(24-10-2021, 05:32 AM)Stoki Wrote:  Means cannot go out and have a meal in hawker center and cannot buy goods in shopping mall for those unvax

(24-10-2021, 05:32 AM)Stoki Wrote:  Means cannot go out and have a meal in hawker center and cannot buy goods in shopping mall for those unvax

(24-10-2021, 07:33 AM)wendychan Wrote:  its not just cannot buy goods
it soudns like shooping only

the way PAP design this country with their satellite towns and the mall provoiding most services. unlike other countries where there are many stand alone shops everywhere

PAP said it was a conveneice to have most things in a mall

now they are using it agasit the unvax

they all need to get covid and die a  horrible death and burn in hell

(10-10-2021, 09:40 PM)Ola Wrote:  Davids Davids


Dear PM Lee and your MTF, may I clarify the following on behalf of the very confused nation:
1) Most vulnerable elderly do not frequent malls or supermarkets, nor cafe or restaurant, they prefer to go markets, coffeeshop, hawker centres. How would the new measures protect them effectively?

2) Since SG is multi racial countries, your sms system should be in qua-languages as we are reaching out to the vulnerable elderly. Most seniors staying in some very matured estates were totally lost with such English sms when receiving such warnings sms, not to mention those staying alone.

3) Shouldn't ART be distributed to per household MEMBERS instead of per households? Eg, 10 kits to 2 pax per household vs 10 kits to 5 pax per household

4) How do you ensure vaccinated symptomatic ART +ve cases refrain from going out especially to crowded places, especially if on public transports, since is self-administered? Many have knowingly been out and about even after testing positive. History has shown there are many defiant people who flouted covid rules. Aren't these peoples threatening the health and safety of others?

5) How about people vaccinated with mRNA vaccines more than the 6months effective period or 143days and did not go for booster? Are they not considered unvaccinated?

6) Is giant @Tampines a standalone supermarket? Pls provide a clear list of such supermarkets for ease of nation reference.

7) How would the unvaccinated go for their vaccination where the appointment is with vaccination center at Raffles City convention center?
�� Coffeeshops are not fence up currently and do not have safe entry. How are coffeeshop and stalls owners going to check on every single diner for their vaccination status? Any govt official checking as well?

9) How would those unvaccinated continue to go for their routine medical checkup/dental appointment/TCM treatment inside the malls, eg? Paragon, Takashimaya, neighbourhood malls?

10) Kids <12yo are not vaccinated, how do they go for their enrichment classes inside malls, eg. Forum, United Square, Bedok mall?

11) How about retail staff working inside mall who might not have been vaccinated due to (said) medical grounds?

12) Why rush into opening the borders to 8 more countries from 19 Oct when healthcare workers (HCW) are currently overwhelmed and with inactive registered HCW being activated?

13) Hotels are not considered places of attraction, so the unvaccinated can still goes staycations with family to utilise SingapoRediscovers Vouchers?

14) Singapore has said that vaccination is non-mandatory; our nation should be given the option to choose, why then all such measures towards unvaccinated? These measures are not targeted at the right pool of people. The vulnerable elderly who is mostly not working and not restraint by these rules at all, no WFH, no HLB, no malls! They are at the void deck, at coffeeshop, at hawker centres, at markets. Are you penalising the wrong group of adults who can better exercise care and discretion and personal responsibility?

15) Unvaccinated now have to travel further to go standalone supermarket on public transport. Please advise the measures on mrt/bus to ensure they will not be infected cases onboard?

16) Many cyclists on the road are riding in companies of >2pax. Why no enforcement on those?


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(24-10-2021, 05:32 AM)Stoki Wrote:  Means cannot go out and have a meal in hawker center and cannot buy goods in shopping mall for those unvax

(24-10-2021, 08:11 PM)mrclubbie Wrote:  china and european nations are the real ones going endemic.

yes, china has this zero tolerance towards covid, keep on lockdown whenever got isolated cases.

but in general, people in china and european nations already abandoned masks and opened up long ago.

sg ? pretending to go endemic, new normal, discrimination against unvaccinated, further tightening of measures against locals while opening doors big big for foreigners

really nonsensical

(24-10-2021, 08:14 PM)Galilo_l Wrote:  Hi Mrclubbie welcome to sgtalk.net
Yes one lane for sinkies n exclusive privileged lane for FTs

(24-10-2021, 02:57 AM)Galilo_l Wrote:  Endemic living means...

(24-10-2021, 08:50 PM)forum456 Wrote:  It is not about endemic living.
It is about how to open up Singapore to the world quickly with less casualty.

Endemic living is how to have no casualty during pandemic.

Once you have daily deaths , it is not endemic living, it becomes a gamble to balance economic benefits and covid deaths.