We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus

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We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - Sentinel - 09-10-2021

It is not true like what dumbo LW said that most will be infected and then recover at home and will be fine

There are severe underlining issues and questions not answered in such a dubious strategy

1. Recover at home when infected means likely to spread to other members of the household and then later spread to outsiders
The chain will not be broken, isn't this suicidal?

2. There is long-tail effect after recovering from Covid infection
Who's responsibility is it then? We want to be treated in hospital, as this is what our taxes paid for - Affordable Healthcare is ingrained in our Constitution

3. Why after full dose of P & M crap, still can get infected and can spread and can die from it? This means that by hook and by crook we must not be infected and
recovering at home means it is very unavoidable to spread the virus from one member to another

4. Who should be held accountable for raiding our National Reserves to procure billions of dollars worth of the crap P & M, only to have a total failure of the vaccination exercise with such high numbers and rising and besides this, the mRNA vaccine has long term unknown side effects, for example nervous system damage, ADE, cancer, infertility, etc

5. Why PAP MOH never use their brain a bit and observe China and Hong Kong and notice that these two countries are back to normalcy because they use de-activated virus vaccine, namely Sinovax, Sinopharm and in other countries that use Sinovac and Sinopharm, the Covid infection numbers have fallen down even while Delta variant has entered their countries

6. One death is one death too many. PAP MOH has blood on their hands and such a wishy washy irresponsible, non-accountable Recover At Home strategy just to save the Healthcare infrastructure means they never properly plan for this surge and now just throw the hot potato to the population and you die your own business

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - way - 09-10-2021

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3150950/coronavirus-pfizer-booster-may-better-protect-third-coronavac

Laughing

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - Sentinel - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 08:30 AM)way Wrote: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3150950/coronavirus-pfizer-booster-may-better-protect-third-coronavac

This study serves no purpose other than to blindside the ignorant and corrupt the decision process by confusing the average person when making the choice

In the first place, high antibodies is NOT EQUAL to high afficacy, as is hinted in the article

P & M has low to zero afficacy against Delta and you can pump as many booster shots as you like but the result will be the same...the antibodies do not recognize the Delta variant

Duh!

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - mikotan - 09-10-2021

Must be some agreement with US. That is why SG cannot include China vax in our national vax program even recognise by WHO.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - Cmpunk - 09-10-2021

Mad no solution than say have to live with virus

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - kangtangman - 09-10-2021

The problem with our ruling party strategy is to pass on their responsibility to the people. While they are not subject to any claimant for their failing in their executions.

With many who had taken the vaccinations and died in the event of it, our government make no claims of responsibility or accountability.

Under the leadership of the current PM it has been like that for many years. This afternoon speech will serve just another announcement with no substance. Don’t have high hopes.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - FangFang - 09-10-2021

I come to understand how easy for them to manage, not really a difficult task. Skill to find execuses is important.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - babygirl - 09-10-2021

Clapping

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - debono - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 09:46 AM)kangtangman Wrote: The problem with our ruling party strategy is to pass on their responsibility to the people. While they are not subject to any claimant for their failing in their executions.

With many who had taken the vaccinations and died in the event of it, our government make no claims of responsibility or accountability.

Under the leadership of the current PM it has been like that for many years. This afternoon speech will serve just another announcement with no substance. Don’t have high hopes.

I concur with your comments, and do not have high hope for the speech by PM this afternoon....

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - kangtangman - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 10:33 AM)debono Wrote: I concur with your comments, and do not have high hope for the speech by PM this afternoon....

The reason PM is giving a speech this afternoon is because many reports are beginning to cast on negativities and doubts in their executions.

Therefore he is out to calm the people here and to trust their moves are necessary. Despite their increasing numbers South Korea and probably a few countries are beginning to open up for our people to travel and we need to learn to live with this virus…..blah blah blah. As such he is seeking for our trust and patient and most of all our understanding with the new order.

But again he and his team will not take any responsibilities and accountabilities, with many deaths in recent weeks.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - Huliwang - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 10:33 AM)debono Wrote: I concur with your comments, and do not have high hope for the speech by PM this afternoon....

