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38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Bigiron - 06-01-2022
38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021
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RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Oyk - 06-01-2022
One sector which is recession-proof, c19-impact-proof, is the funeral business.
Caskets sell as usual, if not more. So also the ancillary services...embalming, urns, sai gongs, joss sticks, paper iPhone13, etc....
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - cityhantam - 06-01-2022
MOH should make Sinovac and Sinopharm more easily accessible to ALL!
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Tangsen - 06-01-2022
Hospitalisation pay yourself haaaarrrr
MOH = Ministry of HUAT
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RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Tangsen - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 11:22 AM)Oyk Wrote: One sector which is recession-proof, c19-impact-proof, is the funeral business.
Caskets sell as usual, if not more. So also the ancillary services...embalming, urns, sai gongs, joss sticks, paper iPhone13, etc....
Quite scary as the white pirates know their economic contribution already passed "use by date" and a social burden, when ICU they may just pull the plug.
Smart old froggies will jabbed and boost liow …my senior peers jabbed mostly ah Tiong and already turbo booster liow
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Oyk - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 11:29 AM)Tangsen Wrote: Quite scary as the white pirates know their economic contribution already passed "use by date" and a social burden, when ICU they may just pull the plug.
Smart old froggies will jabbed and boost liow …my senior peers jabbed mostly ah Tiong and already turbo booster liow
Social burden?
They are trying to keep old people alive, even if they have multiple medical issues which are costly to treat.
And here in Singapore mercy killing is outlawed.
So die die, we must keep old people alive even if they themselves wish to die.
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - starbugs - 06-01-2022
Some of the 162,000 probably died in the meantime. If not from covid, then other causes.
About 25,000 die in SG every year.
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Tangsen - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 11:33 AM)Oyk Wrote: Social burden?
They are trying to keep old people alive, even if they have multiple medical issues which are costly to treat.
And here in Singapore mercy killing is outlawed.
So die die, we must keep old people alive even if they themselves wish to die.
Nope, because I know of cases where docs will access the chance of survival … low chance "pluck the plug" because they will want to free up beds
This is not mercy killing, its called not wasting resources when a "medically dead" is being kept alive by machine
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - ODA TETSURO - 06-01-2022
How bout those vaccinated and died from covid?
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - lylcnn - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 11:40 AM)Tangsen Wrote: Nope, because I know of cases where docs will access the chance of survival … low chance "pluck the plug" because they will want to free up beds
This is not mercy killing, its called not wasting resources when a "medically dead" is being kept alive by machine
Are you saying for covid seniors? ICU utilization never crossed 70% if I recall right
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Oyk - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 11:40 AM)Tangsen Wrote: Nope, because I know of cases where docs will access the chance of survival … low chance "pluck the plug" because they will want to free up beds
This is not mercy killing, its called not wasting resources when a "medically dead" is being kept alive by machine
OK. You are talking about those who are on life support.
I am talking about those who can still breath, whose heart can still beat.
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Oyk - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 11:47 AM)ODA TETSURO Wrote: How bout those vaccinated and died from covid?
Old folks with comorbidities have a reduced chance of dying if they are vaccinated. Reduced chance does not mean "100% will not die".
If they are not vaccinated, the number of old folks who would have died would be much more.
Some people might ask: What for waste money to keep these old folks alive? They are a burden to the society.
People say that only if that old folk is not related to them, and is just an ah peh to them. (Somehow, people might be gentler towards an ah ma...)
But there is a moral issue here because to you, he is an ah pek, but to someone else, he is her grandfather who used to fetch her to and fro school when she was in primary school, then bought her lunch....there is a strong bond.
Multiply this....and you have 400K PGs who are grandpas and grandmas of thousands of young people. Who is willing to let them die, if it is possible to extend their life for another five years, ten years, maybe twenty years even?
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Bigiron - 06-01-2022
We are only consider as economic value to them . When your age catch up your value drop and this doesn't apply to them 😡😡😭
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - ODA TETSURO - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 12:17 PM)Oyk Wrote: Old folks with comorbidities have a reduced chance of dying if they are vaccinated. Reduced chance does not mean "100% will not die".Do not underestimated an unvax old folk who can survive covid or any other flu viruses. Human body is a very complicated system, my great grandma was a smoker and never get cancer.
If they are not vaccinated, the number of old folks who would have died would be much more.
Some people might ask: What for waste money to keep these old folks alive? They are a burden to the society.
People say that only if that old folk is not related to them, and is just an ah peh to them. (Somehow, people might be gentler towards an ah ma...)
But there is a moral issue here because to you, he is an ah pek, but to someone else, he is her grandfather who used to fetch her to and fro school when she was in primary school, then bought her lunch....there is a strong bond.
Multiply this....and you have 400K PGs who are grandpas and grandmas of thousands of young people. Who is willing to let them die, if it is possible to extend their life for another five years, ten years, maybe twenty years even?
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Tangsen - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 11:47 AM)ODA TETSURO Wrote: How bout those vaccinated and died from covid?
Die lor … what you want …. state funeral har?
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Tangsen - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 12:52 PM)ODA TETSURO Wrote: Do not underestimated an unvax old folk who can survive covid or any other flu viruses. Human body is a very complicated system, my great grandma was a smoker and never get cancer.
But still die, yes? Or can live forever?
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Tangsen - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 12:09 PM)lylcnn Wrote: Are you saying for covid seniors? ICU utilization never crossed 70% if I recall right
I think have, correct me if I am wrong, got hit 90+%
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Tangsen - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 12:10 PM)Oyk Wrote: OK. You are talking about those who are on life support.
I am talking about those who can still breath, whose heart can still beat.
Yeah, I ask you if a 70yrs & a 40yrs old kenna covid and same condition need ICU, as a doctor who should get it?
RE: 38,000 seniors remain unvaccinated against Covid-19, down from 200,000 in July 2021 - Oyk - 06-01-2022
(06-01-2022, 04:10 PM)Tangsen Wrote: Yeah, I ask you if a 70yrs & a 40yrs old kenna covid and same condition need ICU, as a doctor who should get it?
Depends. If the 70 year old is you, the doctor should let you go in ICU.
If the 40 year old ish Sentinel, the doctor should throw that char siew away regardless of whoever ish the other patient.
