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Crazy' to argue that S'pore's civil service can continue being good - Bigiron - 05-11-2023
'Crazy' to argue that S'pore's civil service can continue being good without good political leaders at the helm: PM Lee
"It is like an orchestra: It may be composed of the best musicians in the world, but without a good conductor it cannot produce great music," Mr Lee said.
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RE: Crazy' to argue that S'pore's civil service can continue being good - [[ForeverAlone]] - 05-11-2023
Than how to explain why so many civil servant even teachers can be corrupted ?
And TCJ case ?
Iswaran case also still on going take so long ?
Under PM lee in charge so many inner flaws happen inside civil services
Means he cannot make it unlike his dad LKY
RE: Crazy' to argue that S'pore's civil service can continue being good - forum456 - 05-11-2023
similarly, 'Crazy' to argue that S'pore's good political leaders can continue being good without good opposition leaders at the helm'
RE: Crazy' to argue that S'pore's civil service can continue being good - Blasterlord2 - 05-11-2023
His argument is only partially true. With an average minister and an efficient civil service, the state of affairs will be kept going relatively smooth for some time (or it will appear to be smooth), before everything finally collapes.
If the civil service is inefficient, then it takes a competent minister to turn it around.
The current state is that of the former case. Some ministers are not outstanding but the civil service is ok (actually not very efficient either).
RE: Crazy' to argue that S'pore's civil service can continue being good - jus4lucky - 06-11-2023
too expensive for these mediocre standard. since they want to increased so many thing to affect our cost of living. they.must also do something worth. to me they are worthless.
RE: Crazy' to argue that S'pore's civil service can continue being good - ArielCasper - 06-11-2023
If like that no need auditor liao. Since we got 'good leaders' at the helm
RE: Crazy' to argue that S'pore's civil service can continue being good - applepiegal - 06-11-2023
(06-11-2023, 05:20 AM)jus4lucky Wrote: too expensive for these mediocre standard. since they want to increased so many thing to affect our cost of living. they.must also do something worth. to me they are worthless.
RE: Crazy' to argue that S'pore's civil service can continue being good - starbugs - 06-11-2023
This is the first time that I have heard of this argument. Did he come up with it himself and then try to pin it on the opposition?
RE: Crazy' to argue that S'pore's civil service can continue being good - Oasis - 06-11-2023
(05-11-2023, 09:37 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: His argument is only partially true. With an average minister and an efficient civil service, the state of affairs will be kept going relatively smooth for some time (or it will appear to be smooth), before everything finally collapes.Alarmak, it takes both hands to clap.
If the civil service is inefficient, then it takes a competent minister to turn it around.
The current state is that of the former case. Some ministers are not outstanding but the civil service is ok (actually not very efficient either).
Transport minister is now under CPIB investigation, the whole ministry does not collapse.
Malaysia PM Anwar can make Malaysia Great? Are you saying he is not a good leader? His civil servants strongly support him to reduce corruption?
RM exchange rate getting better?
What happen to Ukraine now?
Who is the President, the leader,?
LKY had a strong team of civil servants
and he had built a strong foundation for Singapore.
Choose wrong leader? Will Singapore still be a developed country?
Let LW continue to make Singapore "Great"