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RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - pinkpanther - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 07:48 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I am not sure what he said coz I don't listen much to him.
He said that moslems simply parroted a common way of speaking about the Quran and saying " you know it is 100% the way it has always been with no variations or change whatsoever"
He continued to say it was not true with some other explanations
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
Just now saw a black cloud cross about to take pic it disappeared
Happened twice
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - pinkpanther - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 07:59 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Just now saw a black cloud cross about to take pic it disappeared
Happened twice
Means what? Small cloud?
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:01 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Means what? Small cloud?Not small nor big
Not sure means what lol
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Ali Imran - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 07:58 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: He said that moslems simply parroted a common way of speaking about the Quran and saying " you know it is 100% the way it has always been with no variations or change whatsoever"
He continued to say it was not true with some other explanations
Yes, there are variations in the recitation. Even the variations have been well-preserved.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Ali Imran - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 07:57 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Old man don’t believe Isaiah 9 is talking about Jesus
Then who you think isaiah is prophesying ?
Isaiah is not my book. So I don't need to know. I don't have to know.
All I did was to question your take on Isaiah 9 and you cannot answer.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - pinkpanther - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:04 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yes, there are variations in the recitation. Even the variations have been well-preserved.
I will grant you that..Shabir Ally goes on to say that there is an erased manuscripts and some people wrote something over it showing that there is significant variations
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
Not your book question me for what ?since u don’t believe it. Kapo!
We believe our book is it your business?
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Ali Imran - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: I will grant you that..Shabir Ally goes on to say that there is an erased manuscripts and some people wrote something over it showing that there is significant variations
That is referring to the Sanaa manuscript.
Remember, the Quran is a recitation, memorized by Muslims right from the very beginning. Scribes may make errors when putting the Quran on paper.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Ali Imran - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:09 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Not your book question me for what ?since u don’t believe it. Kapo!
We believe our book is it your business?
Well, this is a forum. You put forth your belief, and I question it.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
Old man can’t answer about his Koran teachings when asked by pink
Dare to question our book?
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Ali Imran - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:11 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Old man can’t answer about his Koran teachings when asked by pink
Dare to question our book?
I've answered.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
If I put sai u also want to eat?
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
U never answered pink question all u did was called him a liar!
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Ali Imran - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:12 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: If I put sai u also want to eat?
You did exactly that when you put forth your belief in Isaiah 9 and I immediately rejected it.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
Of course you don’t believe
U feel heart pain when mentioned Jesus is God
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Ali Imran - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:13 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: U never answered pink question all u did was called him a liar!
When he said our esteemed Imams taught us that we should kill non-Muslims all over the word, he is either mistaken or he purposely lied.
I gave him the chance to choose which, a mistake or a lie.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Ali Imran - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:14 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Of course you don’t believe
U feel heart pain when mentioned Jesus is God
No, I don't feel anything.
I just want to correct you.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
U think u are God correct us?
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
Jealous angry cannot take it
Stay by all day to attack
If you mention Jesus is God
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Ali Imran - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:17 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: U think u are God correct us?
LOL
No, of course not. I am a mortal. God alone is immortal, meaning God cannot die.
So why do you believe God died? If you say only the man died, that means it is not a divine sacrifice. You believe you need divine sacrifice for your sins to be erased.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - pinkpanther - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:10 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: That is referring to the Sanaa manuscript.
Remember, the Quran is a recitation, memorized by Muslims right from the very beginning. Scribes may make errors when putting the Quran on paper.
Thank you for speaking to Jesus is our Lord and Savior..
While most Muslims believe the Quran has been preserved in its original form, critics have raised concerns about the authenticity and accuracy of its current text. Yaqeen Institute for Islamic Research cites the traditional view that the Quran has been preserved, while Universitas Gadjah Mada acknowledges that variations in text have been observed in ancient copies.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Ali Imran - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:18 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Jealous angry cannot take it
Stay by all day to attack
If you mention Jesus is God
Today was a really busy day for me. Every year, immediately after the exams in schools in Singapore, I will be super busy.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Ali Imran - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:20 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Thank you for speaking to Jesus is our Lord and Savior..
While most Muslims believe the Quran has been preserved in its original form, critics have raised concerns about the authenticity and accuracy of its current text. Yaqeen Institute for Islamic Research cites the traditional view that the Quran has been preserved, while Universitas Gadjah Mada acknowledges that variations in text have been observed in ancient copies.
You should stop using mocking emojis.
Anyhow, EVERY Muslim will tell you that the Quran is perfectly preserved. Yes, you heard me. I said EVERY.
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
Busy attacking us lah
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
Who proof u have to claim your Koran is preserved ?
I don’t believe it!
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - pinkpanther - 21-05-2025
(21-05-2025, 08:23 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You should stop using mocking emojis.
Anyhow, EVERY Muslim will tell you that the Quran is perfectly preserved. Yes, you heard me. I said EVERY.
I will not agree.
the complacency of every moslem parroting the same message without studying in details
The fact that the Quran has textual variants and alterations suggest that it is not well preserved
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RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
https://youtube.com/shorts/IdjAMe09QLY?si=rpYwnLKSyXpCg7_0
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - Lukongsimi - 21-05-2025
https://youtu.be/qrTR4Tmjk2c?si=2oKvtiflryvUtSpk
RE: Scripture readings for Christmas - pinkpanther - 21-05-2025
Yasir Qadhi an Islamic scholar has doubt in Islam regarding the preservation of the Quran