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A missile that hit an apartment building in Ukraine's eastern city of Dnipro on Saturday has thus far killed 30 people, with some 40 others still unaccounted for, Dnipropetrovsk Governor Valentyn Reznichenko said on Sunday, reported DW, quoting news agencies AFP, dpa and Reuters.

Reznichenko said on his Telegram account that a search operation, ongoing for over 24 hours, has involved 550 people. They included rescuers, police officers, doctors and volunteers.

On Sunday, a 27-year-old woman was pulled out from under the rubble. She suffered from severe hypothermia and was taken to a hospital's intensive care unit for treatment, Reznichenko said.

The governor added that 39 residents of the struck building were rescued. Of the 73 people injured during the strike, 30 were hospitalized, including 12 with serious injuries.

Over 70 apartments were destroyed by the strike, which was carried out using a Russian Kh-22 missile, the Ukrainian armed force said. The missile is known to be inaccurate and Ukrainian forces lack the necessary air defense to shoot it down.

Zelensky Calls on Countries to Provide More Weapons to Ukraine After Deadly Dnipro Strike

Can more weapons stop the war?

Oh yes!

Add more fuel to put off the fire! 

Stupid civilians still don't run but support a fark up Gov....just like sinkees....never learn.

Zelensky is a clown. 
The west is enjoying his show. 
Add weapons to end the war? 
Must be a magician's joke.
Yet, he got what he wanted.
Dumb gets dumber.

if for sure biden n allies wont fight for ukraine.
the comedian should surrender. because putin not giving up.

That guy ex-comedian talks more and more like a US military person than the president of Ukraine....

https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraines-z...022-12-19/

Stooped so low for them to look down on him?

(16-01-2023, 12:54 PM)Migrant Wrote: [ -> ]Zelensky is a clown. 
The west is enjoying his show. 
Add weapons to end the war? 
Must be a magician's joke.
Yet, he got what he wanted.
Dumb gets dumber.

He is just a puppet serving American interests!

The more Zelensky screams for weapons, the more sympathy he loses from people.

Keep talking about wanting more weapons, practically demanding it as aid he and Ukraine is entitled to because "they're the ones fighting a war against Russia as a Western proxy", but still holding utterly unrealistic war aims like retaking the whole Crimea peninsula and Eastern Ukraine.

Given what the US has already given Ukraine so far, if Ukraine is still unable to win a counteroffensive meaningfully against Russia, it's entirely because the Ukrainian Armed Forces sucks.

There is no doubt that it was a Kh-22 missile," He emphasized that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have weapons capable of shooting down this type of missile.

According to the commander of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, more than 210 missiles of this type have been fired at the territory of Ukraine since the beginning of Russia's military aggression. None of them were shot down by air defense systems.

The weight of a Kh-22 warhead is about 950 kg. The maximum range is up to 600 km. When used from long distances, the deviation from the target can be hundreds of meters.

"Only anti-aircraft missile systems that may be provided to Ukraine by Western partners in the future (such as Patriot PAC-3 or SAMP-T) are capable of intercepting these air targets.


https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/365...nipro.html

Operational range: : PAC-1: 56 mi (90 km); PAC-2: 99 mi (160 km); PAC-3: 19 mi (30 ...

Unit cost: US$1 to 6 million

Service  US Army. Range: 43 miles

The Phased Array Tracking to Intercept of Target (PATRIOT) Advanced Capability-Three (PAC-3) program is an air-defense, guided missile system with long-range, medium- to high-altitude, all-weather capabilities. 

It is designed to counter tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and advanced aircraft. 

The combat element of the PATRIOT missile system is the fire unit, which consists of the following: a phased array radar set; an engagement control station; a battery command post; an electric power plant; an antenna mast group; a communications relay group; and launching stations with missiles.