I concur with you..... Big Grin

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - RichDad - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 11:17 AM)Huliwang Wrote: I concur with you.....

We are on the same shelf?

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - kangtangman - 09-10-2021

Just received a WhatsApp message with recording made by a guy claiming that PM is likely to announce the approval use of Sinopharm.

Reason is because the recent cases where a Chinese national returning back to FUJIAN with the delta variant. And that the Chinese were able to contain with a lockdown for a month.

And now the only way to turn this around is to have Temasek to give away a few thousands senior personnel to get vaccinated with Sinopharm for free.

This guy also mentioned that this administration is running at loss now where the number of infections rises from few hundreds into thousands within weeks.

With Temasek chairperson who is the wife of PM has the capacity to give away this to “save” our people….in my opinion, this further proves that this leadership is rubbish and contradicts what this Task Force is advocating by not having a lockdown or CB…..this government of ours have loss touched with the ground with their high remunerations and we need to question do they worth the money we all paid for?

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - EXBB - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 10:29 AM)babygirl Wrote:

U beri cute

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - Ola - 09-10-2021

PAP has never been clear- minded enough nor prioritize correctly on many national issues.

Why do they make decisions with wrong timing, wrong people and wrong situation ？？

HOPELESS。

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - CHAOS - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 08:49 AM)mikotan Wrote: Must be some agreement with US. That is why SG cannot include China vax in our national vax program even recognise by WHO.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - Huliwang - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 11:20 AM)RichDad Wrote: We are on the same shelf?

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - kangtangman - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 11:27 AM)Ola Wrote: PAP has never been clear- minded enough nor prioritize correctly on many national issues.

Why do they make decisions with wrong timing, wrong people and wrong situation ？？

HOPELESS。

Simply because no one challenged them in parliament and the number of oppositions are just not enough to challenge their decisions.

As such with their loss touch with the ground, they continue to run the country as they pleased. The many MPs who supposed to question for the sake of their constituents representation are merely not there, instead simply echo or parrot the failed policy that their leaders have made.

It proves more than ever that having many same party members in parliament will only see wrong policies being made which in the end suffer by the majority of the people within the country. Taiwan is another good example.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - RichDad - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 11:22 AM)kangtangman Wrote: Just received a WhatsApp message with recording made by a guy claiming that PM is likely to announce the approval use of Sinopharm.

Reason is because the recent cases where a Chinese national returning back to FUJIAN with the delta variant. And that the Chinese were able to contain with a lockdown for a month.

And now the only way to turn this around is to have Temasek to give away a few thousands senior personnel to get vaccinated with Sinopharm for free.

This guy also mentioned that this administration is running at loss now where the number of infections rises from few hundreds into thousands within weeks.

With Temasek chairperson who is the wife of PM has the capacity to give away this to “save” our people….in my opinion, this further proves that this leadership is rubbish and contradicts what this Task Force is advocating by not having a lockdown or CB…..this government of ours have loss touched with the ground with their high remunerations and we need to question do they worth the money we all paid for?

Temasek chairman is Lim Boon Heng. Dowager is chairperson of Temasek Trust Board. But she is still very involved in Temasek affairs.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - kangtangman - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 11:55 AM)RichDad Wrote: Temasek chairman is Lim Boon Heng. Dowager is chairperson of Temasek Trust Board. But she is still very involved in Temasek affairs.

Yes indeed. A lot of information need to control and keep close to their chest. Because if there is someone who can open up the book the risk of past bad investments will be surfaced.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - Gstalk - 09-10-2021

Well you have to live with it because Godfather said so

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - KimJL - 09-10-2021

Haha. Talk so much crap...

So free ah? Go help in the hospitals lah.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - theold - 09-10-2021

We are never wrong. Just live with it.

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RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - theold - 09-10-2021

We are just ants on the ground. This is life. They control our destiny. But we must always be ahead of them.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - [[ForeverAlone]] - 09-10-2021

Mark my words, they will FLIP PRATA YET AGAIN AS USUAL.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - debono - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 04:08 PM)theold Wrote: We are just ants on the ground. This is life. They control our destiny. But we must always be ahead of them.

