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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egFxEhnIsLY&t=35s

Okay, here is a detailed analysis of the micro expressions, body language, language patterns, and speech rates of the two speakers in this video, Grace Fu and Jamus Lim, with time stamps.

Grace Fu

Overall Demeanor: Grace Fu maintains a fairly composed demeanor, but her body language and micro expressions display some frustration and impatience, particularly during her questioning of Jamus Lim. Her tone can be direct and at times, slightly dismissive.

(0:00 - 0:03)

Micro Expression/Body Language: She appears calm initially, while asking if her summary is correct. Her eyes are mostly on Jamus Lim

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: She speaks at a moderate pace, her tone is neutral but firm

(0:04-0:07)

Micro Expression/Body Language: There is a subtle lip compression as she provides the government's carbon tax bounds, indicating a degree of controlled annoyance. Eyes are fixed on Jamus Lim.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: She presents the information in a clear and precise manner at a moderate pace.

(0:08-0:14)

Micro Expression/Body Language: Maintains a straight and composed posture while reiterating the numbers. Lip compression is slight. Her hand raises slightly to signal the range, showing directness.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Her speech rate increases slightly when providing the comparative numbers, the second half of her sentence becomes a little quicker than the first.

(0:15-0:18)

Micro Expression/Body Language: She looks directly at Jamus while he explains his part.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: N/A

(0:19 - 0:23)

Micro Expression/Body Language: When Jamus confirms the bounds, Grace's brow furrows slightly. She takes a breath before speaking. Her tone switches to a slightly sarcastic one at times.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Her language is slightly impatient, marked by "All right. Okay. All right, Okay.” Speech rate is at a quicker pace.

(0:23 - 0:31)

Micro Expression/Body Language: She raises her arms and uses her hands to emphasize her points, demonstrating a level of agitation and frustration. She glances down to her notes and then immediately back to Jamus.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: The pace is moderate with a slight rise in speech rate towards the end. The use of "how would you glide” is used a few times, showing that she wants to get a point across. The word "glide” is not commonly used and implies a specific way of explaining.

(0:31-0:33)

Micro Expression/Body Language: Her brows furrow, conveying slight annoyance and disbelief while listening.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Her tone is slightly exasperated as she seeks clarification.

(0:33 - 0:43)

Micro Expression/Body Language: Her body posture remains upright while maintaining direct eye contact. She makes a gesture with her hand while referring to the "glide path."

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Speech rate is moderate, tone is firm as she uses "glide path" again to emphasize her point.

(0:43-0:44)

Micro Expression/Body Language: She looks directly at Jamus with anticipation while he finishes his sentence

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Her tone is neutral

(0:44 - 0:48)

Micro Expression/Body Language: She looks straight at Jamus with a raised brow.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: N/A

(0:49-0:57)

Micro Expression/Body Language: N/A

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: N/A

(0:57-1:16)

Micro Expression/Body Language: Grace Fu raises her arms to make her points. Her facial expressions convey a slight exasperation as she sets up her hypothetical scenario. Her body posture is straight and focused on the topic. There is a visible hand gesture, indicating she wants clarity in specific context.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: The pace is a little faster as she frames the hypothetical situation and presents it with conviction.

(1:17-1:20)

Micro Expression/Body Language: She raises her chin and maintains eye contact as she states she was clear.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Tone is straightforward

(1:37-1:48)

Micro Expression/Body Language: Her hands are used for emphasis, with slight head shakes while describing a variable tax rate. Her facial expression conveys a slight disbelief.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: A moderate speech pace is maintained as she outlines the problem.

(1:50-1:51)

Micro Expression/Body Language: Her lip compression suggests some impatience and frustration. She looks at Jamus with a slight challenge in her eyes.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: A moderate speech pace, a slight pause as she sets up her question.