The radar set provides the tactical functions of airspace surveillance, target detection, identification, classification, tracking, missile guidance, and engagement support. The ECS provides command and control. Depending upon configuration, the LS provides the platform for PAC-2 or PAC-3 missiles,

Govt of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) – Patriot PAC-3 ... The estimated cost is $2 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency

Singapore confirms delivery of Aster 30 missile with video post 

29 Mar 2018 — Singapore announced that it had ordered the Aster 30 SAMP/T in 2013 to replace the Raytheon MIM-23 Improved HAWK missiles currently

https://www.mbda-systems.com/product/aster-30-sampt/

(16-01-2023, 05:03 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote: [ -> ]Singapore confirms delivery of Aster 30 missile with video post 

29 Mar 2018 — Singapore announced that it had ordered the Aster 30 SAMP/T in 2013 to replace the Raytheon MIM-23 Improved HAWK missiles currently

https://www.mbda-systems.com/product/aster-30-sampt/

Fourteen tanks doesn’t sound like a lot?
It isn’t and 14 Challenger 2 tanks on their own are not going to win a war, but it’s the shift in direction that’s important.

Earlier this month, France, Germany and the United States respectively promised so-called “light tanks” – an unspecified number of French AMX-10 RC, 40 German Marder, and 50 Bradley fighting vehicles.

Just for a start...

Germany in particular had been reluctant to send fighting vehicles, but every time one of the NATO allies pledges a step up in the sort of weapons it...but the timing of the comments is important. 

They come ahead of a meeting this week of the Ukraine Defence Contact Group, which coordinates arms supplies to Kyiv, at Ramstein Air Base in Germany.

So there could be announcements of more weapons.

Patriot PAC-3: US govt is now considering sending to Ukraine so that Kyiv can intercept ballistic missiles. Politico reported. US’ Most Advanced PAC-3 Missile could change the Trend.

This week US and Ukraine Defence Contact Group, which coordinates arms supplies to Kyiv, is at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to meet on arms to Ukraine to fight off another 500,000 Putin new soldier.

(16-01-2023, 08:41 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote: [ -> ]Fourteen tanks doesn’t sound like a lot?
It isn’t and 14 Challenger 2 tanks on their own are not going to win a war, but it’s the shift in direction that’s important.

Earlier this month, France, Germany and the United States respectively promised so-called “light tanks” – an unspecified number of French AMX-10 RC, 40 German Marder, and 50 Bradley fighting vehicles.

Just for a start...

Germany in particular had been reluctant to send fighting vehicles, but every time one of the NATO allies pledges a step up in the sort of weapons it...but the timing of the comments is important. 

They come ahead of a meeting this week of the Ukraine Defence Contact Group, which coordinates arms supplies to Kyiv, at Ramstein Air Base in Germany.

So there could be announcements of more weapons.

Britain tanks, Challenger 2 to Ukraine to Russia's T90 tanks fight. A Part of Soledar has indeed fallen to Putin forces. As accounts from both sides have depicted a “hellish” battle, amid claims by some Ukrainian combatants that they have heard Putin sending  40,000 Russian and heard 10,000 Wagner fighters – many of them convicts recruited to fight  for the mining town... Soledar

https://youtu.be/4nxr2KaynZI

war here war there. made all price up and cost of living higher. better die more once and for all. made it worthy.

A clown will always be a clown.

(17-01-2023, 11:27 AM)jus4lucky Wrote: [ -> ]war here war there. made all price up and cost of living higher. better die more once and for all. made it worthy.

Russian newer missile caused heavy civilian toll in city of Dnipro

German defence minister resigns amid criticism over Ukraine arms

Germany pressured to allow exports of its tanks to Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/rus...023-01-16/

DNIPRO, Ukraine/KYIV, Jan 16 (Reuters) - The death toll from a Russian missile strike in the Ukrainian city of Dnipro rose to 40 on Monday, with dozens more missing, making it the deadliest civilian incident of Moscow's three-month campaign. (Reuters).

(17-01-2023, 11:32 AM)Gstalk Wrote: [ -> ]A clown will always be a clown.

Bakhmut and Soledar: a Perfect Storm Could Be Gathering. Time is of the essence, as Putin prepares to mobilize another 500,000 soldiers, in addition to the 300,000 called up in October 2023.

