(24-07-2025, 09:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Were the Pharisees Israelites?

(24-07-2025, 07:35 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Bible emphasizes that spiritual inheritance and being part of God's people are open to anyone through faith, making it possible for anyone to be considered a descendant of Jacob in a spiritual sense.

Isaac was born before Jacob and surely hệ has faith and obedience to be considered as an israelite  and he is the forefather of israelites

(25-07-2025, 08:09 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm sure you consider yourself God's people. Are you an Israelite too?

(25-07-2025, 09:06 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I'm under the Jesus's New convenant. We believe we are part of God's covenant with Abraham, not through physical descent, but through faith in Jesus Christ.

(25-07-2025, 09:11 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So you're an Israelite?

(25-07-2025, 09:17 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No. Is ishmael an israelite?

(25-07-2025, 09:17 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No. Is ishmael an israelite?

(25-07-2025, 09:32 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So, the enemies of Jesus, the Pharisees, were also Israelites.

That means being an Israelite doesn't automatically make one blessed.

(25-07-2025, 09:39 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Ishmael was a heber

His followers are mostly Arabs

(25-07-2025, 09:53 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Isaac is the chosen heir of God's covenant with Abraham, while Ishmael, while also blessed, is not given the same covenantal status

(25-07-2025, 09:57 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Because Ismael was born of the maid servant not same as Sarah 
Whom God has chosen a son for her.

(25-07-2025, 09:53 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Isaac is the chosen heir of God's covenant with Abraham, while Ishmael, while also blessed, is not given the same covenantal status

(25-07-2025, 10:31 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  As we can already see, being an Israelite doesn't mean much. It doesn't mean one will automatically be a God-fearing person. The proof can be seen by reading the Gospels, what Jesus pbuh said about the Pharisees, who were Israelites.

(25-07-2025, 09:37 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  In John 10:30, Jesus said, “I and the Father are one

(25-07-2025, 11:00 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Being an israelite means that you are blessed by God in many ways...but it doesnt mean you can get away with disobedience...

(25-07-2025, 11:47 AM)Hope Wrote:  What are those ways?

(25-07-2025, 12:19 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  One of God's promises is the Land of Canaan which is modern day Palestine..

(25-07-2025, 12:21 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Canaan was the Promised Land that God had promised the Israelites lah!  The Israelites had to totally destroy all the nations within the promised land but they did not lah! That's why now got problems lah!

(25-07-2025, 12:19 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  One of God's promises is the Land of Canaan which is modern day Palestine..

(25-07-2025, 12:21 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Canaan was the Promised Land that God had promised the Israelites lah!  The Israelites had to totally destroy all the nations within the promised land but they did not lah! That's why now got problems lah!

(25-07-2025, 12:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes lah... so Moslems find themselves caught in a dilemma....whether to support God's promise or to stand by their fellow brothers.

(25-07-2025, 11:42 AM)Hope Wrote:  Act 2:22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know

(25-07-2025, 10:28 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Hagar was the wife of Prophet Abraham, pbuh.

(25-07-2025, 08:34 AM)Hope Wrote:  Act 2:22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know