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UK submarines & special forces race against Russians to recover crashed F-35 jet - Levin - 18-11-2021
By MARK NICOL, DEFENCE EDITOR FOR THE DAILY MAIL and JACK WRIGHT FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 22:01 GMT, 17 November 2021 | UPDATED: 12:00 GMT, 18 November 2021
- An RAF pilot was forced to eject over the Mediterranean, sending £100million stealth jet crashing into the sea
- F-35B Lightning ditched into sea soon after taking off from Navy's HMS Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier
- By plunging into international waters, the crash triggered a scramble to recover the next-generation jet
- The operation, shrouded in secrecy, is understood to involve divers and miniature submarines
- Jet's technology allows it to fly 'unseen' in hostile territory at supersonic speeds
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This week's crash raises fresh questions about the F-35B, of which Britain currently has 24. The UK is set to buy 138 of the fighter jets from US aviation giant Lockheed Martin for £9.1billion in the coming years, with 48 of those expected to be delivered by 2025.
In June 2014 a USAF F-35A had a catastrophic engine fire caused by a fractured rotor which saw it turn into a blaze as it took off in Florida. Two years later a US Marine Corp F-35B set alight mid-flight due to a fire in its weapons bay.
In 2018, a US F-35B pilot was forced to eject midair after the fighter jet crashed in South Carolina during a training exercise. And last year, an F-35B aircraft crashed near Naval Air Facility El Centro in California after crashing into a KC-130J, US officials told USNI News.
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America enticed its Nato and other allies into sharing the cost of the aircraft by offering input into manufacture and 15 per cent of each one is comprised of parts from British companies while some of the jets will be made in Italy.
But the planes have been plagued by a catalogue of problems which have sent costs soaring.
There are fears about shortcomings in the technical systems underpinning the new generation of war planes will leave them unable to function properly.
The true cost of the British planes delivered this year is estimated to be over £150million each to cover 'extras' such as software upgrades and spare parts. There are also concerns plane's software system is vulnerable to cyber-attack and cannot be tested independently by the UK.
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In a mock air battle in 2015, the cutting edge plane was defeated by an older generation F-16, a plane designed in the 1970s.
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In 2020 Pentagon tests found 276 different faults in jet's combat system. They included the 25mm cannon vibrating excessively and problems with the he aircraft's 'virtual reality' helmet. Overheating, premature wear of components in the vertical tails and vulnerability to fire were also found to be issues.
The US Air Force temporarily grounded dozens its F-35 stealth fighters while it investigated an oxygen supply issue.
The Marine Corps, who also operate the same F-35B model the UK has purchased, was forced to ground its planes after flaws were found in the computer system.
Lots more information such as map, F-35B info diagram etc in long report at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10214377/Navy-rushes-recover-100m-F-35B-jet-sea-bed-pilot-ditched.html
RE: UK submarines & special forces race against Russians to recover crashed F-35 jet - Sticw - 18-11-2021
I want to find the jet now!
Sir, we can't locate it.
Why?
Cos the stealth mode is passive...
Radio signal?
Sir, radio signal can't be detected underwater...
The subs should be able to see it?
Sir, the subs are slow. The commander doesn't want to bang into something and lose his job and pension.
Guess we will just circle around to prevent the Russians from getting here.
Sir, no worries about that, we got our sights on the Russians!
Good job! At least a good news to report.
Sir, you may not want to report it.
Why not?
Sir, cos the Russians are circling around us...
RE: UK submarines & special forces race against Russians to recover crashed F-35 jet - singlon - 18-11-2021
It a great joke such toy is of interest to Putin
ya it is good to take a peek
Russia can destroy any in less than 15 minutes
RE: UK submarines & special forces race against Russians to recover crashed F-35 jet - debono - 18-11-2021
(18-11-2021, 09:05 PM)singlon Wrote: It a great joke such toy is of interest to Putin
ya it is good to take a peek
Russia can destroy any in less than 15 minutes
Does Russia have a aircraft that is equal to the F-35...?
RE: UK submarines & special forces race against Russians to recover crashed F-35 jet - amata - 18-11-2021
(18-11-2021, 09:28 PM)debono Wrote: Does Russia have a aircraft that is equal to the F-35...?
equal to F-35's crashing performance? you dotard are using your syonan karchng to think and talk again? lol
RE: UK submarines & special forces race against Russians to recover crashed F-35 jet - singlon - 19-11-2021
(18-11-2021, 09:28 PM)debono Wrote: Does Russia have a aircraft that is equal to the F-35...?
Russia can do anything cheaply.
F-35 is an expensive toy.
Even in weather warfare Russia is not behind.
For ex. Russia prevented Radiation going into China from Fukushima incident.