I have met many citizens and I found almost all work as cleaners either in market, shopping centres, condo, schools etc; a few as security.
Is there no other decent jobs for them?
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Maybe the question should be why SG senior citizens cannot be like other countries where they can spend their retirement time walking in the garden and nature enjoying fresh air and not worried about their daily expanses.
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Better than jobless
Earning S$1500 - S$2500 a month not bad
(29-10-2022, 08:58 AM)Pass-by Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe the question should be why SG senior citizens cannot be like other countries where they can spend their retirement time walking in the garden and nature enjoying fresh air and not worried about their daily expanses.
CPF Board supposedly will give seniors best payout on retirement
(29-10-2022, 08:43 AM)webinarian Wrote: [ -> ]I have met many citizens and I found almost all work as cleaners either in market, shopping centres, condo, schools etc; a few as security.
Is there no other decent jobs for them?
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Not really .
Lao Goh, Tommy, Yangyang, etc. are having good life!
Everyday can tok cok sing song!

(29-10-2022, 08:43 AM)webinarian Wrote: [ -> ]I have met many citizens and I found almost all work as cleaners either in market, shopping centres, condo, schools etc; a few as security.
Is there no other decent jobs for them?
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What else you want them to do leh?

Old people can do what ? Construction worker ? Delivery food ? Too old to bring up / down and slow reaction .CPF payout old man only $400-500 monthly and depend Gov surplus fund give some cash during feasitive season only.
(29-10-2022, 11:14 AM)ysh02 Wrote: [ -> ]Old people can do what ? Construction worker ? Delivery food ? Too old to bring up / down and slow reaction .CPF payout old man only $400-500 monthly and depend Gov surplus fund give some cash during feasitive season only.
LHL also the same
but he also refused to step down 10 years ago
You never see those retirees WFH?
Some work as consultants, hourly paid.
Some pursue interest by baking.
(29-10-2022, 11:20 AM)FartSunKing Wrote: [ -> ]Stupid fcuks
So many here
Elderly cleaners are HAPPY
Because they have monthly income
Those unhappy are PAP haters
Trying to exploit HAPPY cleaners
To discredit PAP
Dear Great Liar from Malaysia
Will you or your Daughter be happy working as a cleaner for 5 years till 80 years old?
Or you want me to show you their faces with dozens of photos?
Talk thru your Arse because you are brainless.

