(10-02-2022, 08:28 PM)Sentinel Wrote: [ -> ]The police has no power under any law to demand records of messages or details of phone calls of anyone, even if they are investigating a capital case
Stop sprouting nonsense if you dont know the laws
you are lying again.
below is proof that police can ask for phone records for investigation
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/p...n-criminal
Section 20 of the CPC empowers the police to order the "production of any document or other thing" for the purposes of criminal investigations.
Citing this, Dr Balakrishnan said the data collected by TraceTogether is not exempt from these provisions.
He noted that other forms of sensitive data which may be protected by privacy laws, such as
phone or banking
records, are similarly subject to these provisions.
"The police must be given the tools to bring criminals to justice and protect the safety and security of all Singaporeans," he added.
"And especially in very serious cases, and where lives are at stake, it is not reasonable for us to say that certain classes of data should be out of reach of the police."
(10-02-2022, 09:22 PM)forum456 Wrote: [ -> ]you are lying again.
below is proof that police can ask for phone records for investigation
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/p...n-criminal
Section 20 of the CPC empowers the police to order the "production of any document or other thing" for the purposes of criminal investigations.
Citing this, Dr Balakrishnan said the data collected by TraceTogether is not exempt from these provisions.
He noted that other forms of sensitive data which may be protected by privacy laws, such as phone or banking records, are similarly subject to these provisions.
"The police must be given the tools to bring criminals to justice and protect the safety and security of all Singaporeans," he added.
"And especially in very serious cases, and where lives are at stake, it is not reasonable for us to say that certain classes of data should be out of reach of the police."
You idiot, phone records are just logs of calls made
There is no way to access the contents
Same for whatsapp and emails, which is more sécure. Tell me how the police can hv access, smart guy
Why are you so stupig?
(10-02-2022, 09:47 PM)Sentinel Wrote: [ -> ]You idiot, phone records are just logs of calls made
There is no way to access the contents
Same for whatsapp and emails, which is more sécure. Tell me how the police can hv access, smart guy
Why are you so stupig?
you are lying again and again.
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail....776cd60053
The new law, included in recent amendments to the Criminal Procedure Code, allows for police to access computers which they have reasonable cause to suspect is or has been used in connection with, or contains or did contain evidence relating to an arrestable offence. Police may use any such computer, which operates in or from Singapore, to search any data contained in or available to such computer, even when it is located outside Singapore. Police may also order people to provide assistance in gaining access to the computer, including by providing any username, password or other authentication information required for access. Anyone who fails to comply shall be guilty of an offence and liable for up to $10,000 for a company, or up to $5000 and/or 6 months imprisonment for an individual.
(10-02-2022, 05:12 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like they will finish off the WP this time over this incident.
Nothing surprising. Last election on average counting where WP contestee the total votes for WP was higher than PAP...
First, RK lied in Parliament. PAP did not tell her to lie.
Second, PS and FM knew that RK lied but they kept quiet about it. PAP did not tell them to keep quiet.
From your post, it seems like you expect Parliament to let these pass? It is OK for RK to tell lies? It is OK for RK's boss to keep quiet while she went about lying?
And now you say PAP fixed WP.
Be honest lar. It's WP fixed WP...or if you like, scored its own goal.
(10-02-2022, 08:10 PM)Huliwang Wrote: [ -> ]That's the price one must pay for foolishly hiding a lie for an unscrupulous person out of compassion.......... 
Even if they did that, how is that a crime? Especially when the culprit doesn't get any criminal charges ?
(10-02-2022, 10:19 PM)forum456 Wrote: [ -> ]you are lying again and again.
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail....776cd60053
The new law, included in recent amendments to the Criminal Procedure Code, allows for police to access computers which they have reasonable cause to suspect is or has been used in connection with, or contains or did contain evidence relating to an arrestable offence. Police may use any such computer, which operates in or from Singapore, to search any data contained in or available to such computer, even when it is located outside Singapore. Police may also order people to provide assistance in gaining access to the computer, including by providing any username, password or other authentication information required for access. Anyone who fails to comply shall be guilty of an offence and liable for up to $10,000 for a company, or up to $5000 and/or 6 months imprisonment for an individual.
So you think police can access or not? Is this even an arrestable crime or not? Use your brain a bit can or not? Which law can the police use to make it an arrestable charge, then request for assistance? If you tell me what PS and that Malay hv committed an arrestable crime, then i accede, or else there is no law existing for thé police to apply to
唉呀，政治这码事，可不是请喝茶吃饭唱卡啦ok
Alas, politics is not a matter of drinking tea, eating, singing karaoke, ok
WP vice-chairman Faisal Manap's refusal to answer the questions put to him by the Committee of Privileges during his testimony was "flagrant and inexcusable", said a report by the committee.
