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Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - Bigiron - 25-10-2022

Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong

Singapore will also scale up supply chains for low-carbon hydrogen, among other steps, to ensure it reaches its hydrogen goal.

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RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - RiseofAsia - 25-10-2022

Hydrogen is so risky.
How come still use Hydrogen?
Very active gas.

Low carbon hydrogen…Sigh!
Japan fuel cell already few decades still no full implementation yet. 要倾家荡产了。

It is very expensive to produce low carbon hydrogen.


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - RiseofAsia - 25-10-2022

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/The-Big-Story/Be-water-Japan-s-big-lonely-bet-on-hydrogen


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - cityhantam - 25-10-2022

Hydrogen comes from where?


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - Ola - 25-10-2022

Next, PAP will build nuke to power our supply

build where? at the reclaim land ear Changi Airport, lor

PAP TEST Balloon, liao

Be Prepared when they deny and say no 10 million Population or GST rates

and accuse of making false allegations



https://www.bing.com/search?q=singapore%2C+build+nuke&form=ANNTH1&refig=ec9af32fed6d402c942ef1bc165bf678


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - [[ForeverAlone]] - 25-10-2022

very scary , HDB carpark , condo carpark etc
some more our country is so compact.

Unlike USA, China


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - cityhantam - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 01:14 PM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote:  very scary , HDB carpark , condo carpark etc
some more our country is so compact.

Unlike USA, China

USA and China are investing big on EV, not hydrogen!


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - Manthink - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 12:14 PM)cityhantam Wrote:  Hydrogen comes from where?

Ammonia or NH3- which makes up largely hydrogen and nitrogen... and has zero carbon.

Exist as gas at normal temp is not flammable and smelly else, you will be poisoned without knowing its presence.

That makes it a good "raw" material for producing hydrogen - the foundation of fuel-cell power generation.

[Image: Blog-Images-danger-ammonia_164_0_600_1067.jpg]


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - Huliwang - 25-10-2022

If hydrogen can reduce cost of living by 50% then it is worth considering taking the risk. .... Rolleyes


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - Blasterlord2 - 25-10-2022

What is missing in the equation is the cost of producing the hydrogen. If it's very costly I'm not sure I'll be supportive of it. Clean energy is good but Singapore is too small to make a mark.


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - Manthink - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 01:27 PM)cityhantam Wrote:  USA and China are investing big on EV, not hydrogen!

EV is just part of the electrification part of transport system.  Difference is unlike most EV which rely on rare minerals used in lithium-battery cells, electric fuel cells just need hydrogen as fuel - which is far more abundant.
That is why the Chinese and US are looking for water on the Moon and Mars.
For real world e.g. Shell already testing hydrogen-based fuel cell ships in SG.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/14-projects-including-shell-trial-of-hydrogen-fuel-cell-for-ships-follow-international


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - cityhantam - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 01:51 PM)Manthink Wrote:  Ammonia or NH3- which makes up largely hydrogen and nitrogen... and has zero carbon.

Exist as gas at normal temp is not flammable and smelly else, you will be poisoned without knowing its presence.

That makes it a good "raw" material for producing hydrogen - the foundation of fuel-cell power generation.

[Image: Blog-Images-danger-ammonia_164_0_600_1067.jpg]

Wrong liao, Bro!  Big Grin

The production of ammonia from natural gas is conducted by reacting methane (natural gas) with steam and air, coupled with the subsequent removal of water and CO2. The products of this process are hydrogen and nitrogen, which are the feedstock for the main ammonia synthesis.


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - talky - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 01:54 PM)Huliwang Wrote:  If hydrogen can reduce cost of living by 50% then it is worth considering taking the risk. .... Rolleyes

CAN HAPPEN IN OTHER COUNTRIES
BUY NEVER UNDER PAP
EVEN IF FUEL IS CHEAPER THEY WILL INCREASE THE  FUELTAX, GST N OTHER TAXES


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - Manthink - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 01:57 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  What is missing in the equation is the cost of producing the hydrogen. If it's very costly I'm not sure I'll be supportive of it. Clean energy is good but Singapore is too small to make a mark.

It has never been "cheap" to process and distribute in the energy market.
It took JTC decades and reclaimed entire Jurong Island to attract oil coy - it is a long term investment.
That is why today SG has one of the largest oil refinery in the world and a major distribution center - while we don't even have a single oil field !

Same strategic plan applies to future new energy market


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - Manthink - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 02:42 PM)cityhantam Wrote:  Wrong liao, Bro!  Big Grin

The production of ammonia from natural gas is conducted by reacting methane (natural gas) with steam and air, coupled with the subsequent removal of water and CO2. The products of this process are hydrogen and nitrogen, which are the feedstock for the main ammonia synthesis.

Yes - there is close association between industrial production of ammonia and hydrogen.
However, the reason SG is involved in the former is for easier distribution of the later since transporting pure (liquefied super cold) H2 is more expensive and riskier . Kinda of like using exploiting proven production method and apply it to hydrogen-based energy market - end of the day future consumer like our children or grand children should have access to cheaper hydrogen-based energy.


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - dynamite - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 12:14 PM)cityhantam Wrote:  Hydrogen comes from where?

H2O


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - dynamite - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 01:57 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  What is missing in the equation is the cost of producing the hydrogen. If it's very costly I'm not sure I'll be supportive of it. Clean energy is good but Singapore is too small to make a mark.

U can produce at home using electrolysis


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - cityhantam - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 05:16 PM)dynamite Wrote:  U can produce at home using electrolysis

Well, it's more efficient and economical to use electricity directly to run the car then!  Big Grin


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - dynamite - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 05:20 PM)cityhantam Wrote:  Well, it's more efficient and economical to use electricity directly to run the car then!  Big Grin
Check with Lawrence Wong the details.


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - RiseofAsia - 25-10-2022

https://youtu.be/JGe8R0N20ps


RE: Hydrogen to supply half of Singapore's power needs by 2050: Lawrence Wong - cityhantam - 25-10-2022

(25-10-2022, 06:00 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote:  https://youtu.be/JGe8R0N20ps

https://www.jadecove.com/research/hydrogenscam

Hydrogen is Big Oil’s Last Grand Scam

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