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Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - forum456 - 27-09-2024
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/mrt-east-west-line-disruption-rare-4639661
"Just like cars, (trains) have axle boxes; it’s very rare for (them) to drop. It’s very unfortunate and a very rare case,” said electrical engineering expert Teo Chor Kok.
Mr Teo said this was the first time he had heard of an axle box dropping off after becoming dislodged. Routine inspections of the train would have included the undercarriage area and the axle boxes, he added.
The axle box, which houses the bearings that allow the train's wheels to rotate smoothly, is designed for heavy-duty use, said another expert.
"Under normal circumstances, the axle box, bogie (an undercarriage with wheels) and train wheels do not come off from the train," said Mr Jumadi Husani, the chief specialist for rail operations at Dubai's Roads & Transport Authority.
If it does happen, it is mainly due to improper installation of parts after maintenance or testing activities or if defective components like damaged bolts or screws are not replaced, Mr Jumadi said.
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - cheekopekman - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 11:51 AM)forum456 Wrote: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/mrt-east-west-line-disruption-rare-4639661
"Just like cars, (trains) have axle boxes; it’s very rare for (them) to drop. It’s very unfortunate and a very rare case,” said electrical engineering expert Teo Chor Kok.
Mr Teo said this was the first time he had heard of an axle box dropping off after becoming dislodged. Routine inspections of the train would have included the undercarriage area and the axle boxes, he added.
The axle box, which houses the bearings that allow the train's wheels to rotate smoothly, is designed for heavy-duty use, said another expert.
"Under normal circumstances, the axle box, bogie (an undercarriage with wheels) and train wheels do not come off from the train," said Mr Jumadi Husani, the chief specialist for rail operations at Dubai's Roads & Transport Authority.
If it does happen, it is mainly due to improper installation of parts after maintenance or testing activities or if defective components like damaged bolts or screws are not replaced, Mr Jumadi said.
EWL that track is very old liao lah!
Just like NSL lah! Time to change new ones liao lah!
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - talky - 27-09-2024
why till now pap mrt board mgt did not refute or acknowledgwe ,just keep quiet is guilty conscious.
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Manthink - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 11:52 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: EWL that track is very old liao lah!
The carriage is the 1st gen 1980s Made in Japan Kawasaki Heavy Industries (KHI) trains.
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - RiseofAsia - 27-09-2024
They already said, they have been over maintenance, now the expert said poor maintenance
Who can be trusted?
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Alice Alicia - 27-09-2024
Since when do we have a transport minister who has a degree in transport infrastructure or mechanical engineering?
All we had were ball licking, money sucking mediocre good for nothing multitasking part time ministers.
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - goodboy - 27-09-2024
The CEO must go.
Govt wants a car lite society and if they want that, the top notch performance of public transportation is non-negotiable.
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - cheekopekman - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 12:33 PM)Manthink Wrote: The carriage is the 1st gen 1980s Made in Japan Kawasaki Heavy Industries (KHI) trains.
People also will die machine also will spoil mah!
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - singaporean1964 - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 01:52 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: People also will die machine also will spoil mah!
can u imagine
the train joining part FELL apart
pple stand there all fall down the track and kill by the train due to poor maintenance
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - singaporean1964 - 27-09-2024
the icident is 'rare' becos no maintenance team in the world will allow the axle box from falling down due to 'poor ' maintenance
the box must have been roting for quite a while until all the screws holding it fell apart...
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - cheekopekman - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 02:04 PM)singaporean1964 Wrote: can u imagine
the train joining part FELL apart
pple stand there all fall down the track and kill by the train due to poor maintenance
Anything can happen will happen lah!
Lucky no man dead yet lah!
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Migrant - 27-09-2024
So this proves made in Japan not so good.
Should import from China.
Number one in rails and roads
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Harry Lee - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 02:07 PM)singaporean1964 Wrote: the icident is 'rare' becos no maintenance team in the world will allow the axle box from falling down due to 'poor ' maintenanceMaybe run out of cable ties.....
the box must have been roting for quite a while until all the screws holding it fell apart...
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Bigbluedot - 27-09-2024
Technology deficiency as well as management / supervision weakness contribute to this incident.
As usual there will be a committee to probe the case.
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - cityhantam - 27-09-2024
I think after the boss said not to over maintain, all started to relax!
