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Instead for sacking WKS on the spot when challenged by LTK, LHL turned around and throw back at LTK and ask him "What you want me to do then?" something like that.

LTK says something like "he is a Minister under you, so you decide" and then proceeded to go back to his bench and sat down

Then nothing happened after that.

Only next election comes, WKS did not contest and quietly faded away

Is this the 1st world parliament they were talking about?

I dont see it

Pot still calling thé kettle black now, no change since then

Both strutting like peacocks, but of course one is much larger with a bigger plump of feathers than the much smaller cock but nothing to do with us common people

We are just like watching an opera and paying a very high price watching this wayang kulit by the way

You meant minister need to account everything happened in his ministry even why the office boy didn't report to work har....A army general need to know his soldier didn't clean his rifle?

Don't forget GKY's multi failures...

(20-02-2022, 05:40 AM)ysh02 Wrote: [ -> ]You meant minister need to account everything happened in his ministry even why the office boy didn't report to work har....A army general need to know his soldier didn't clean his rifle?

Yalor, his fello oppo mp lied but he has to be blamed. He kenna charged somemore and maybe kenna jailed somemore.

Wherelse the other party, the ministar lied about TT, nothing happened to the ministar and the boss.

Why double standards?

One law for own party and another law for oppo.

(20-02-2022, 05:40 AM)ysh02 Wrote: [ -> ]You meant minister need to account everything happened in his ministry even why the office boy didn't report to work har....A army general need to know his soldier didn't clean his rifle?

So we spend less effort chasing after Mas than getting those paper checks on RK rape victim report?

Don't go to rifle cleaning to divert attention.

Honesty and integrity. Where is WKS employed after getting sacked?

(20-02-2022, 05:40 AM)ysh02 Wrote: [ -> ]You meant minister need to account everything happened in his ministry even why the office boy didn't report to work har....A army general need to know his soldier didn't clean his rifle?

Didn’t clean rifle is a small matter. Let a terrorist escape is a big matter. Your logical mind got problem. Becos of this matter, did you know how much resources and $$$ were spent to catch him.

(20-02-2022, 05:40 AM)ysh02 Wrote: [ -> ]You meant minister need to account everything happened in his ministry even why the office boy didn't report to work har....A army general need to know his soldier didn't clean his rifle?

Yes, like a CEO of a company, he is and must be totally responsible for the bottom line

That, I believe, is what it is to be a CEO

Get this into your dumb head, that is a fact of being the hongcho

All accountability rest on your shoulders

(20-02-2022, 05:40 AM)ysh02 Wrote: [ -> ]You meant minister need to account everything happened in his ministry even why the office boy didn't report to work har....A army general need to know his soldier didn't clean his rifle?

there are such things like big mistakes and small mistakes.

your wife will forgive you if you bought a ten-cents pencil wrongly, but not a fake LV bag for 10,000

WKS salary jumped 35%

(20-02-2022, 05:40 AM)ysh02 Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, if it means failure to ensure discipline and accountability in the force, leading to mal-function weapons during battle.

You meant minister need to account everything happened in his ministry even why the office boy didn't report to work har....A army general need to know his soldier didn't clean his rifle?

There has always been double standards in handling many issues.

I do not expect politicians to be perfect or without faults.

I still remember WP MP Yaw who had affair and had to step down. The media went all out and WP reputation was tarnished by accusations of poor selection etc.

However shortly after there were 2 scandals on PAP side ...it was "quietly settled". I still remember LTK gracefully saying Palmer was a good speaker of the house and was fair....

In 1996, Chee Soon Juan made a mistake at a parliamentary committee on health care figures. When pressed he admitted the error, said it was a typo. He was put through a COP and fined along with 3 SDP members. The contention is he fabricated the number then lied that it was a typo.
Incident was used to tear down. The correct number was "25%" the number Chee submitted was "5%".
So how they "proved" its a it was not a typo and a fabrication? They said the number also appear in his book and a typo cannot be missed so it has to be a fabrication and hence Chee is a liar.

The media then proceeded to destroy Chee's reputation calling him liar.

The lesson learnt here is the PAP has created a system of minefield that constantly gives it opportunities to catch the opposition. Once a mistake is made e.g. typo or some statement they can use for defamation lawsuits, they will proceed to inflict maximum damage.

The power is asymmetrically used against opposition. In the past Singaporeans were part naive and part blinded by the economic progress to close one eye to what the pap is doing. This was known as the social contract...if life is good, let pap do what it wants to opposition.

