A lot of testings are in Brazil. If it is from the institute, should be fine. If it is from their political figure, then it is questionable.
Still elderly should have 3 doses. It is not easy to test on human beings unless with consent.
(17-10-2021, 06:22 PM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]This news is reliable?
Inactivate vaccine is using whole virus protein.
Hence performance more consistent against variant.
Base on below around 70% effectiveness for 3 weeks apart 50.4% for 2 weeks apart.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-healt...NKBN29N141
Some variant higher some lower but range is not far.
(17-10-2021, 06:48 PM)watchfirst9 Wrote: [ -> ]Inactivate vaccine is using whole virus protein.
Hence performance more consistent against variant.
Base on below around 70% effectiveness for 3 weeks apart 50.4% for 2 weeks apart.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-healt...NKBN29N141
Some variant higher some lower but range is not far.
If this is true, mRNA vaccine can get ready to fold their business .
(17-10-2021, 08:41 PM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]If this is true, mRNA vaccine can get ready to fold their business .
m-RNA accines got angmoh politicians and their media to help them blow sky high form them.
Why isn't our govt changing their tack and giving our unvaxed elderly non-mRNA vaccination?
(17-10-2021, 08:45 PM)cityhantam Wrote: [ -> ]m-RNA accines got angmoh politicians and their media to help them blow sky high form them.
If it is proven that their antibodies test is not reliable gauge for the effectiveness for a vaccine to compare side by side, I hope there will be justice.
(17-10-2021, 08:48 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: [ -> ]Why isn't our govt changing their tack and giving our unvaxed elderly non-mRNA vaccination?
So far the science out there still support mRNA is better. Any China trying to make a mRNA also?
(17-10-2021, 08:48 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: [ -> ]Why isn't our govt changing their tack and giving our unvaxed elderly non-mRNA vaccination?
Our garment is playing it safe, and would want WHO to say that it is safe and effective for the fight against Covid-19 viruses...then and only then will they recommend the use of Sinovac or Sinopharm.......
(17-10-2021, 08:53 PM)debono Wrote: [ -> ]Our garment is playing it safe, and would want WHO to say that it is safe and effective for the fight against Covid-19 viruses...then and only then will they recommend the use of Sinovac or Sinopharm.......
If anything wrong they can push the blame to who.
(17-10-2021, 09:06 PM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]If anything wrong they can push the blame to who.
It is a tai chi game they are all playing....
(17-10-2021, 08:41 PM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]If this is true, mRNA vaccine can get ready to fold their business .
mRNA is more for therapy, useless as a vaccine with future variant
(17-10-2021, 09:11 PM)debono Wrote: [ -> ]It is a tai chi game they are all playing....
They dare not tank the responsible for making a decision. Last time, lky will make a decision based on his own judgement. If wrong later, also no one dare to challenge him, but he seldom make wrong decision.
(17-10-2021, 08:48 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: [ -> ]Why isn't our govt changing their tack and giving our unvaxed elderly non-mRNA vaccination?
they invest in mRNA companies. the devil is in the details
(17-10-2021, 08:41 PM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]If this is true, mRNA vaccine can get ready to fold their business .
Even if it is true, mRNA is here to stay lah. So much money poured into it. It is vaccine politics. Die die also must twist and turn to hype it up.
(17-10-2021, 08:51 PM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]So far the science out there still support mRNA is better. Any China trying to make a mRNA also?
"The science" is controlled by the ang moh media and pharma. Too many variables can be manipulated. Take it with a chunk of salt...
(17-10-2021, 09:14 PM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]They dare not tank the responsible for making a decision. Last time, lky will make a decision based on his own judgement. If wrong later, also no one dare to challenge him, but he seldom make wrong decision.
I admire LKY's wisdom, and that he seldom makes mistakes....he is very careful of what he says and do....
(17-10-2021, 09:14 PM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]They dare not tank the responsible for making a decision. Last time, lky will make a decision based on his own judgement. If wrong later, also no one dare to challenge him, but he seldom make wrong decision.
Yah, now it's all about covering their backside, making decisions that dun make sense just because some 'experts' say so, just so that they can push all the blame to the experts when things go wrong. One good example is the 'healthy no need to wear mask' message. It's totally absurd and even if they didn't have even mask they shouldn't discourage people from wearing them.
Nowadays you see al kinds of panels or task forces being formed, made up of 'experts' in their respective fields. The truth is, these experts always got it wrong because most of them didn't dare to take a view that they know will offend the govt.
