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Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Bigiron - 26-09-2024
Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post
Meta AI: The People's Action Party (PAP) in Singapore has a history of appointing former Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) generals to executive posts, particularly in statutory boards, government-linked companies, and even politics. This practice is often referred to as "parachuting" or "secondment."
Reasons:
1. Leadership skills: SAF generals possess strong leadership, strategic thinking, and problem-solving skills, honed through military experience.
2. National service: Military service is highly valued in Singapore, and SAF generals embody this spirit.
3. Technocratic expertise: Many SAF generals have technical expertise, gained through military education and experience.
4. Loyalty and integrity: SAF generals are perceived as loyal and trustworthy, having served the nation.
5. Network and connections: SAF generals have established networks within the government, military, and business sectors.
Examples:
1. Former Chief of Defence Force, Ng Jui Ping, became CEO of Singtel.
2. Former Chief of Army, Desmond Kuek, became CEO of SMRT.
3. Former Chief of Air Force, Lim Kim Choon, became Director of Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore.
Benefits:
1. Enhanced governance: SAF generals bring discipline and organizational skills.
2. Strategic thinking: Military experience fosters strategic planning and execution.
3. National unity: Appointing SAF generals promotes national cohesion.
Criticisms:
1. Limited private sector experience: Some argue SAF generals lack commercial expertise.
2. Over-reliance on military background: Critics suggest this perpetuates a "military elite" culture.
3. Meritocracy concerns: Some question whether appointments are based solely on merit.
Debate:
The practice sparks debate about:
1. Meritocracy vs. Cronyism
2. Military dominance in civilian spheres
3. Diversity and inclusivity in leadership
The PAP's approach reflects Singapore's unique context, emphasizing nat
ional security, stability, and effective governance.
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Bigiron - 26-09-2024
Here are more examples of former Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) generals holding executive posts:
*Government-Linked Companies:*
1. Ng Yat Chung (Former Chief of Navy): CEO, Singtel
2. Desmond Kuek (Former Chief of Army): Former CEO, SMRT
3. Lim Kim Choon (Former Chief of Air Force): Former Director, Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore
4. Bey Soo Khiang (Former Chief of Defence Force): Chairman, ST Engineering
5. Tan Meng Dui (Former Chief of Navy): CEO, ST Marine
*Statutory Boards:*
1. Lee Hsien Yang (Former Brigadier-General): Chairman, SingBridge (formerly known as Singbridge Holdings Pte Ltd)
2. Wong Yan Loong (Former Major-General): Former CEO, Urban Redevelopment Authority
3. Tan Kok Yam (Former Brigadier-General): Deputy CEO, National Research Foundation
*Politics:*
1. Chan Chun Sing (Former Major-General): Minister for Trade and Industry
2. Ng Chee Meng (Former Brigadier-General): Minister for Education (Schools)
3. Tan Chuan-Jin (Former Brigadier-General): Speaker of Parliament
*Other Organizations:*
1. Lim Neo Chian (Former Major-General): Chairman, Singapore Aerospace and Defence Industries Association
2. Chong Yew Mun (Former Rear-Admiral): CEO, Singapore Maritime Institute
3. Ong Kong Eng (Former Brigadier-General): Executive Director, Singapore Science Centre
These appointments reflect the Singapore government's emphasis on leveraging military experience and expertise in leadership positions.
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - EvertonDiehard - 26-09-2024
There is a risk-averse culture in the SAF owing to the scrutiny that decisions are under in a rigid hierarchical system, while there is more of a risk management culture in the private sector. This makes it imperative for former military leaders to apply and adapt the unique skills they learned in the army into a different environment. Senior military officers may know how to manage large resources and deploy budgets. However, they do not have the same grasp of the profit motive.
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Huliwang - 26-09-2024
Most important is these people with their followers will contribute to the vote counts of PAP in GE.
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - EvertonDiehard - 26-09-2024
The armed forces and corporate sectors have different priorities which affect the attitudes and psychology of senior management, reinforcing worries about the suitability of former military leaders to make a successful crossover.
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - EvertonDiehard - 26-09-2024
(26-09-2024, 09:01 AM)Huliwang Wrote: Most important is these people with their followers will contribute to the vote counts of PAP in GE.
This is why S'pore ranks so highly in the world crony capitalism index:
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RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - ODA TETSURO - 26-09-2024
Military people can guai guai follow orders, so Lee Hsien Loong prefer them.
