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SDP chair Paul Tambyah: CPIB investigations appear to need clearance from PM, says it may be time to set up an independent Ombudsman



https://theindependent.sg/sdp-chair-paul...ombudsman/

That is a very good point.

CPIB should be independent
...why do they need to get go ahead from PM

(14-07-2023, 11:35 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]That is a very good point.

CPIB should be independent
...why do they need to get go ahead from PM

proper channel based on SAF rules. 

you don't want your boss heard it from the press instead of his men.

boss got weak heart you know ?

PM Lee has to give approval for CPIB to investigate.
If he don't give approval investigation stops

Something is not right with this.

What if the PM or President (in the future) is the one that is to be investigated? Who approve then? No need to investigate?

Ah Shan already said don't need! Oops... He thereafter kena Ridout case lor... So need or don't need? Lol

Not independent enough

(14-07-2023, 11:45 AM)p1acebo Wrote: [ -> ]Not independent enough

you want HK TVB drama ICAC standard ? 

So who appoints CPIB head? The one that appoints the Head of CPIB will somehow give some advise and guidance to him/her. He can also sack the head of CPIB. So in the end come to square one.

Then who checks CPIB?

If CPIB becomes independent who will control them if they run amok and start doing things illegally or abuse power? ...

(14-07-2023, 11:51 AM)Gstalk Wrote: [ -> ]So who appoints CPIB head? The one that appoints the Head of CPIB will somehow give some advise and guidance to him/her. He can also sack the head of CPIB. So in the end come to square one.

sounds like conflict of interest.
HK ICAC can even investigate the CE.
CPIB performance really nothing compared to ICAC, KOM etc and now they let one of main suspects FLEE ? FISHY! 

(14-07-2023, 12:05 PM)Truebluesg Wrote: [ -> ]sounds like conflict of interest.
HK ICAC can even investigate the CE.
CPIB performance really nothing compared to ICAC, KOM etc and now they let one of main suspects FLEE ? FISHY! 

If I m not wrong one of the CE was jailed??...but not sure which onne

CPIB.
Corrupted Pap Investigation Board

(14-07-2023, 12:18 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]If I m not wrong one of the CE was jailed??...but not sure which onne

Donald Tsang

That means cpib cannot investigate pm since they need his approval....so he is above the law?

such lapse should be highlighted to the foreign media

Where's Schroder's report?

(14-07-2023, 11:42 AM)starbugs Wrote: [ -> ]What if the PM or President (in the future) is the one that is to be investigated? Who approve then? No need to investigate?

Agree. Current PAP has managed SG into among most developed/richest in the world (despite lacking land and resource etc).
However Oppos are critical to check and balance for long term stability.

(14-07-2023, 12:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]That means cpib cannot investigate pm since they need his approval....so he is above the law?

You hit the nail spot on

(14-07-2023, 11:50 AM)K88 shu shu Wrote: [ -> ]you want HK TVB drama ICAC standard ? 

You need the PM’s concurrence to investigate his Ministers.  And if he doesn’t concur?

https://tinyurl.com/mrx66787

(14-07-2023, 12:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]That means cpib cannot investigate pm since they need his approval....so he is above the law?

CPIB likely reports to PM Lee.

(14-07-2023, 12:18 PM)sgbuffett Wrote: [ -> ]If I m not wrong one of the CE was jailed??...but not sure which onne

THE ONE WHO WAHO WAS EX FINANCE CHIEF OF HK LATER VISITED SPORE BUT CANT TRY  BAK KU TEH HE WANTEDTHIS CE WAS JAILED BECOS ACCEPTED FAVOURS TO USE A BUNGALOW N A YATCH FR A TYCOON.

If PM did not give clearance, CPIB can go directly to President.

(14-07-2023, 03:49 PM)puntfast2 Wrote: [ -> ]If PM did not give clearance, CPIB can go directly to President.

President is selected by them you say leh?