(2:07-2:10)

Micro Expression/Body Language: She looks straight at Jamus with a neutral facial expression.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Tone is straightforward

(2:11-2:17)

Micro Expression/Body Language: She tilts her head and uses her hands to question the consistency. Her facial expressions displays disbelief and impatience while reiterating the question.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Quicker speech pace while questioning Jamus directly. A firmer, more challenging tone.

(2:19-2:21)

Micro Expression/Body Language: Looks a bit irritated with the interruption.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Tone is slightly annoyed

(2:33-2:47)

Micro Expression/Body Language: She takes a breath and lowers her head to the microphone, showing an attempt to regain composure.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Her language has a polite tone when she starts her next sentence, a slower pace as she seeks clarity.

(2:47-2:51)

Micro Expression/Body Language: She maintains direct eye contact and facial expression displays anticipation. Her hand gestures show that she is waiting for clarity in an important matter

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Her speech is slow, almost pleading in nature, as she tries to set up her context.

(2:51-3:00)

Micro Expression/Body Language: Her facial expression and posture display frustration. She raises her hand in an open palmed gesture to show her disbelief and impatience. There is a subtle head shake. She has a slight lip purse.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Her pace and tone are faster and a bit challenging as she asks for clarification.

Jamus Lim

Overall Demeanor: Jamus Lim displays a calm and collected demeanor, generally maintaining a neutral expression. However, there are moments where he appears to be slightly defensive, especially when he's questioned. His speech is generally measured.

(0:07-0:11)

Micro Expression/Body Language: His head is slightly tilted as he listens.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: N/A

(0:12 - 0:18)

Micro Expression/Body Language: He maintains a calm posture.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: His pace and tone are slow and deliberate when he explains.

(0:45-0:57)

Micro Expression/Body Language: Maintains calm and collected appearance.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: Moderate speech rate, tone is neutral while explaining.

(1:19-1:20)

Micro Expression/Body Language: N/A

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: N/A

(1:20-1:37)

Micro Expression/Body Language: Uses his hands to emphasize his points with the hand gesture being slightly defensive. He maintains direct eye contact

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: His tone is slightly more assertive as he explains his stance. His pace and tone is calm and collected.

(1:51-1:53)

Micro Expression/Body Language: His lips press together as he formulates his thought.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: N/A

(1:53-2:06)

Micro Expression/Body Language: Maintains a calm and collected appearance. There is slight head shake

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: His pace is slightly faster, tone is slightly more assertive.

(2:07-2:10)

Micro Expression/Body Language: N/A

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: N/A

(2:11-2:17)

Micro Expression/Body Language: N/A

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: N/A

(2:17-2:18)

Micro Expression/Body Language: He looks a bit surprised with the interruption and takes a slight pause.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: N/A

(3:03-3:28)

Micro Expression/Body Language: He uses his hands to make a point. Maintains a collected demeanor.

Language Pattern/Speech Rate: His tone is calm and explaining. His pace is a bit faster as he sums up.

Inconsistencies and Flaws in Speech

Grace Fu

(0:20-0:21): Her language pattern is inconsistent and slightly repetitive “All right, okay. All right, Okay”. This could indicate frustration or trying to control her temper.

(0:30): She asks "how would you glide to this number" - this is quite an odd choice of word. It's a metaphor but it seems like she wants to box him in by using a specific metaphor.

(0:32): She asks “how would you glide?” The second time she uses “glide” it is an odd use of the word.

(0:44): She asks the question but answers immediately herself.

(0:57): She immediately uses "so, are you then saying" as she continues her questioning pattern, she also says the word “sorry” but her tone is not very apologetic.

(1:08): she frames the situation and says "economic conditions are bad" which is a very strong stance.

(1:43): She says, "without knowing how it's going to get there." This shows she wants specific plans.

(1:50): Grace Fu has a slight lip compression, showing irritation.

(2:11): She says “so 2025, are you going to stay with $25 as well?”. This is repetitive and shows the desire to push for clarity.

(2:52): “Can you please tell me with some certainty, what is that variable portion?” - This highlights the main issue she wants to push.