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - watchfirst9 - 26-09-2024
(26-09-2024, 08:41 AM)Bigiron Wrote: Here are more examples of former Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) generals holding executive posts:
*Government-Linked Companies:*
1. Ng Yat Chung (Former Chief of Navy): CEO, Singtel
2. Desmond Kuek (Former Chief of Army): Former CEO, SMRT
3. Lim Kim Choon (Former Chief of Air Force): Former Director, Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore
4. Bey Soo Khiang (Former Chief of Defence Force): Chairman, ST Engineering
5. Tan Meng Dui (Former Chief of Navy): CEO, ST Marine
*Statutory Boards:*
1. Lee Hsien Yang (Former Brigadier-General): Chairman, SingBridge (formerly known as Singbridge Holdings Pte Ltd)
2. Wong Yan Loong (Former Major-General): Former CEO, Urban Redevelopment Authority
3. Tan Kok Yam (Former Brigadier-General): Deputy CEO, National Research Foundation
*Politics:*
1. Chan Chun Sing (Former Major-General): Minister for Trade and Industry
2. Ng Chee Meng (Former Brigadier-General): Minister for Education (Schools)
3. Tan Chuan-Jin (Former Brigadier-General): Speaker of Parliament
*Other Organizations:*
1. Lim Neo Chian (Former Major-General): Chairman, Singapore Aerospace and Defence Industries Association
2. Chong Yew Mun (Former Rear-Admiral): CEO, Singapore Maritime Institute
3. Ong Kong Eng (Former Brigadier-General): Executive Director, Singapore Science Centre
These appointments reflect the Singapore government's emphasis on leveraging military experience and expertise in leadership positions.
They hold Sg secrets lah, of course have to give them some jobs after their military retirement.
As for what kind of post is debatable. Need few years more to polish their resume before promoting to CEO post would be more ideal.
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Sharexchange - 26-09-2024
They aee obedient soldiers. Got secret to keep from public they will keep it good. Trusted.
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Alice Alicia - 26-09-2024
Prove once again that pap is a mediocracy.
Dictionary Oxford Languages :
MEDIOCRACY
a dominant class consisting of mediocre people, or a system in which mediocrity is rewarded.
"a mediocracy of successful careerists and yes-men"
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - WhatDoYouThink! - 26-09-2024
They retired young, still can contribute in many ways with the education and job experience they were given. Aso to tell others that they will be well taken care when they retire
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - p1acebo - 26-09-2024
You keep the army generals too long in the army and you run the risk of a military junta like in Myanmar and Thailand. Some give them some cushy job in the public sector so they won’t cause unrest
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - WhatDoYouThink! - 26-09-2024
If becum jobless whole day stay home and monitor china, post news about ahtiongs pangsai and chopping ppl, very wasteful and unproductive
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Ola - 26-09-2024
They are the best Dogs because they have nowhere else to go
Not like lawyers who can leave and take up other jobs
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Napoleon Porlumpar - 26-09-2024
(26-09-2024, 08:34 AM)Bigiron Wrote: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post
Meta AI: The People's Action Party (PAP) in Singapore has a history of appointing former Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) generals to executive posts, particularly in statutory boards, government-linked companies, and even politics. This practice is often referred to as "parachuting" or "secondment."
Reasons:
1. Leadership skills: SAF generals possess strong leadership, strategic thinking, and problem-solving skills, honed through military experience.
2. National service: Military service is highly valued in Singapore, and SAF generals embody this spirit.
3. Technocratic expertise: Many SAF generals have technical expertise, gained through military education and experience.
4. Loyalty and integrity: SAF generals are perceived as loyal and trustworthy, having served the nation.
5. Network and connections: SAF generals have established networks within the government, military, and business sectors.
Examples:
1. Former Chief of Defence Force, Ng Jui Ping, became CEO of Singtel.
2. Former Chief of Army, Desmond Kuek, became CEO of SMRT.
3. Former Chief of Air Force, Lim Kim Choon, became Director of Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore.
Benefits:
1. Enhanced governance: SAF generals bring discipline and organizational skills.
2. Strategic thinking: Military experience fosters strategic planning and execution.
3. National unity: Appointing SAF generals promotes national cohesion.
Criticisms:
1. Limited private sector experience: Some argue SAF generals lack commercial expertise.
2. Over-reliance on military background: Critics suggest this perpetuates a "military elite" culture.
3. Meritocracy concerns: Some question whether appointments are based solely on merit.
Debate:
The practice sparks debate about:
1. Meritocracy vs. Cronyism
2. Military dominance in civilian spheres
3. Diversity and inclusivity in leadership
The PAP's approach reflects Singapore's unique context, emphasizing nat
ional security, stability, and effective governance.
minister and CEO salaries higher than generals' pay..................they trying to buy loyalty of generals still in the SAF.............if PAP kena voted out - they will activate SAF to turn S'pore into like Thailand or Burma............
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Blasterlord2 - 26-09-2024
Generals are not known for their problem solving skills. They dun even need to have strategic thinking. They will get the talents to do the thinking for them. So what they really need is the skill to identify talents.
