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Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - theold - 20-05-2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VaEtRI0Erc


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - theold - 20-05-2023

Beginning May 25, the Wagner Group will begin withdrawing its units from the city for "rest and retraining." Until then, defensive lines are set up in Bakhmut and the city is handed over to Russian regular forces.

https://www.magyarhirlap.hu/kulfold/20230520-prigozsin-bevettuk-artyemovszkot


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - sgbuffett - 21-05-2023

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/05/20/world/russia-ukraine-news


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - sgbuffett - 21-05-2023

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RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - RiseofAsia - 21-05-2023

Tell them to Fark off from Asia. Rotfl
They create the problem, they got to solve it themselves. Sound familiar.

大事化小,小事化无。

Don’t expect China to clear their poo.


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - cityhantam - 21-05-2023

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/russias-wagner-claims-bakhmut-kyiv-says-situation-critical-3503186
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RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - sgh - 21-05-2023

I saw videos it is not 100% true as there are still those stragglers or remnant troop hiding in streets and alleys but overall it seems it has been captured. However from the city outskirts Ukraine are mounting offensive and look successful. They could be planning to retake the city it seems.


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - singlon - 21-05-2023

At Hiroshima ahQua admitted Putin's success
Nothing is left at Bakhmut
https://youtu.be/QWc3KExbTMU?list=PL1yqRrBFrqB9L40D0MUcNTV2A6fY9b1Q0


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - singlon - 21-05-2023

beri sad now
[Image: Screenshot-2023-05-21-at-17-38-04-Bakhmu...tory-W.png]


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - ysh02 - 21-05-2023

After they win what next ?....which city ?


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - ysh02 - 21-05-2023

He said not yet lost...still fighting lah...


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - lvlrsSTI - 21-05-2023

(21-05-2023, 05:46 PM)ysh02 Wrote:  After they win what next ?....which city ?

Get paid and move out


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - ysh02 - 21-05-2023

Very good , the big fat bonus for helping so long...rest one month later then go for another family .. .


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - theold - 21-05-2023

For Wagner's group, their objective has been achieved. For Putin, it is not there yet.


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - Tee tiong huat - 22-05-2023

(20-05-2023, 10:49 PM)theold Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VaEtRI0Erc

F-16 Fighting Falcon from Dutch Ministry of Defence, 28 fighters coming to Ukraine. These planes will eventually be handed over to Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The day before, it became known US had approved the training of Ukrainian pilots and would not block the re-export of F-16s to Ukraine.😁😄😃😀


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - lvlrsSTI - 22-05-2023

(22-05-2023, 11:09 AM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  F-16 Fighting Falcon from Dutch Ministry of Defence, 28 fighters coming to Ukraine. These planes will eventually be handed over to Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The day before, it became known US had approved the training of Ukrainian pilots and would not block the re-export of F-16s to Ukraine.😁😄😃😀

Giving F-16 is one thing training the pilots is another thing…unlike driving a bus it takes years to train Ukrainian pilots who are only familiar with Russian fighter jets


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - Tee tiong huat - 22-05-2023

(22-05-2023, 11:17 AM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  Giving F-16 is one thing training the pilots is another thing…unlike driving a bus it takes years to train Ukrainian pilots who are only familiar with Russian fighter jets

Germamy, US, UK, Dutch' even Poland and others is is now training manyUkrainian pilots...😁😄😃😀


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - lvlrsSTI - 22-05-2023

(22-05-2023, 11:38 AM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Germamy, US, UK, Dutch' even Poland and others is is now training manyUkrainian pilots...😁😄😃😀

It takes average 5 years to train a new pilot. By the time training completes, the war will be over…Likely the NATO pilots fly F-16 on behalf of Ukrainian pilots.


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - Niubee - 22-05-2023

Flew by NATO pilots


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - sgh - 22-05-2023

(22-05-2023, 11:46 AM)Niubee Wrote:  Flew by NATO pilots

If that is the case isn't it an official declaration of war against Russia? If that is so the nato countries need to issue an official statement they are going to war with Russia. Right now they secretly do at the air, ground etc not gentleman conduct but nato countries ain't gentleman anyway.


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - Tee tiong huat - 22-05-2023

(22-05-2023, 11:17 AM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  Giving F-16 is one thing training the pilots is another thing…unlike driving a bus it takes years to train Ukrainian pilots who are only familiar with Russian fighter jets

Summary of 2 Ukrainian Pilots other F-16 4th generation in US after 5 months training.  Clapping

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rTYmNSu6qHc3yBTwu2fJMyKQF0srCVGl/view


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - Tee tiong huat - 22-05-2023

(22-05-2023, 11:45 AM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  It takes average 5 years to train a new pilot. By the time training completes, the war will be over…Likely the NATO pilots fly F-16 on behalf of Ukrainian pilots.
To ukrainian pilot: Only take 5-months training to fly F-16 with 4-years flying M-29 or Su-27.  Clapping

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rTYmNSu6qHc3yBTwu2fJMyKQF0srCVGl/view


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - lvlrsSTI - 22-05-2023

(22-05-2023, 04:42 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Summary of 2 Ukrainian Pilots other F-16 4th generation in US after 5 months training.  Clapping

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rTYmNSu6qHc3yBTwu2fJMyKQF0srCVGl/view

How long does it take to train a F-15 pilot?

Pilots will then attend Introduction to Fighter Fundamentals (IFF) lasting about 3 months. Finally, pilots will attend the F-35 Basic Course (B-Course) lasting approximately 9 months at either Luke AFB or Eglin Air Force Base.

Well, they just got the licenses, need to practise for months if not years. Even for driving licence you get L-plate, P-Plate and full licence.


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - lvlrsSTI - 22-05-2023

How hard is it to become an F-15 pilot?

It is extremely hard to become a fighter pilot.

On average, each year only three candidates become fighter pilots out of over 1000 applicants. After obtaining a bachelor's degree it only takes two years to become a fighter pilot, but these two years are grueling with intense training and tests.


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - sogo - 22-05-2023

why those wagner group so powerful can fight with nato?


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - lvlrsSTI - 22-05-2023

(22-05-2023, 06:05 PM)sogo Wrote:  why those wagner group so powerful can fight with nato?

They are well trained professionals


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - sogo - 22-05-2023

(22-05-2023, 06:08 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  They are well trained professionals



but nato provided so much weapons and training still cannot make it.


RE: Wagner Chief declares victory in Bakhmut; 'Ukrainian City's takeover complete' - lvlrsSTI - 22-05-2023

(22-05-2023, 06:39 PM)sogo Wrote:  but nato provided so much weapons and training still cannot make it.

Many of the weapons provided are now sold in black market, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries, the speed of consumption of weapons and ammunition is unbelievable fast (that is suspicious)and Zelensky keeps asking for more and more.