc long not short hair
(02-06-2024, 02:04 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote: [ -> ]Our Govt has always tried to portray itself as "pro-business" so to hell with ordinary citizens.
Becos these pappies already hv self satisfactions and self entitlements to their million dollar pay and do not empathise those who are struggling with their daily livelihoods.
(02-06-2024, 02:15 PM)WhatDoYouThink! Wrote: [ -> ]Usually the security guards are quite alert. Got one incident where the security warned an outsider to get out of the pool and she refused, the mc chairman came and pulled her out by her hair. Ofc long not short hair
There are lots of outsiders using my condo's swimming pool, BBQ pits, function room, tennis courts and gym. Most are friends brought in by residents, but some return on their own unaccompanied, after they have circumvented the loopholes. The BBQ pits, function room and tennis courts are often booked by residents for friends who use these facilities even when unaccompanied.
(02-06-2024, 02:18 PM)Gemstar Wrote: [ -> ]Becos these pappies already hv self satisfactions and self entitlements to their million dollar pay and do not empathise those who are struggling with their daily livelihoods.
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