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Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - Bigiron - 07-01-2024
S’porean: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically’
https://theindependent.sg/sporean-most-sg-problems-could-be-resolved-if-we-reduce-the-population-drastically/
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - watchfirst9 - 07-01-2024
Anna Maria Romero
As seen in: MSN Singapore, Free Malaysia Today, The Independent (Singapore), AsiaToday, UK Daily News Online, Canada Travel Daily, Singapore Business Channel, Singapore News Digest, Tech Times Singapore, Singapore Cultural Journal and more
the editor is Sporean?
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - whylah - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 05:55 PM)Bigiron Wrote: S’porean: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically’
101% agreed
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - Alice Alicia - 07-01-2024
Most problems solved if Pinky's gone for good.
And I mean for good.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - Blasterlord2 - 07-01-2024
Old problems will disappear but new ones will appear. Reducing the population is not the medicine but increasing our population at lightning speed is the problem.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - RiseofAsia - 07-01-2024
Sg is farking crowded.
Now with poor planning, the situation even worse.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - Manthink - 07-01-2024
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RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - RiseofAsia - 07-01-2024
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RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - RiseofAsia - 07-01-2024
Latest figure, even worse.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-by-density
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - sgbuffett - 07-01-2024
The PAP will just do the opposite and deepen the problems then blame Singaporeans for not adapting well to rising COE and cost of living.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - forum456 - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 05:55 PM)Bigiron Wrote: S’porean: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically’
reducing population or change speed of population growth is not the problem.
the real problem is Singaporeans do not come first for PAP.
our population can grow fast as long as all Singaporeans come first.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - forum456 - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 08:28 PM)forum456 Wrote: reducing population or change speed of population growth is not the problem.
the real problem is Singaporeans do not come first for PAP.
our population can grow fast as long as all Singaporeans come first.
for example, in Western countries, there are laws that the companies must show proof that they cannot find local applicants before they can employ foreigners.
in Singapore, there is no such law for Singaporeans to come first.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - sgh - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 08:35 PM)forum456 Wrote: for example, in Western countries, there are laws that the companies must show proof that they cannot find local applicants before they can employ foreigners.
in Singapore, there is no such law for Singaporeans to come first.
Errr... actually recently they did have such law already. But employers play game lor. List job for X days as required by mom and then interview a few local and then tell mom cannot find a match fit need foreigner and govt is pro employer mah so ok lor
And strangely once allowed the foreigner come in just nice. Why? Because they already have in mind the foreigner so plan backwards the X days. Once period pass just nice can apply and come in. This is verified by the foreigner once he work in Spore. A story told by a reader in another forum where he work with that foreigner. Foreigner told him actually he is already employed X days prior to that but was told to wait.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - forum456 - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 08:39 PM)sgh Wrote: Errr... actually recently they did have such law already. But employers play game lor. List job for X days as required by mom and then interview a few local and then tell mom cannot find a match fit need foreigner and govt is pro employer mah so ok lor
And strangely once allowed the foreigner come in just nice. Why? Because they already have in mind the foreigner so plan backwards the X days. Once period pass just nice can apply and come in. This is verified by the foreigner once he work in Spore. A story told by a reader in another forum where he work with that foreigner. Foreigner told him actually he is already employed X days prior to that but was told to wait.
there is no such singapore law or singapore law is full of loopholes.
for example, especially in the singapore banking industry, in one department, you can easily find majority of the people are foreigners or out of 10 persons, at least 7 persons are foreigners.
in western countries, the laws are so strict that majority of people in one department are locals.
the law must have the effect that majority of staff in one department must be locals.
there is no point having millions of laws but the majority of the staff in one department are foreigners.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - sgh - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 08:52 PM)forum456 Wrote: there is no such singapore law or singapore law is full of loopholes.
for example, especially in the singapore banking industry, in one department, you can easily find majority of the people are foreigners or out of 10 persons, at least 7 persons are foreigners.
in western countries, the laws are so strict that majority of people in one department are locals.
the law must have the effect that majority of staff in one department must be locals.
there is no point having millions of laws but the majority of the staff in one department are foreigners.
There is such a law. Must list the job in a govt career website for X days before can apply for foreigner. Your sentence should be law exist but loopholes exploited.
And yes there is quota for every Sporean employed then allowed to employ work pass for how many foreigner. The argument lies in how is this percentage determined based on the profession etc
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - forum456 - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 09:04 PM)sgh Wrote: There is such a law. Must list the job in a govt career website for X days before can apply for foreigner. Your sentence should be law exist but loopholes exploited.