The dark heavy fog of and it is becoming increasingly clear all roads leading from Kyiv are strategically converging on Bakhmut and the small salt mining town of Soledar, 15 kilometers northeast of Bakhmut. Clashes of detached Russian and Ukrainian infantry along with exchanges of artillery fire are rapidly devolving into deadly street-to-street fighting, World War I-style trench warfare.

This unfolding fate is luring all competing forces and personalities in this 21st-century war into a perfect storm in and around Bakhmut and Soledar. While the ongoing battles will not determine the outcome of the war, the strategies giving rise to them in Kyiv, Moscow, and Washington might well be determinative. 

While Russian Putin, is ordeingr to retrieve his faltering “special military operation,” with new 500,000 to unleashing a calculated new level of attrition warfare by coldly ordering human waves of newly mobilized Russian conscripts to assault Ukrainian.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/11125

Since human life costs nothing in Russia, the Kremlin will try to win by using human wave attacks. Hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers will be killed for the sake of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin’s insane geopolitical gamble. 

In starting with prisoner first.

It is true that Russian conscripts’ motivation is worse than that of Ukrainian soldiers who defend their homeland. But the sheer number of Russian conscripts and the military experience that they’re getting do matter.

https://kyivindependent.com/opinion/oleg...ry-in-2023

(16-01-2023, 12:40 PM)Notdumb Wrote: [ -> ]Stupid civilians still don't run but support a fark up Gov....just like sinkees....never learn.

Hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers will be killed for the sake of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin’s insane geopolitical gamble.

https://kyivindependent.com/opinion/oleg...ry-in-2023

Although she did not give an exact date for the end of the military conflict,

she is said to have predicted peace would not be reached and till crying until 2027.

Only the 8th Ukrainian president will be able to save his country from disaster,” Baba Vanga, who died 25 years ago, reportedly said. Volodimir Zelenski is Ukraine’s 7th president since leaving the USSR.

https://kyivindependent.com/opinion/oleg...ry-in-2023

Many ppl dont know buying US weapons got 1 problem. You need to ask for permission.
They can switch off the GPS, your high tech weapons will be like a headless fly. 

US also fear their high tech weapons which they sold to other countries will be used to bomb their own ground.

China has learnt the lesson hard. This is why they built their own navigational system.

Dont laugh after you find out the answer!
子弹是谁生产的？

(16-01-2023, 04:20 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote: [ -> ]There is no doubt that it was a Kh-22 missile," He emphasized that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have weapons capable of shooting down this type of missile.

According to the commander of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, more than 210 missiles of this type have been fired at the territory of Ukraine since the beginning of Russia's military aggression. None of them were shot down by air defense systems.

The weight of a Kh-22 warhead is about 950 kg. The maximum range is up to 600 km. When used from long distances, the deviation from the target can be hundreds of meters.

"Only anti-aircraft missile systems that may be provided to Ukraine by Western partners in the future (such as Patriot PAC-3 or SAMP-T) are capable of intercepting these air targets.


https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/365...nipro.html

Zelensky Calls on Countries to Provide More Weapons to Ukraine After Deadly Dnipro Strike 

Can more weapons stop the war?, till 2027

Zelensky Calls on Countries to Provide More (New Weapons,) to Ukraine After Deadly Dnipro Strike

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60525350

(17-01-2023, 04:18 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote: [ -> ]Zelensky Calls on Countries to Provide More Weapons to Ukraine After Deadly Dnipro Strike 

Can more weapons stop the war?, till 2027

Zelensky Calls on Countries to Provide More (New Weapons,) to Ukraine After Deadly Dnipro Strike

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60525350

Plans to send German-made Leopard tanks, wait long long...    and yeah UK Challengers here am coming into Donbas have been greeted with visible excitement by Ukrainian forces, who have been taking heavy casualties in recent weeks and month, around Bakhmut, and, more particularly, during the ferocious struggle for the nearby town of Soledar.

"There were very heavy losses. It's very pitiful. It's hard," said Danylo, an officer in charge of repairing tanks for the 24th Mechanised Brigade. He said the current deadlock would not be broken unless foreign tanks arrived in significant numbers.