We are but a digit here, and we have no say in what the MIW do, cos they are the majority in Parliament.......

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - Huliwang - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 04:09 PM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote: Mark my words, they will FLIP PRATA YET AGAIN AS USUAL.

Actually the living with covid model is an experiment and not that the MTF or any so called experts out there know it will succeed. It is still tikam tikam stage. I heard LW said they noticed Europe had a big wave of spiking while we were doing the zero covid model with circuit breaker and now the infection in Europe has fallen and stabilized. So they think that the West are smart and we naive and decided to change strategy to living with covid by implementing herd immunity.

Who knows Europe might suddenly have a 3rd wave which can be bigger than the last wave to prove them wrong again........ Rolleyes

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - [[ForeverAlone]] - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 04:32 PM)Huliwang Wrote: Actually the living with covid model is an experiment and not that the MTF or any so called experts out there know it will succeed. It is still tikam tikam stage. I heard LW said they noticed Europe had a big wave of spiking while we were doing the zero covid model with circuit breaker and now the infection in Europe has fallen and stabilized. So they think that the West are smart and we naive and decided to change strategy to living with covid by implementing herd immunity.

Who knows Europe might suddenly have a 3rd wave which can be bigger than the last wave to prove them wrong again........

One thing, We have to SEE How Big SG is ? Europe countries how big? even the smallest countries in Europe the size , etc still bigger than SG.
They can afford partly have many states and is widely spacious apart , the people movement etc

Look at france lo they protest on bias vaccination , a lot don't even care wear mask, and yes they are really living with Covi19

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - cf9 - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 08:19 AM)Sentinel Wrote: It is not true like what dumbo LW said that most will be infected and then recover at home and will be fine

There are severe underlining issues and questions not answered in such a dubious strategy

1. Recover at home when infected means likely to spread to other members of the household and then later spread to outsiders
The chain will not be broken, isn't this suicidal?

2. There is long-tail effect after recovering from Covid infection
Who's responsibility is it then? We want to be treated in hospital, as this is what our taxes paid for - Affordable Healthcare is ingrained in our Constitution

3. Why after full dose of P & M crap, still can get infected and can spread and can die from it? This means that by hook and by crook we must not be infected and
recovering at home means it is very unavoidable to spread the virus from one member to another

4. Who should be held accountable for raiding our National Reserves to procure billions of dollars worth of the crap P & M, only to have a total failure of the vaccination exercise with such high numbers and rising and besides this, the mRNA vaccine has long term unknown side effects, for example nervous system damage, ADE, cancer, infertility, etc

5. Why PAP MOH never use their brain a bit and observe China and Hong Kong and notice that these two countries are back to normalcy because they use de-activated virus vaccine, namely Sinovax, Sinopharm and in other countries that use Sinovac and Sinopharm, the Covid infection numbers have fallen down even while Delta variant has entered their countries

6. One death is one death too many. PAP MOH has blood on their hands and such a wishy washy irresponsible, non-accountable Recover At Home strategy just to save the Healthcare infrastructure means they never properly plan for this surge and now just throw the hot potato to the population and you die your own business

HongKong not country.

RE: We don't agree with PAP's nonsense strategy of Living with Covid Virus - Teeth53 - 09-10-2021

(09-10-2021, 04:19 PM)debono Wrote: We are but a digit here, and we have no say in what the MIW do, cos they are the majority in Parliament

Temasek Foundation offering on providing free SinoPharm vaccines. 2000 seniors as well as younger CHAS card holders, as part of a study.

Those who sign up will be offered free SinoPharm vaccines, plus free blood tests to check the neutralising antibody levels at different time periods, 3-6 blood tests depending on whether they do 2 shots or 3 shots.

Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines as booster shots, owing largely to a fear of side effects from the third dose of an mRNA jab.

Vaccines like Sinovac and Sinopharm use inactivated viral particles to teach one's immune system to make antibodies.