Over the years people become more and more conscious of what is happening and how the pap has concentrated power to itself. This system no long benefits Singaporeans as much as Singapore transformed into a globalised city and economic benefits become unevenly distributed. The structural power elites make sure the are the prime beneficiaries and ordinary citizens get the trickle down.

Trust in the pap govt has gone down and everytime it uses its machinery against the opposition it is seen by the people as "fixing" the opposition as it has done so for last 50yrs.

https://amp.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1...dia-debate

One just have to see how the political power machinery as turned against his own brother and sister in law both respected members of our society once the dispute over the house occurred.

In our role as good citizens we have to put in place the check and balance so badly needed in our country and reduce PAP's power concentration.

a few yrs ago while having lunch with a well respected prof wu, duno why he kept condemning wks, said he's a useless guy. now looking back, he's right

Related by blood

now looking around, there're quit a number of wks too.

(20-02-2022, 08:44 AM)drgn Wrote: [ -> ]there are such things like big mistakes and small mistakes.

your wife will forgive you if you bought a ten-cents pencil wrongly, but not a fake LV bag for 10,000

Never buy fake goods for your wife. Big Grin

She will nag you until the day you uplorry.
Always remember don’t say you buy for her.
You choose, I pay the bill.

(20-02-2022, 11:02 AM)WhatDoYouThink? Wrote: [ -> ]a few yrs ago while having lunch with a well respected prof wu, duno why he kept condemning wks, said he's a useless guy. now looking back, he's right

Before that he was only a human resource manager in Philips.

Wong Kan Seng?

Heard about him from my uncle.

His Big gaps is like a meteorite that allow that Mas to escape like a handicap to Malaysia.

The whole PAP sama sama.

Alot of meteorites hitting us here and there.

We are lucky we did not die under their hands.

(20-02-2022, 08:44 AM)drgn Wrote: [ -> ]there are such things like big mistakes and small mistakes.

your wife will forgive you if you bought a ten-cents pencil wrongly, but not a fake LV bag for 10,000

V V GD REBUTTALS

(20-02-2022, 05:40 AM)ysh02 Wrote: [ -> ]You meant minister need to account everything happened in his ministry even why the office boy didn't report to work har....A army general need to know his soldier didn't clean his rifle?

U are giving examples on the v v extremes
it depends on the severity of the mistakes.

for wks case
spore safety is at stake
the office boy not rtn to work does not affect the company reputation, profit n loss

(20-02-2022, 05:40 AM)ysh02 Wrote: [ -> ]You meant minister need to account everything happened in his ministry even why the office boy didn't report to work har....A army general need to know his soldier didn't clean his rifle?

It depend.. If like Little India Riot (we never have that in last 50 years), mas selemat escape, great MRT breakdown, then yes, minister need to be accountable, unless you think these are small matters..

When you are the minister of Home Affair and you let a terrorist escape under your watch, you take full responsibility and step down.

(20-02-2022, 11:06 AM)Sentinel Wrote: [ -> ]Related by blood

Blood is thicker than water

WKS is certainly a multi millionaire.

Maybe should ask WKS whether is he a billionaire now?

WKS etc these old guard actually still " so call train give suggestive, advise behind "
I remember news on tv show " PAP conference , happen the cameraman take some video footage of WKS , etc old ex PAP MP, Ministers sitting around ".

(20-02-2022, 08:26 PM)Instinct Wrote: [ -> ]When you are the minister of Home Affair and you let a terrorist escape under your watch, you take full responsibility and step down.

When Salamak escaped, WKS should be sacked.

If it happened in Russia, they will send WKS and his family to Siberia..

A place where polar bears freely roam the streets

(21-02-2022, 12:27 AM)Scythian Wrote: [ -> ]When Salamak escaped, WKS should be sacked.

If it happened in Russia, they will send WKS and his family to Siberia..

A place where polar bears freely roam the streets

lol I still remember WKS talk so confident, claim Mas " Still hiding in SG "
Who knows he already long time escape from SG.

(21-02-2022, 12:46 AM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote: [ -> ]lol I still remember WKS talk so confident, claim Mas " Still hiding in SG "
Who knows he already long time escape from SG.

All his secret police, top agents and informers told him so.

(21-02-2022, 12:46 AM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote: [ -> ]lol I still remember WKS talk so confident, claim Mas " Still hiding in SG "
Who knows he already long time escape from SG.

no lah. he said ah mad was either hiding or not hiding in sg

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