Scripture readings for Christmas

(23-06-2025, 10:28 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  When? The red heifers will be turned into beef stew before the messiah's arrival.

The red heifers already arrived in Israel a few years ago but they need to wait for their Messiah to emerge. 

https://www.jpost.com/judaism/article-717650
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(23-06-2025, 10:16 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  According to Ahmadis who are moslems, they believe the messiah is not Jesus Big Grin

Yup. The Ahmadis are indeed a strange bunch. But they are only like 0.01% of the Muslim population so we can call them a really really fringe group of deviants.
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(23-06-2025, 10:14 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  What is therd to guess?
Neither Judaism nor Christianity identifies the angel Gabriel as the Holy Spirit....so how can the Quran be from God? Laughing

Is the angel Gabriel a spirit? Yes. Is the angel Gabriel holy? Yes

But of course, Judaism and Islam doesn't say the Holy Spirit is God. 

Do you know when the Holy Spirit was elevated to the status of God in Christianity?
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https://youtu.be/f5icNdFZAeI
Jesus spoke to me

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(23-06-2025, 12:43 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  https://youtu.be/f5icNdFZAeI
Jesus spoke to me

How do you know it was Jesus?
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(23-06-2025, 12:32 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  God is one with no partners. Muslims are taught that from childhood.

Same as jehovah  witness

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(23-06-2025, 12:47 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Same as jehovah  witness

Jesus's God is also one with no partners.
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(23-06-2025, 12:45 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  How do you know it was Jesus?

How u know it was not Jesus?

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(23-06-2025, 12:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Jesus's God is also one with no partners.

Your religion is 2 in 1 leh

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(23-06-2025, 12:50 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  How u know it was not Jesus?

I don't know. It is not I who needs to know for sure. 

So, how do you know it was Jesus?
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(23-06-2025, 12:50 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Your religion is 2 in 1 leh

Ok noted.

LOL
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Heard the trumpet sounds 3 times at this moment
at different places each day

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(23-06-2025, 12:51 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't know. It is not I who needs to know for sure. 

So, how do you know it was Jesus?

I believe it was Jesus!

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(23-06-2025, 12:56 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  I believe it was Jesus!

Ok.

A belief without evidence can still be true.
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(23-06-2025, 12:34 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The red heifers already arrived in Israel a few years ago but they need to wait for their Messiah to emerge. 

https://www.jpost.com/judaism/article-717650

The cows would have died due to old age while waiting for the messiah to arrive!
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(23-06-2025, 01:22 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The cows would have died due to old age while waiting for the messiah to arrive!

LOL

Yeah.. you're right. They must hate the Palestinians for fighting back.
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(23-06-2025, 12:39 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is the angel Gabriel a spirit? Yes. Is the angel Gabriel holy? Yes

But of course, Judaism and Islam doesn't say the Holy Spirit is God. 

Do you know when the Holy Spirit was elevated to the status of God in Christianity?

The Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit and angel Jibril is angel Jibril....

Jibril is a messenger while the Holy Spirit is involved in creation, inspiration, and the impartation of spiritual gifts...

The Holy Spirit was elevated to the status of God by the church fathers after much writings and studies
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(23-06-2025, 01:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit and angel Jibril is angel Jibril....

Jibril is a messenger while the Holy Spirit is involved in creation, inspiration, and the impartation of spiritual gifts...

The Holy Spirit was elevated to the status of God by the church fathers after much writings and studies

So, it is not wrong to say Gabriel is holy and a spirit. Ergo, a holy spirit. But of course, not in the same sense like the Christian's holy spirit which is the third person of the Trinity.

Btw, do you know that Isaac Newton rejected the Trinity? Why do you think one of the most brilliant mind of the modern world reject the Trinity?
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(23-06-2025, 01:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So, it is not wrong to say Gabriel is holy and a spirit. Ergo, a holy spirit. But of course, not in the same sense like the Christian's holy spirit which is the third person of the Trinity.

Btw, do you know that Isaac Newton rejected the Trinity? Why do you think one of the most brilliant mind of the modern world reject the Trinity?

Isacc Newton is a Unitarian..he is free to interpret his way while I can also say Johannes Kepler a German astronomer and mathematician is a firm believer in the Trinity
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https://youtube.com/shorts/wY1di9bHmYo?s...k29QaJ0ybl

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(23-06-2025, 07:00 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Show me where the Quran gets it wrong about the Trinity.

Show me where the Quran gets it right about the 3 persons of the Trinity.
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Cool 

(23-06-2025, 09:56 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We believe, when the son of Mary pbuh returns, he will destroy Christianity.

In full justice, the Islamic Isa should destroy the higher being who created the mess, shouldn't he?
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(23-06-2025, 03:58 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  In full justice, the Islamic Isa should destroy the higher being who created the mess, shouldn't he?

Who was it who wanted to kill the Messiah?
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(23-06-2025, 03:48 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Show me where the Quran gets it right about the 3 persons of the Trinity.

The Quran simply warns people to stop saying 3.

God is one, absolute.
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(23-06-2025, 04:46 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who was it who wanted to kill the Messiah?

Who are the anti-Christ?
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(23-06-2025, 04:48 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Quran simply warns people to stop saying 3.

God is one, absolute.

If the Quran wants to warn people, then it should also tell them not to mention the names of the 3 persons ..Why did the Quran fail to even address their names?

Why is Mary involve in the Trinity?
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(23-06-2025, 05:11 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If the Quran wants to warn people, then it should also tell them not to mention the names of the 3 persons ..Why did the Quran fail to even address their names?

Do you think Christianity is the only one that says God is a Trinity?
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(23-06-2025, 05:11 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why is Mary involve in the Trinity?

The Quran didn't say Mary is a third of the Trinity.
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(23-06-2025, 05:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Who are the anti-Christ?

The false messiah is just one person. We know him as Dajjal, the deceiver.
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https://youtu.be/k-psL86f98k?si=7gFqwvcB-fJslzTi

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