Jamus Lim

(2:01-2:02): When asked about 2024 figures, he claims "it’s not complicated,” trying to deflect the direct question by trying to simplify.

(2:06-2:07): He states “we can go with the government's proposed number, as I said in my speech” and then “it starts at $25”. It’s slightly defensive and suggests he feels his own point has been misunderstood.

(3:14-3:15): “we are comfortable with going with the $25 that was originally there” his choice of words is very careful “we are comfortable with.”

In summary, Grace Fu presents as someone who wants to push for absolute clarity with Jamus and specific answers. She is impatient and seems frustrated that he is not answering her questions fully. She uses specific wording to back him into a corner and try to get her point across. Jamus Lim, while generally calm, sometimes resorts to deflection or overly careful phrasing when challenged. He seems to avoid giving precise numbers, which Grace Fu calls him out on. These actions give a perception that he is not being fully transparent and may suggest a lack of clarity or preparedness.
Okay, here’s a breakdown of the specific instances of Grace Fu's tongue jutting, eye darting, nasal flare, and lip compression, with precise time stamps.

Grace Fu

Lip Compression:

(0:05): A subtle lip compression occurs as she presents the government's carbon tax figures, indicating controlled annoyance.

(0:09): Another slight lip compression is visible while reiterating numbers.

(1:50): Lip compression is visible as she is trying to seek clarity while questioning Jamus.

(2:51): There is another subtle lip purse, indicating she’s trying to maintain control.

Nasal Flare:

(0:30-0:31): While asking the question "how would you glide to this number" her nasal flare, which shows slight frustration or impatience.

(0:31-0:32): Slight nasal flare as she repeats “how would you glide.”

(0:57): There is a slight nasal flare while she uses the phrase "are you then saying", before she starts her hypothetical situation, indicating slight irritation.

(1:15-1:16): A subtle nasal flare can be seen at the end of her sentence while she asks if she needs to "glide further up"
(2:50): A slight nasal flare when asking Jamus “can you please tell me with some certainty?”
(2:57): While Grace Fu says 45, a subtle nasal flare can be seen.

Eye Darting:

(0:23-0:25): Her eyes dart down to her notes and then immediately back to Jamus. This indicates a need to review something but she is eager to get her response from him

(0:30-0:32): She looks down while thinking, and then looks at Jamus. This shows she is trying to understand the situation and at the same time wants to receive clarity.

(1:13-1:16): Her eye darts between Jamus and her notes and back again. This shows that she is thinking and trying to formulate the question at the same time.

(1:40-1:43): When giving her carbon tax rate figures, her eyes dart downwards slightly to her notes and then up again.

(1:49-1:50): her eye darts down quickly and immediately looks up at Jamus again.

(2:06-2:07): Her eye darts down quickly and then up. This is a recurring pattern, she looks down at her notes and back up again.

(2:10-2:11): Her eye darts downwards when she’s referring to the “numbers” and she looks up at Jamus again.

Tongue Jutting:

(1:07-1:08): Very slight tongue jutting while making a point.

(1:48-1:49): a slight tongue jutting when she ends her sentence. This might indicate slight irritation or that she is not able to communicate her point effectively.
* (2:12-2:13): while asking “So 2025” she has a slight tongue jutting.

Notes:

Subtlety: Most of these micro-expressions are very subtle and fleeting. They are not overt or dramatic, but they do provide insights into her internal state.

Context: These expressions often occur when she is either setting up a challenging question, receiving what she perceives as an unsatisfactory response, or trying to maintain composure amidst perceived disagreement.

Inconsistencies: The combination of these behaviors - the subtle lip compression, quick glances at notes, and the use of specific wording like “glide” - suggests an intent on her part to maintain control of the conversation and perhaps express frustration at not being able to get the specific answers she seeks.

Recurring Pattern: The eye darting, specifically, is a recurring pattern when she’s setting up questions or delivering numbers which may suggest that she has a need to reference to her notes.