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - EvertonDiehard - 26-09-2024
The Govt has a tradition of ensuring that senior SAF officers do not have to fend for themselves after they leave the military. As leaders' attitudes and psychology are vastly different between the public and private sectors, doubts will be raised about whether such appointments are based solely on merit or cronyism. When the Govt appoints former SAF Generals to lead government-linked companies, the appointments appear based on existing personal relationships rather than qualifications. The adverse effects on the morale of the rest of the management team and staff are far-reaching. As trust is the most important driver of staff engagement, transplanting ex-military personnel into senior positions in ministries and GLCs without the requisite industry experience, is always a bad idea. Cronyism casts aspersions on the Govt’s judgment and ethics when recruits from the SAF lack the requisite skills, knowledge and experience, which will become apparent over time.
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Buffybuffy - 26-09-2024
Should just retire them
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - EvertonDiehard - 26-09-2024
(26-09-2024, 03:13 PM)Buffybuffy Wrote: Should just retire them
Just like the Govt did to Tan Chuan-Jin.
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Bigiron - 26-09-2024
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RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Buffybuffy - 27-09-2024
(26-09-2024, 03:28 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote: Just like they the Govt did to Tan Chuan-Jin.So it’s proven it can be done
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - cheekopekman - 27-09-2024
(26-09-2024, 08:41 AM)Bigiron Wrote: Here are more examples of former Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) generals holding executive posts:
*Government-Linked Companies:*
1. Ng Yat Chung (Former Chief of Navy): CEO, Singtel
2. Desmond Kuek (Former Chief of Army): Former CEO, SMRT
3. Lim Kim Choon (Former Chief of Air Force): Former Director, Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore
4. Bey Soo Khiang (Former Chief of Defence Force): Chairman, ST Engineering
5. Tan Meng Dui (Former Chief of Navy): CEO, ST Marine
*Statutory Boards:*
1. Lee Hsien Yang (Former Brigadier-General): Chairman, SingBridge (formerly known as Singbridge Holdings Pte Ltd)
2. Wong Yan Loong (Former Major-General): Former CEO, Urban Redevelopment Authority
3. Tan Kok Yam (Former Brigadier-General): Deputy CEO, National Research Foundation
*Politics:*
1. Chan Chun Sing (Former Major-General): Minister for Trade and Industry
2. Ng Chee Meng (Former Brigadier-General): Minister for Education (Schools)
3. Tan Chuan-Jin (Former Brigadier-General): Speaker of Parliament
*Other Organizations:*
1. Lim Neo Chian (Former Major-General): Chairman, Singapore Aerospace and Defence Industries Association
2. Chong Yew Mun (Former Rear-Admiral): CEO, Singapore Maritime Institute
3. Ong Kong Eng (Former Brigadier-General): Executive Director, Singapore Science Centre
These appointments reflect the Singapore government's emphasis on leveraging military experience and expertise in leadership positions.
ALL of them SAF senior officers lah!
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - EvertonDiehard - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 10:44 AM)Buffybuffy Wrote: So it’s proven it can be done
In Tan Chuan-Jin's case, Cheng Li Hui was his "Achilles Heel".
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - EvertonDiehard - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 11:47 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: ALL of them SAF senior officers lah!
Are all of them really Short And Fat?
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Sticw - 27-09-2024
Always good to place own guard dogs in establishments...
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Clyde - 27-09-2024
(26-09-2024, 09:54 AM)WhatDoYouThink! Wrote: They retired young, still can contribute in many ways with the education and job experience they were given. Aso to tell others that they will be well taken care when they retire
Most important is that they are true blue singaporeans. They have gone through many background check while in saf. It will be disastrous to put a fake singaporean in the strategic position and he sabotage Singapore and run back to his ancestor's home after destroying Singapore.!
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - EvertonDiehard - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 02:18 PM)Sticw Wrote: Always good to place own guard dogs in establishments...
Notwithstanding their stellar academic qualifications, scholars who spent the best years of their life in the military are not suited for anything else. That is why these ex-SAF officers cannot fend for themselves after leaving the armed forces. The Govt won't cut their apron strings since they spent so much $$$ on the education of these so-called "brains".
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - Buffybuffy - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 12:27 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote: In Tan Chuan-Jin's case, Cheng Li Hui was his "Achilles Heel".The best still she doing squatting
![[Image: chenglihui-jpg.186249]](https://www.sammyboy.com/attachments/chenglihui-jpg.186249/)
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - cheekopekman - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 12:27 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote: In Tan Chuan-Jin's case, Cheng Li Hui was his "Achilles Heel".
Still big lah!
RE: Why pap always like to parachute those saf general into executive post - TopSage - 27-09-2024
Do I trust these good for nothing general to leads us into war? Absolutely NOOOOOOOOOO