(19-03-2025, 11:28 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Yap
They Cant stand the words in the Bible 
Refuse to accept the truth 
So they haven’t been set free 
No matter how they are rebellious 
Rebellious is under witchcraft 
😊

(19-03-2025, 11:42 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ahmad is Muhammad...The Quran says we can find the name Ahmad in our Bible ..  but till now still cannot find...

(19-03-2025, 11:40 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He claimed that his faith has instilled fearlessness in him, but I think he is still ball less.. He relies on SimTan for validation of his conduct, and so far, no one has stepped up to support him. He's looking for recognition and love in this forum because his God and religion have offered him none...

(19-03-2025, 12:09 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Yes he is balless threatened me with screen shot 
Some old  people usually no gut they fight with their mouth only 
If he wanted to find love he should believe the Bible is love from God
Lol

(19-03-2025, 01:26 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  For me it doesn't matter whether the sentence is written in the active voice (I forgive your sins) or in the passive voice (Your sins are forgiven {by Me}), there's no denying that Jesus is the Great Forgiver of humanity's sins, and is deserving of our praise and worship.

I've posted some scriptural passages attesting to the divinity of Christ but you chose to ignore them and you kept harping instead on the ambiguous wording of that prayerful John 17:3 verse in your vain attempt to disprove His divinity. There are more of such verses which I'll post from time to time.

Your thoughts articulated in your second paragraph is a bit muddled, esp the part where you say Christians sided with the Pharisees who accused Jesus of claiming to be God. Let me put my thoughts articulately into the debate between the Pharisees and Jesus about the significance of the Old Testament patriarch Abraham who was the father of the Israelite nation.

The Pharisees were convinced that all was right between them and God because they were physical descendants of Abraham. But Jesus burst their bubble by insisting that a person must be a spiritual descendant of Abraham by demonstrating the same obedience to God that Abraham did. "Surely You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died? the Pharisees asked (John 8:53). Jesus's answer sent them reeling, "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad" (v 56).

Now the Pharisees were utterly confused, "Abraham has been dead for almost two thousands years, and you aren't even fifty years. Yet you are claiming to have seen Abraham? How could that be? Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am" (v 58). Jesus wasn't only claiming to have lived prior to Abraham, but by using the phrase "I am" Jesus was making the ultimate declaration that He was in fact the God the Pharisees professed to love and worship.

Jesus's use of "I am" to describe His relationship with Abraham was not lost on the Pharisees, as shown by their violent reaction: Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him (John 8:59). With just two little words, Jesus was making the grandest pronouncement about Himself: "I am God."

Another example of Jesus claiming to be the one and only God of the OT was during His trial prior to His crucifixion. The high priest Caiaphas asked Jesus: "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One? (Mark 14:61). Jesus answered with the two words: "I am" (v 62). To drive His point home (as well as drive His accusers crazy), He quoted a passage from the book of Daniel: "And you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with clouds of heaven (Mark 14:62).

Of course, anyone can claim to be God, and your stock reply would be "A beggar claimed to be I am." The thing is, none of the other founders of major world religions ever did or ever linked someone's eternal well-being to their belief in that founder. But Jesus did. Even the Pharisees who worshiped the one true God, Yahweh, and attempted to follow His laws were not exempted from Jesus's condition for salvation: "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins" (John 8:24)

I'm a busy bee with many calls on my time, and so I don't have the luxury of time to discourse lengthily. After quietening down at night, I'll take a moment to read the postings before chiming in with my opinions. I hit the sack in the dead of the night.

(19-03-2025, 01:25 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Don't be foolish... Do you really need Jesus to explicitly say He is God in order to believe it? Using your reasoning and referring to the Quran, is Jesus referred to as the Word of God? Is He considered the Messiah? Please show me where Jesus say that He is the Messiah or the Word of God.

(19-03-2025, 02:54 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The king also no need to tell public he is a king whenever he is out tio BOH 
Queen Elizabeth visited other countries did she told people hey look! I m the queen bow down?
Even when Moses asked God who are you to tell the people 
God answered “I am that I am “never told Moses go tell people I m God 
when Jacob wrestled with God n asked His name
God asked Jacob why u want to know my name “I am who I am.
Even when people knocked my house door asked who is the owner 
I also told them owner not in,even I m the owner.
People asked me what car I driving I told them I take mrt.
This is humble,God hates the Proud.😊

(19-03-2025, 03:22 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  So you agreed the true God is in the Holy Bible.
lol

(19-03-2025, 02:54 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The king also no need to tell public he is a king whenever he is out tio BOH 
Queen Elizabeth visited other countries did she told people hey look! I m the queen bow down?
Even when Moses asked God who are you to tell the people 
God answered “I am that I am “never told Moses go tell people I m God 
when Jacob wrestled with God n asked His name
God asked Jacob why u want to know my name “I am who I am.
Even when people knocked my house door asked who is the owner 
I also told them owner not in,even I m the owner.
People asked me what car I driving I told them I take mrt.
This is humble,God hates the Proud.😊

(19-03-2025, 03:22 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  So you agreed the true God is in the Holy Bible.
lol

(19-03-2025, 03:31 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Very Good...so he agrees that he worships The Father, Yahweh...see he just committed Shirk...Allah can never be a Father in any sense 

(19-03-2025, 03:37 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Amazing! moslem worship Yahweh not allah 😊

(19-03-2025, 03:31 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Moslem said worship same God as in the bible n how come their teachings entirely different?

(19-03-2025, 03:47 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You raise an excellent point: why are their teachings so different, and why does God require His followers to learn Arabic in order to understand Him? 

God did not directly reveal the Quran to Muhammad; it has been altered and is therefore considered unreliable, as Satan influenced Muhammad to propagate falsehoods about the Quran.... Don forget Muhammad and the satanic verses

(19-03-2025, 04:04 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Christians believe the trinity
No way the moslem can falsify it
U don’t believe we care?

(19-03-2025, 04:00 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Lucifer wanted to be higher than God n was kicked out of heaven
If Koran is for the world should be in understandable words
Our Bible also got Chinese edition
How about theirs?

(19-03-2025, 04:00 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Lucifer wanted to be higher than God n was kicked out of heaven
If Koran is for the world should be in understandable words
Our Bible also got Chinese edition
How about theirs?

(19-03-2025, 04:41 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Jesus taught Trinity...only the fool does not see...Matthew 28:19-20

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

Can you cast a demon away in the name of Allah, Muhammad and Jibril? No! You can only cast away a demon with the name of the most high which is the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit...

And Yes...this proved that Jesus taught the Trinity..thank you

(19-03-2025, 04:48 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Bible is for mankind...the Quran is for Jinns and mankind...take it with a pinch of salt with what it has revealed...

(19-03-2025, 04:50 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Anything not in their Koran or Hadith they claim it’s false lah
😊

(19-03-2025, 04:53 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus taught the followers repent n be saved 
Their muh taught them more wives more merrier?lol

(19-03-2025, 04:53 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus taught the followers repent n be saved 
Their muh taught them more wives more merrier?lol

(19-03-2025, 05:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Muhammad taught his followers to have more wives, to keep female captives as sex slaves...to sell thêm and children as a mean to make money ...this is why many people flocked to this religion..because Muhammad made them feel powerful.....

These are the works of Satan my friend