(29-10-2022, 08:43 AM)webinarian Wrote: [ -> ]I have met many citizens and I found almost all work as cleaners either in market, shopping centres, condo, schools etc; a few as security.
Is there no other decent jobs for them?
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Already good. Free exercise and get paid decently.
(29-10-2022, 11:27 AM)FartSunKing Wrote: [ -> ]I go to Commonwealth Market & Food Centre almost everyday
The cleaning ladies there are elderly LOCALS and they are HAPPY
One auntie always smile when she sees me
Thanks to PAP, their job is easier now
As hawker centre diners have to return their tray to collection pts
And their pay like mine when I graduated with a degree from NTU in 1987
GOOD!
Jac 5354 and his daughter will be a Cleaners for the next 10 YEARS
to prove that he is Happy
Otherwise, he is eating his own words again
HYPOCRITE
(29-10-2022, 11:32 AM)FartSunKing Wrote: [ -> ]To all the fcuking whiners here
Why self fcuk you own arsehole
Over HAPPY elderly locals like hawker centre cleaners?
Just because you are unhappy for whatever fcuk reasons
Like being long term jobless despite having a degree, like ola
Doesn't mean others with jobs like cleaners are like unhappy like you
Fcuking lamers!
Angry for your own lies?
Then prove it with your own actions
You and your Daughter will be Cleaners for the next 10 YEARS
to prove that you will be happy
Why must lie everyday??
(29-10-2022, 11:39 AM)FartSunKing Wrote: [ -> ]I at age 60 is also an elderly cleaner
As I clean my 5I HDB flat every Saturday
For 4 hours WITHOUT PAY
knn what so degrading about cleaning jobs?
Fcuking whiners!
![[Image: MX22a4S.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/MX22a4S.jpg)
STop being a Coward
STOP your childish behaviorss and your lies
GO and be a Cleaner with your Daughter for 10 YEARS at the Hawker Center
and prove to me that you will be HAPPY
(29-10-2022, 11:46 AM)FartSunKing Wrote: [ -> ]Listen here all you stupid fcuks!
If your kid, a dropout after A levels like sgbuffett
Were to work as a cleaner the rest of his/her life in Singapore
They will have a MILLION in their CPF
When they are between 55 to PAP's reemployment age (67)
They can choose to continue cleaning tables or retire at home
Cleaning their own home, like what I will be doing today Saturday
Song boh?
You get angry over your own lies that you started?
Then you and your daughter go and be a Hawker Cleaner for 10 YEARS
to prove that you will be happy
Stop being childish and scold other people for your own actions and lies
(29-10-2022, 11:49 AM)FartSunKing Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry hor, no time to entertain whiners
Got to start cleaning my EXQUISITE RUGged ELEGANCE 5I HDB home NOW
After all your lies you just run away
like a Traitor from Malaysia
and now a Coward in SG
Shame on you!
Actually public transport should be free for the seniors, at least for certain hours of the day. That will relieve quite a bit of load on them.
(29-10-2022, 08:58 AM)Pass-by Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe the question should be why SG senior citizens cannot be like other countries where they can spend their retirement time walking in the garden and nature enjoying fresh air and not worried about their daily expanses.
Not possible. Pension crisis is coming. All countries elderly will face much lower living standard than what is now.
Sg may not that serious but certainly require part time job or short term job to ensure live style is sustainable.
There will be small number like FartSunKing not worried about their daily expanses.
That is reality.
(29-10-2022, 12:03 PM)watchfirst9 Wrote: [ -> ]Not possible. Pension crisis is coming. All countries elderly will face much lower living standard than what is now.
Sg may not that serious but certainly require part time job or short term job to ensure live style is sustainable.
There will be small number like FartSunKing not worried about their daily expanses.
That is reality.
Hv u been to Chengdu?
Go walk walk there for a week and see what u noticed about those over 50yo.
(29-10-2022, 12:03 PM)watchfirst9 Wrote: [ -> ]Not possible. Pension crisis is coming. All countries elderly will face much lower living standard than what is now.
Sg may not that serious but certainly require part time job or short term job to ensure live style is sustainable.
There will be small number like FartSunKing not worried about their daily expanses.
That is reality.
Other countries only need to import 10% of the foreign workforce
and tax them to feed the old
but PAP imported 35% foreigners without levies
and refuse to tax them as they are rich
(29-10-2022, 12:08 PM)Notdumb Wrote: [ -> ]Hv u been to Chengdu?
Go walk walk there for a week and see what u noticed about those over 50yo.
I saying coming decades not now.
Cn will raise their retirement age too.
(29-10-2022, 11:59 AM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: [ -> ]Actually public transport should be free for the seniors, at least for certain hours of the day. That will relieve quite a bit of load on them.
Go KTV, go massage beat aeroplane all should be free for seniors

Seeing the elderly as cleaners as Unesco Heritage Culture must be PaP’s plan for many years.
(29-10-2022, 12:31 PM)p1acebo Wrote: [ -> ]Go KTV, go massage beat aeroplane all should be free for seniors 
They can pcc at home lah.
(29-10-2022, 12:10 PM)Ola Wrote: [ -> ]Other countries only need to import 10% of the foreign workforce
and tax them to feed the old
but PAP imported 35% foreigners without levies
and refuse to tax them as they are rich
Not point increase levies, Sg govt need to set minimum wage.
PRs to define clearly as foreign.
Set ratio of foreigner to local per companies or organization clearly.
(29-10-2022, 09:05 AM)Scythian Wrote: [ -> ].
Better than jobless
Earning S$1500 - S$2500 a month not bad
Hardly anyone can get 2k. Mostly below.
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(29-10-2022, 12:24 PM)watchfirst9 Wrote: [ -> ]I saying coming decades not now.
Cn will raise their retirement age too.
That's not what I'm referring to.
Anyway under PAP greed..... there's no such thing as retirement. U work till death unless u rich like Jac.

(29-10-2022, 12:48 PM)webinarian Wrote: [ -> ]Hardly anyone can get 2k. Mostly below.
.If working and salary below min wages Gov will top up the balance that was what I heard from one cleaner who told me ,thus those $2k-2.5k may be possible...with Gov top up!...