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China seems to have figured out how to make 7nm chips despite US sanctions - lvlrsSTI - 26-07-2022
https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/22/china_smic_7nm_chips/
RE: China seems to have figured out how to make 7nm chips despite US sanctions - lvlrsSTI - 26-07-2022
Intel is still unable to make 10 mm chips.
RE: China seems to have figured out how to make 7nm chips despite US sanctions - WhatDoYouThink? - 26-07-2022
(26-07-2022, 11:45 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: Intel is still unable to make 10 mm chips.
mm is very giant
RE: China seems to have figured out how to make 7nm chips despite US sanctions - Tangsen - 26-07-2022
1.3B people …. 1% brightest = 13m … 2.5x of SG population
1.3B people …. 10% brightes = 130m … why is it so surprising … brain power
RE: China seems to have figured out how to make 7nm chips despite US sanctions - kokee - 27-07-2022
(23-07-2022, 09:52 AM)kokee Wrote: SMIC 7 nm, got morons believe?
as below, SMIC steal TSMC patent & technology without paying any royalty or get approval from TSMC, china is a thief, norm, almost in all technology, infringement of patent or copy right! almost in all trades, no original innovation & invention.
Use your brain, if china come out with their own technology, they will shout like crazy to show off like moron, but why keep so quiet? this news comes from US instead, IC only used in Crypto company, or course, SMIC can never mass production their 7nm due to equipment constraint, can only small quantity build.
today TSMC mess production 3 nm, announce latest technology never heard of in the world, TSMC today at least 10 generation ahead of SMIC, based on current development, gives SMIC 50 yrs will never reach TSMC today!
China does not have EUV but makes 7nm?
TSMC's secret killer: surpassing the mainstream roadmap of the chip industry. HPC, SiGe pFET, DTCO.
why seem? why huaweei so quiet yet no hp or products to sell?
why big mouth china never BS their achievement? steal technology?
what is the yield? mass production capable?
said many times here, there is no ways china can make any advanced IC today, can only BS & bark but no delivery!
ASML machine, whether is DUV or EUV, no way holland can make it by themselves, >10 country need to co-operate, almost all these suppliers tied to US.
most important optical parts must be from germany, china is easily 50 yrs or forever no way for china to make such optical lens part inside china!
dont talk about the rest of electronics or sensors or material, china know nut about all these parts!
no one will sell these parts to china today, all banned!
Why The World Relies On ASML For Machines That Print Chips
RE: China seems to have figured out how to make 7nm chips despite US sanctions - Omnipresent88 - 27-07-2022
(26-07-2022, 11:43 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/22/china_smic_7nm_chips/
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RE: China seems to have figured out how to make 7nm chips despite US sanctions - Levin - 27-07-2022
(26-07-2022, 11:45 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: Intel is still unable to make 10 mm chips.
No lah. Intel is now closing the gap and just behind SMIC a little, being able to make 7 nm chips this second half of the year. SMIC has been shipping 7 nm chips since last year so Intel is about a year behind SMIC only.
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/07/now-china-smic-and-intel-are-both-at-7-nanometer-chips.html
RE: China seems to have figured out how to make 7nm chips despite US sanctions - lvlrsSTI - 27-07-2022
(27-07-2022, 08:20 AM)Levin Wrote: No lah. Intel is now closing the gap and just behind SMIC a little, being able to make 7 nm chips this second half of the year. SMIC has been shipping 7 nm chips since last year so Intel is about a year behind SMIC only.
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/07/now-china-smic-and-intel-are-both-at-7-nanometer-chips.html
Taiwan gets very worried as they thought China has no way to catch up, not in another 50-70 years.
Now the U.S. wants Korea and Taiwan join Chip 4 Alliance to stop them selling chips to China. The problem is China is the biggest customer of both Korea and Taiwan. Last year 90% Taiwan made chips were exported to China and 45% Korean made chips were exported to China. Stop exporting chips to China will kill the lifelines for both.
RE: China seems to have figured out how to make 7nm chips despite US sanctions - kokee - 27-07-2022
Intel behind SMIC? all these real know nut comie dogs!
only brainless can be fooled in this forum!
Mediatek now look for Intel to fab for them, moronic comie dogs dont know what mediatek can do!!
let these dog bark whatever lies they want from ass, same to all the communist sources of fake!
Intel foundry dept. won a major customer of TSMC with a long-term contract from MediaTek IoT chip.
(25-07-2022, 02:23 PM)kokee Wrote: watch & understand yourself, can a 7 nm IC made without ASML EUV machine?
as what claimed by comie dogs here!
who will give order to SMIC on such 7 nm? china military? huawei?
If SMIC can make it, super breakthru, why keep so secretive & try not to annouce? If all know china, their people & company character, will they do so?
Can You Do 7nm Chips Without EUV?
RE: China seems to have figured out how to make 7nm chips despite US sanctions - Omnipresent88 - 27-07-2022
(27-07-2022, 11:24 AM)lvlrsSTI Wrote: Taiwan gets very worried as they thought China has no way to catch up, not in another 50-70 years.
Now the U.S. wants Korea and Taiwan join Chip 4 Alliance to stop them selling chips to China. The problem is China is the biggest customer of both Korea and Taiwan. Last year 90% Taiwan made chips were exported to China and 45% Korean made chips were exported to China. Stop exporting chips to China will kill the lifelines for both.
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