"Yes, we'll be stuck here. We need these [Western tanks] to stop Russia's aggression. With infantry, covered by tanks, we'll hope to win for sure," he said.

No tanks is coming "Leopards, Challengers, Abrams - no foreign tank is coming to for us!. We think we need at least 300. And we need them now!" said Bogdan.

The Ukrainians all acknowledged that Russia had more modern tanks but were scathing about their tactics. The Russian tanks are a bit better than ours T72. They're fully modernised, mostly Russians because they push forwards en masse, advancing over the bodies of their own soldiers. Our commanders care more about the lives of their crews, so we try to destroy [the enemy] while losing as few of our own men as possible," said Bogdan.

A more senior company commander in the 24th Brigade, with the code name Khan, took us to a rear position, past fresh trenches being dug in the fields by specialised machines, where several tanks were hidden under camouflage nin a wooded area.

(17-01-2023, 11:16 AM)Tee tiong huat Wrote: [ -> ]Patriot PAC-3: US govt is now considering sending to Ukraine so that Kyiv can intercept ballistic missiles. Politico reported. US’ Most Advanced PAC-3 Missile could change the Trend.

This week US and Ukraine Defence Contact Group, which coordinates arms supplies to Kyiv, is at Ramstein Air Base in Germany to meet on arms to Ukraine to fight off another 500,000 Putin new soldier.

I believe the Patriot PAC-3 missile is able to intercept Russia's missiles............

(17-01-2023, 04:54 PM)debono Wrote: [ -> ]I believe the Patriot PAC-3 missile is able to intercept Russia's missiles............

You believe?

Really? 

(16-01-2023, 12:32 PM)Dan Wrote: [ -> ]

A missile that hit an apartment building in Ukraine's eastern city of Dnipro on Saturday has thus far killed 30 people, with some 40 others still unaccounted for, Dnipropetrovsk Governor Valentyn Reznichenko said on Sunday, reported DW, quoting news agencies AFP, dpa and Reuters.

Reznichenko said on his Telegram account that a search operation, ongoing for over 24 hours, has involved 550 people. They included rescuers, police officers, doctors and volunteers.

On Sunday, a 27-year-old woman was pulled out from under the rubble. She suffered from severe hypothermia and was taken to a hospital's intensive care unit for treatment, Reznichenko said.

The governor added that 39 residents of the struck building were rescued. Of the 73 people injured during the strike, 30 were hospitalized, including 12 with serious injuries.

Over 70 apartments were destroyed by the strike, which was carried out using a Russian Kh-22 missile, the Ukrainian armed force said. The missile is known to be inaccurate and Ukrainian forces lack the necessary air defense to shoot it down.

Zelensky Calls on Countries to Provide More Weapons to Ukraine After Deadly Dnipro Strike

Can more weapons stop the war?

More countries are joining in the fight liao lah! Russia must be scared liao lah!

(17-01-2023, 05:38 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]More countries are joining in the fight liao lah! Russia must be scared liao lah!

Putin want more people to be kill in Ukraine.

A missile that hit an apartment building in Ukraine's eastern city of Dnipro on Saturday has thus far killed 40 people, with some 40 others still unaccounted...

(17-01-2023, 07:36 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote: [ -> ]Putin want more people to be kill in Ukraine.

A missile that hit an apartment building in Ukraine's eastern city of Dnipro on Saturday has thus far killed 40 people, with some 40 others still unaccounted...

Russia ‘terrorising’ Ukrainian civilians: Kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschko says Russian forces are “terrorising” Ukrainian civilians.

“The Russians are trying to attack critical infrastructure and destroy normal life [in Ukraine] by leaving people freezing cold in winter conditions,”

“This is terrorism be Putin and everyone who is involved in this senseless war [on the Russian side] must be held responsible [for it],” he said.

Dnipro mayor puts missile attack death toll at 44 people The death toll from a Russian missile attack on an apartment building in Dnipro has risen to 44 people, the central Ukrainian city’s mayor said.