And yes there is quota for every Sporean employed then allowed to employ work pass for how many foreigner. The argument lies in how is this percentage determined based on the profession etc
during covid, PAP changed X days to 4 weeks.
after covid, PAP changed X days to 2 weeks.
2 weeks are too short to confirm that they cannot find locals.
this is rubbish law.
need to change to 3 months for X days.
in western countries, their X days are a few months.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - Niubee - 07-01-2024
Go back 3m population will be good.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - Manthink - 09-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 06:34 PM)watchfirst9 Wrote: Anna Maria Romero
As seen in: MSN Singapore, Free Malaysia Today, The Independent (Singapore), AsiaToday, UK Daily News Online, Canada Travel Daily, Singapore Business Channel, Singapore News Digest, Tech Times Singapore, Singapore Cultural Journal and more
the editor is Sporean?
The author is not a SGrean - she can contribute greatly by getting the F*ck off SG herself.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - EvertonDiehard - 09-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 08:28 PM)forum456 Wrote: reducing population or change speed of population growth is not the problem.
the real problem is Singaporeans do not come first for PAP.
our population can grow fast as long as all Singaporeans come first.
For those who travel frequently, you will notice that in the major cities like London, New York, Toronto, Melbourne, Sydney etc., foreigners from Third World Countries are driving taxis and Uber - doing jobs that locals shun. However, in S'pore, it's the opposite with laid off white collar citizens driving cabs and PHVs while foreign PMEs displace them at the workplace. The Govt is responsible for this sad state of affairs.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - EvertonDiehard - 09-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 10:21 PM)Niubee Wrote: Go back 3m population will be good.
With the current 6 million population, S'pore is the most densely populated country on earth. There are far too many people chasing for far too few homes and cars, thereby making both the most expensive in this world.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - EvertonDiehard - 09-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 08:12 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote: Sg is farking crowded.
Now with poor planning, the situation even worse.
An ideal population size for S'pore is 3.5 million residents. The Govt must send the remaining 2.5 million (foreigners and even PRs) out of this island.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - Wy:Nox - 09-01-2024
We must remove 30 PaP Ministers so that we can see improvement in Town Council, HDB etc
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - A2Z - 09-01-2024
Textbook economics increased population chasing after limited supplies equals higher demand/prices.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - RiseofAsia - 09-01-2024
(09-01-2024, 01:10 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote: An ideal population size for S'pore is 3.5 million residents. The Govt must send the remaining 2.5 million (foreigners and even PRs) out of this island.
Must be out of top 20. We are now at top 2.
人满为患，迟早遭殃。
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - EvertonDiehard - 09-01-2024
(09-01-2024, 01:15 PM)Wy:Nox Wrote: We must remove 30 PaP Ministers so that we can see improvement in Town Council, HDB etc
Remove the politicians who give jobs to foreigners and force locals to perform NS. That is reverse discrimination and even treason.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - Sticw - 09-01-2024
Singapore no such foreigner problem cos they enter into employment, then very quickly they become PR and they are taken out of the foreigner pool into local pool since govt defined local as inclusive of PR. See the problem solved with a stroke of the pen?
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - EvertonDiehard - 09-01-2024
(09-01-2024, 03:05 PM)Sticw Wrote: Singapore no such foreigner problem cos they enter into employment, then very quickly they become PR and they are taken out of the foreigner pool into local pool since govt defined local as inclusive of PR. See the problem solved with a stroke of the pen?
This is the way SG "naturalises" many Ceca so that more of their countrymen may follow them here to places like Chennai Business Park and Delhi Bank S'pore.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - EvertonDiehard - 09-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 07:26 PM)Alice Alicia Wrote: Most problems solved if Pinky's gone for good. And I mean for good.
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - EvertonDiehard - 09-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 07:51 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote: Old problems will disappear but new ones will appear. Reducing the population is not the medicine but increasing our population at lightning speed is the problem.
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Many of these "S'poreans" are actually new citizens from India
RE: Most SG problems could be resolved ‘if we reduce the population drastically - sclim - 09-01-2024
don;t be silly to think of reducing populations. we need more people who are naturalised. maybe 40m. but our island cannnot handle it. so around 6m maybe nice already.
sure some old time architects think the 50 story building can house more then 6m. but if all come to ground level at the same time, it will be body to body stacking together. worse if all go orchard rd.