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How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - lvlrsSTI - 28-12-2022




RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - RiseofAsia - 28-12-2022

Really foolish idea. Rotfl


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - RiseofAsia - 28-12-2022

https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jun/15/australias-energy-crisis-explained-from-price-caps-to-the-suspension-of-electricity-trading


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - debono - 28-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 10:54 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote:  Really foolish idea. Rotfl
It is such a foolish idea, there will be great voltage drops in the cables................. Laughing


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - RiseofAsia - 28-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 10:57 PM)debono Wrote:  It is such a foolish idea, there will be great voltage drops in the cables................. Laughing

They think building step up and step down transformers(repeaters) and maintenance cost are cheap. Rotfl

For this Ukraine war, they never learn the invisible enemy can suka suka sabotage the power line.


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - Blasterlord2 - 28-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 10:54 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote:  Really foolish idea. Rotfl

I'm not sure if it's so foolish. The engineers have to work out the losses from the cables and see if it's worth it.


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - RiseofAsia - 28-12-2022

常言道,远亲不如近邻!
So simple wisdom, they also don’t know.


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - lvlrsSTI - 28-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 10:59 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote:  They think building step up and step down transformers(repeaters) and maintenance cost are cheap. Rotfl

For this Ukraine war, they never learn the  invisible enemy can suka suka sabotage the power line.

The thing is Spore already signed contract with them already. Huh


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - debono - 28-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 11:09 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  The thing is Spore already signed contract with them already. Huh

Is that so.............. Big Grin


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - cwc29 - 28-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 11:03 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  I'm not sure if it's so foolish. The engineers have to work out the losses from the cables and see if it's worth it.

Almost Zero losses when transmitting the voltage on ultra high Voltages


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - cwc29 - 28-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 10:59 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote:  They think building step up and step down transformers(repeaters) and maintenance cost are cheap. Rotfl

For this Ukraine war, they never learn the  invisible enemy can suka suka sabotage the power line.

Ann la .. China already invented ultra high capacity transformer for super long length transmissions 2k km sub sub the water 

Clapping


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - cwc29 - 28-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 11:25 PM)cwc29 Wrote:  Ann la .. China already invented ultra high capacity transformer for super long length transmissions 2k km sub sub the water 

Clapping

Transformer bery cheap to maintain


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - lvlrsSTI - 28-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 11:28 PM)cwc29 Wrote:  Transformer bery cheap to maintain

You are the expert in electricity, brother cwc! Laughing

小老板! Big Grin


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - cwc29 - 29-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 11:41 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  You are the expert in electricity, brother cwc! Laughing

小老板! Big Grin

Primary science class got teach ma .. and gum gum my uncle’s  house got one old transformer after 20 over years still kicking without any maintenance that why I known bery cheap to maintain the transformer 

低调 !!低调 !!pls 

Big Grin


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - limpeh394 - 29-12-2022

tiagong a nuclear sub generator alone could power 20,000 household

actually could we place a few giant rigs nuclear generator in SEA international water? SG is good at building gigantic oil rigs.

Russian has similar concept using ships
https://spectrum.ieee.org/media-library/floating-nuclear-power-plant-akademik-lomonosov-en-route-to-its-permanent-base-at-pevek.jpg?id=25589767&width=1200&height=600&coordinates=0%2C7%2C0%2C7


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - Scythian - 29-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 10:47 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  
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Beside water supply, there is shortage of electricity in Singapore.

Luckily, in June, Shell refinery decided to continue  production otherwise, Singaporeans maybe eating in darkness.
Thank God.


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - Scythian - 29-12-2022

.Indonesia agreed to extend gas supply to Singapore in 2023.

"Under the new contract Indonesia will likely supply a lower volume of gas to Singapore."


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - RiseofAsia - 29-12-2022

https://www.submarinenetworks.com/en/power-cable/a-1-208km-euraasia-interconnector-subsea-power-cable-costs-900-million

Take this as an example for construction cost

2800 miles = 4506km

(4506km/1208)*900mil -10% discount
=3.021 Billion euro


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - RiseofAsia - 29-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 11:25 PM)cwc29 Wrote:  Ann la .. China already invented ultra high capacity transformer for super long length transmissions 2k km sub sub the water 

Clapping

Losses are not only on the transformer lah.
On land it is 8 to 15% power loss during transmission.
Let assume losses on land and sea are the same.

Different power is lost at different stages

1-2% of energy is lost during the step-up transformer from when the electricity is generated to when it is transmitted.

2-4% of energy is lost in the transmission lines

1-2% of energy is lost during the step-down of the transform from the transmission line to distribution.

4-6% of energy is lost during the distribution

The average loss of power between the power plant and consumers ranges between 8-15%.

Mostly losses are at the distribution area. In the Sea, more expensive to lay and maintain the cable.


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - Scythian - 29-12-2022

.Shortage of water and electricity

Beside Sewage water collection, Singapore Govt may have to consider collecting German Gas


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - Scythian - 29-12-2022

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Why Singapore got so many never ending problems?


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - Scythian - 29-12-2022

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Heard from a friend living in Malacca, he says many people connected their electricity supply from street lamp posts.

While some put a strong magnet on top of electric metres and no charge.


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - talky - 29-12-2022

in the 1st place is real foolish to sell away at least 2 power generating stations away to foreigners
spore is in so high debt?


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - cityhantam - 29-12-2022

(28-12-2022, 10:54 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote:  Really foolish idea. Rotfl

That is called "piped dream" mah!  Laughing


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - lvlrsSTI - 29-12-2022

(29-12-2022, 06:41 AM)Scythian Wrote:  .
Heard from a friend living in Malacca, he says many people connected their electricity supply from street lamp posts.

While some put a strong magnet on top of electric metres and no charge.

What are you talking? Singapore is not like Malacca


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - starbugs - 29-12-2022

What I don't understand is why Australia doesn't keep the solar electricity for itself, instead of burning coal to generate >half of their electricity. Very dirty way of generating electricity.

[Image: Australian-electricity-generation-fuel-mix-0.png]
https://www.energy.gov.au/data/australian-electricity-generation-fuel-mix


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - cityhantam - 29-12-2022

Can they do this with cables under the sea?




RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - cityhantam - 29-12-2022

http://www.chinatoday.com.cn/ctenglish/2018/ln/202102/t20210226_800237464.html


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RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - lvlrsSTI - 29-12-2022

(29-12-2022, 11:31 AM)starbugs Wrote:  What I don't understand is why Australia doesn't keep the solar electricity for itself, instead of burning coal to generate >half of their electricity. Very dirty way of generating electricity.

[Image: Australian-electricity-generation-fuel-mix-0.png]
https://www.energy.gov.au/data/australian-electricity-generation-fuel-mix

Yalor, they own self suffer from from shortage of electricity, why dunt they use solar to generate electricity first before help other countries? Huh


RE: How Singapore Plans To Pipe Electricity From Australia - cityhantam - 29-12-2022

(29-12-2022, 11:47 AM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  Yalor, they own self suffer from from shortage of electricity, why dunt they use solar to generate electricity first before help other countries? Huh

Will it end up as another billion dollar scam?  Thinking