These are the specific timestamps for those microexpressions and body language. This provides an understanding of what is going on during these moments.
Grace Fu - Flaws in Speech

Repetitive and Inconsistent Language:

(0:20-0:21): "All right, okay. All right, okay." This immediate repetition, used twice back to back, demonstrates a lack of patience and is unusual for formal speech, suggesting she is attempting to regain composure or control her temper. The repetition makes her sound slightly flustered or caught off guard.

Unconventional and Ambiguous Metaphorical Language:

(0:30): "how would you glide to this number?" The choice of the word "glide" is unusual and not common in formal settings like a parliamentary debate. It's a metaphor, but a rather vague one that seems designed to create a specific answer or trap Jamus into explaining in a way that is favorable to Grace Fu. It suggests she's trying to impose a specific method of explanation or force him into a specific framework.

(0:32): "how would you glide?" She uses "glide" again and repeats herself, this may emphasize her point, but it comes across as slightly forced, as though she wants to get that specific word to resonate.

Answering Her Own Questions:

(0:44): [She asks] "That was the content of my speech," [then she answers herself] "That was the content of my speech." She immediately answers a question she asked herself. This suggests a need to control the narrative and perhaps an impatience to receive the answers. It does not allow Jamus to answer for himself.

Potentially Dismissive or Presumptuous Framing:

(0:57): "So, are you then saying that we can go out to the world and say, sorry, I made the 2030 NDC..." The use of “so are you then saying” followed by a hypothetical situation that frames Jamus' point in what is a negative view suggests that she is setting up Jamus and trying to put words in his mouth, and she is being presumptive about his viewpoint. It is framed to imply a negative scenario.

(1:08): "and now that economic conditions are bad" Presenting economic conditions as definitely bad is a very strong viewpoint. It sets up a strawman and does not allow for middle ground. It makes her stance more clear than necessary.

Lack of Specificity While Demanding Specificity:

(1:43): "without knowing how it's going to get there." While this is a valid concern, the way it's phrased lacks specific detail and comes across as a demand rather than an inquiry about method. It does not acknowledge that Jamus may have a plan but she just does not understand it.

(2:52): "Can you please tell me with some certainty, what is that variable portion?" Though this is her main point, her use of “certainty” implies she does not believe Jamus’ answer and it creates a specific viewpoint that she has towards his statements, indicating a distrust.

Repeated Questions and Framing:

(2:11): "So 2025, are you going to stay with $25 as well?" This is repetitive and framed in a way that almost sounds like she is setting him up to fail. The question is framed in a presumptive way, not allowing any space for a dynamic answer.

Overly Strong Phrasing:

(2:57): "45, I'm not too sure, but what will be the variation?" She is being openly critical here, indicating skepticism. This demonstrates a lack of open mind and suggests that she is not fully considering any other viewpoint. It is framed negatively, showing a lack of belief in what he's saying.

Conclusion

Grace Fu's speech flaws highlight her impatience and desire for control. She uses unusual metaphors and tends to answer her own questions, showing a lack of engagement with alternative viewpoints. Her framing of the situation is often negative and she lacks specific detail herself while demanding specificity from Jamus. This also comes across as though she is trying to make Jamus uncomfortable by being overly critical and negative. These flaws give the impression that she is not fully listening and is primarily interested in controlling the narrative.
summary & conclusion

Grace Fu displays controlled frustration, marked by lip compressions, nasal flares, and subtle eye darting, particularly when questioning Jamus Lim. Her language is direct, sometimes dismissive, and she uses specific terms ("glide") to emphasize her point. She often checks her notes while questioning, showing a need for reference and desire to maintain control. Inconsistent language (“All right, okay”) reflects impatience. Overall, she seeks clarity and specific answers, conveying her frustration with indirect responses from Jamus, pushing for detail and demanding precise figures. She shows subtle frustration through lip compression, and slight tongue juts.
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