(17-10-2021, 09:23 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: [ -> ]Yah, now it's all about covering their backside, making decisions that dun make sense just because some 'experts' say so, just so that they can push all the blame to the experts when things go wrong. One good example is the 'healthy no need to wear mask' message. It's totally absurd and even if they didn't have even mask they shouldn't discourage people from wearing them.
Nowadays you see al kinds of panels or task forces being formed, made up of 'experts' in their respective fields. The truth is, these experts always got it wrong because most of them didn't dare to take a view that they know will offend the govt.
The experts must be bold enough to offend the govt. In that case their views can be heard and worked upon...
(17-10-2021, 09:06 PM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]If anything wrong they can push the blame to who.
World class chenghu lead from behind
(17-10-2021, 09:23 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: [ -> ]Yah, now it's all about covering their backside, making decisions that dun make sense just because some 'experts' say so, just so that they can push all the blame to the experts when things go wrong. One good example is the 'healthy no need to wear mask' message. It's totally absurd and even if they didn't have even mask they shouldn't discourage people from wearing them.
Nowadays you see al kinds of panels or task forces being formed, made up of 'experts' in their respective fields. The truth is, these experts always got it wrong because most of them didn't dare to take a view that they know will offend the govt.
Dale Fisher is one such useless bugger
(17-10-2021, 09:23 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: [ -> ]Yah, now it's all about covering their backside, making decisions that dun make sense just because some 'experts' say so, just so that they can push all the blame to the experts when things go wrong. One good example is the 'healthy no need to wear mask' message. It's totally absurd and even if they didn't have even mask they shouldn't discourage people from wearing them.
Nowadays you see al kinds of panels or task forces being formed, made up of 'experts' in their respective fields. The truth is, these experts always got it wrong because most of them didn't dare to take a view that they know will offend the govt.
Those experts are just there to cheat money. Even GE also try to sweet talk their boss. What clean sweep etc.
(17-10-2021, 09:22 PM)debono Wrote: [ -> ]I admire LKY's wisdom, and that he seldom makes mistakes....he is very careful of what he says and do....
He made so many mistakes.... graduate mother scheme, rejected F1, Suzhou project failure, saying hdb price will never fall, what else?
No one is God. But he has the guts to make bold decisions.
(17-10-2021, 09:40 PM)RichDad Wrote: [ -> ]He made so many mistakes.... graduate mother scheme, rejected F1, Suzhou project failure, saying hdb price will never fall, what else?
No one is God. But he has the guts to make bold decisions.
His track record is very good already lah. I also can make no mistake if everything I say based on so called "current research or current data", anything wrong I say world change too rapidly and other excuses. Some worse say what depend on people. Or when execute tender to contractors, anything wrong go fine contractors.
(17-10-2021, 09:40 PM)RichDad Wrote: [ -> ]He made so many mistakes.... graduate mother scheme, rejected F1, Suzhou project failure, saying hdb price will never fall, what else?
No one is God. But he has the guts to make bold decisions.
But no one dares to chastises him.....
(17-10-2021, 09:46 PM)debono Wrote: [ -> ]But no one dares to chaises him.....
He dare to admit his mistakes. Do you dare to disturb him?
I like him. He protect the greeneries.
(17-10-2021, 08:41 PM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]If this is true, mRNA vaccine can get ready to fold their business .
(17-10-2021, 08:51 PM)dynamite Wrote: [ -> ]So far the science out there still support mRNA is better. Any China trying to make a mRNA also?
mRNA ones have faster build up of antibodies, but along with it more adverse effects.
P effectiveness is better only in first 5-6 months, after that is below to S and likes of AZ etc
M continue to perform better but due to higher dose.
We must know all vaccine works less well for elderly compare to younger.
China is also developing mRNA but doubt it have much takers.
Anyway inhale methods are the ones to watch next year,
it is known to be more effective and lower adverse effects.
(17-10-2021, 09:46 PM)debono Wrote: [ -> ]But no one dares to chaises him.....
He was PM. Same as pinky, who dare to F him?
I read only GKS dare to talk back to him in parliament. But then GKS is older and possibly wiser than him
(17-10-2021, 09:51 PM)RichDad Wrote: [ -> ]He was PM. Same as pinky, who dare to F him?
I read only GKS dare to talk back to him in parliament. But then GKS is older and possibly wiser than him
He has some capable people helping him also.