His refusal suggested that he wanted to hide the truth, it added.
https://str.sg/wWMq
(10-02-2022, 10:53 PM)Bigiron Wrote: [ -> ]WP vice-chairman Faisal Manap's refusal to answer the questions put to him by the Committee of Privileges during his testimony was "flagrant and inexcusable", said a report by the committee.
His refusal suggested that he wanted to hide the truth, it added. https://str.sg/wWMq
Exactly the same tone as ET, always suggesting this, put it to you that, bla, bla blah
wasting time again. just put PS into jail now.
(10-02-2022, 10:53 PM)Bigiron Wrote: [ -> ]10 Facts About the COP’s Final Report Whereby Mr Singh & Mr Faisal Might Face Criminal Proceedings
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Ahhh. I think I know why Sylvia is not being charged!
If she doesn't do an RK in court proceedings against the 2 guys......
But if she does........
You fill in the blanks yourself.
The recommendations by the COP is ready and it suggested criminal charges against PS and FM and a $35K fine on RK. We can more or less conclude that WP is screwed because these recommendations will be debated and put to vote at next parliamentary session. PAP being the majority of the parliament, the recommendations will be passed in a breeze. .....
It is akin to a small boy stealing candy from the shop and the parents have to take the blame for his actions.
(11-02-2022, 02:59 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]It is akin to a small boy stealing candy from the shop and the parents have to take the blame for his actions.
They think the child is still a child….
(11-02-2022, 01:53 AM)Huliwang Wrote: [ -> ]The recommendations by the COP is ready and it suggested criminal charges against PS and FM and a $35K fine on RK. We can more or less conclude that WP is screwed because these recommendations will be debated and put to vote at next parliamentary session. PAP being the majority of the parliament, the recommendations will be passed in a breeze. .....
Politic is very dirty(龌龊）. 明争暗斗，太可怕了，
就是因为理念不同。
(10-02-2022, 09:05 PM)Galilo_l Wrote: [ -> ]PAP 万岁 万岁 ! 
不懂易经真糟糕！
是新加坡万岁才是最好。
Now high cost of living.
High medical cost
GST is going to rise.
Expensive housing.
Stagnant salary.
CPF can’t retire happily…
Low birth rate…
Aging population…
…
(10-02-2022, 06:56 PM)klat Wrote: [ -> ]Very dirty politiks being played for everyone to see.
Very shameful
Do they understand the word shameful??? i think you have over estimated them
(11-02-2022, 01:53 AM)Huliwang Wrote: [ -> ]The recommendations by the COP is ready and it suggested criminal charges against PS and FM and a $35K fine on RK. We can more or less conclude that WP is screwed because these recommendations will be debated and put to vote at next parliamentary session. PAP being the majority of the parliament, the recommendations will be passed in a breeze. .....
I thought it depends on whether the public prosecutor think got case or not? COP can only refer to PP but PP can don't take up the case of they think there's no case?
(11-02-2022, 01:11 PM)winbig Wrote: [ -> ]I thought it depends on whether the public prosecutor think got case or not? COP can only refer to PP but PP can don't take up the case of they think there's no case?
I am not sure whether PP can say got case or no case if parliament voted got case and to be charged as recommended.
However whether the verdict will be guilty as charged or not I am not sure. There is no concrete evidence that PS master minded the whole saga and instructed RK to continue with her lies. Seems like COP chose to believe a confirmed liar, RK, to recommend the case which is full of doubts to be tried in court to make themselves look very democratic, fair to give PS a chance to defend himself, very transparent and noble. However, some may view this tactic as crap, high handed and hypocritical......
(10-02-2022, 05:21 PM)Ola Wrote: [ -> ]![[Image: LHL-provide-Oppos-with-resources-2021.png]](https://i.ibb.co/dLW91gF/LHL-provide-Oppos-with-resources-2021.png)
LOTO Singh used to be clean shaven, but after he became WP's boss, he started to keep some hair to make himself look older?
Anyway, the whole saga has nothing to do with PM Lee and PAP.
It all started with RK telling a lie and repealing it several times in Parliament. You cannot say that PAP is fixing WP when RK lied on her her accord.
PS failed to decisively expose RK which would have won him applause from both PAP supporters and oppies. He gave excuses like
oh! she said she was raped before! I gave her time. She needs to speak to her father before informing Parliament about her lying!
Rubbish!
And yes, she must take responsibly to confess (it's not my responsibility)
He shirked his responsibility as both the LOTO and WP's boss. One of his party members had lied in Parliament but he kept quiet, and said it was for RK to confess...so for months, he knew about the lie but kept quiet and did not tell the House about it.
Those of you who want PAP kicked out, and WP to form the next government......this is the quality of the WP's boss who would become the PM.
I think it is time for WP to either split or for some of its members to quit and join another party. Those who still want to stay with this LOTO, by all means stay. Those who are disappointed with him, please consider leaving....
Should have fine her $50k and case close. Whoever she tell does not absolve or mitigate her crime of lying in parliament. Punishing the listeners like her party or parents is tantamount to anyhow spray.