BTW, 35 yrs old Kawasaki train was still used!
Amazing!
Are they not having enough money to buy new ones?
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Gstalk - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 05:08 PM)cityhantam Wrote: I think after the boss said not to over maintain, all started to relax!
BTW, 35 yrs old Kawasaki train was still used!
Amazing!
Are they not having enough money to buy new ones?
And yet, the PnP limit the life of cars to 10 years and if you want to keep the car more than 10 years, you have to pay for the COE again.
Why double standards?
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Wy:Nox - 27-09-2024
Prevention is better than cure. Do your regular exercise so that screws do not fall off.
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - watchfirst9 - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 05:08 PM)cityhantam Wrote: I think after the boss said not to over maintain, all started to relax!
BTW, 35 yrs old Kawasaki train was still used!
Amazing!
Are they not having enough money to buy new ones?
There is replacement of mechanical components after 2011 incidents.
But as some issues after signal upgrade in late 2010s. It takes a while to integrate the system properly.
Thus the delay for full replacement for EW line trains. Most trains are partially upgraded.
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - cityhantam - 27-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 07:33 PM)watchfirst9 Wrote: There is replacement of mechanical components after 2011 incidents.
But as some issues after signal upgrade in late 2010s. It takes a while to integrate the system properly.
Thus the delay for full replacement for EW line trains. Most trains are partially upgraded.
.... first section from Yio Chu Kang to Toa Payoh commencing operation on 7 November 1987.
That Kawasaki is the "pioneer" lor!
It is important to replace such an old train and not wait until disaster like this happens!
Hope those ic in LTA and SMRT wake up to this fact after this incident!
Last time they woke up only after the wooden slippers became so rotten that they had to resort to using plastic fasteners and resulted in more problems! Eventually, Ah Cow got to come in to put things back on track.
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - victortan - 28-09-2024
what if train jump track and fall on to the road,, all dies,
i think i better keep my bike and small car.. MRT is a cowboy train..
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Scythian - 28-09-2024
Similar problems happened more than 20 years ago, now, they should recall Ms Saw ex CEO to return to help SMRT..
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - surfer - 28-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 05:08 PM)cityhantam Wrote: I think after the boss said not to over maintain, all started to relax!
BTW, 35 yrs old Kawasaki train was still used!
Amazing!
Are they not having enough money to buy new ones?
Why the government allows SMRT to use train that is 35 years old? Motorists have to scrap their cars after 10 years. Fucking double standards.😡
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - p1acebo - 28-09-2024
Age should NOT be an excuse. If the train is not track worthy, it should not be allowed on the tracks. As simple as that
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2024/09/27/christopher-tan-criticizes-mrt-breakdown-following-decade-long-renewal-program/
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - p1acebo - 28-09-2024
Only Saw Phaik Hwa heypi like fark. Nothing really much has changed since her days in charge
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Scythian - 28-09-2024
(27-09-2024, 12:23 PM)talky Wrote: why till now pap mrt board mgt did not refute or acknowledgwe ,just keep quiet is guilty conscious.
.
The breakdowns is due to no maintenance
All started by Ms Saw, former CEO
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Scythian - 28-09-2024
(28-09-2024, 07:53 AM)p1acebo Wrote: Only Saw Phaik Hwa heypi like fark. Nothing really much has changed since her days in charge
Ex CEO Ms Saw was a DFS sales girl and only knows how to build shops and set-up hawker stalls.
SMRT admitted that Ms Saw knows nothing about running an underground metro systems..
SMRT tracks " Damaged Cables " were wrapped with masking tape and 2 newly employed employees monitored by senior engineer died inspecting the tracks
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Scythian - 28-09-2024
(28-09-2024, 07:53 AM)p1acebo Wrote: Only Saw Phaik Hwa heypi like fark. Nothing really much has changed since her days in charge
Today, many commuters saw and witnessed ex CEO Ms Saw driving her Ferrari along Orchard Road.
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Scythian - 28-09-2024
Keep on increasing fares and continuously taking money from commuters and taxpayers without proper maintenance and servicing of our national underground metro systems is unacceptable. - total failures
No excuse
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - Scythian - 28-09-2024
"Mode Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to either poor or no maintenance"
RE: Experts say SMRT breakdown is due to poor maintenance - FangFang - 28-09-2024
Still SG have not learn after this years,,, management fault ?