[forum456]

https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/for...eer-switch

[keys]

I dont get it ..unless you are jobless then you talk about mid career change

[Ola]

The title is wrong and just another

Jac Lau trying to lie and mislead others

If you must go through mid- career switch means

must forgo the dream/ goal you have pursued

This idiotic dimwit like Jac is saying people have many dreams

and can spend 200 years pursuing all of it, arh?

[Blasterlord2]

The young man who wrote in doesn't understand the reality in this world. The 'runway' concept is not just in Singapore but in many countries. Age is the single and biggest obstacle to make a career switch. Just ask yourself, if you're an employer, why would you employ someone who is slower in learning, ossified yet demands a higher salary? 

Of course they may come with experience, but make sure they have a lot of that to compensate all the downsides that come with age.

[forum456]

The young man who wrote in doesn't understand the reality in this world. The 'runway' concept is not just in Singapore but in many countries. Age is the single and biggest obstacle to make a career switch. Just ask yourself, if you're an employer, why would you employ someone who is slower in learning, ossified yet demands a higher salary? 

Of course they may come with experience, but make sure they have a lot of that to compensate all the downsides that come with age.

The young man is talking about a mid-career change. A policeman becoming a doctor.
As long as the middle aged policeman can pass the test , he will become a doctor with the same salary as the young doctor.
This is possible in USA but not in Singapore due to ageism.

[forum456]

The young man who wrote in doesn't understand the reality in this world. The 'runway' concept is not just in Singapore but in many countries. Age is the single and biggest obstacle to make a career switch. Just ask yourself, if you're an employer, why would you employ someone who is slower in learning, ossified yet demands a higher salary? 

Of course they may come with experience, but make sure they have a lot of that to compensate all the downsides that come with age.

In USA, you can become President of USA even if you are above 70 years old.
Joe Biden is an example

In Singapore, you cannot become the Prime Minister if you are above 60 years old.
Heng Swee Kiat is an example.

[Blasterlord2]

The young man is talking about a mid-career change. A policeman becoming a doctor.
As long as the middle aged policeman can pass the test , he will become a doctor with the same salary as the young doctor.
This is possible in USA but not in Singapore due to ageism.

That guy based his understanding on a show. In reality, this is not common even in the United States.

[Blasterlord2]

In USA, you can become President of USA even if you are above 70 years old.
Joe Biden is an example

In Singapore, you cannot become the Prime Minister if you are above 60 years old.
Heng Swee Kiat is an example.

These are people with networks, and they're often pushed up there by powerful people with agenda. Singapore doesn't have such system which is good.

Career change is a different matter from the above.

[Blasterlord2]

It's difficult too in the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/18/even-35-...neers.html

[forum456]

That guy based his understanding on a show. In reality, this is not common even in the United States.

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/med-school-after-40

The above link shows it is common in USA.\
It is impossible in Singapore

[forum456]

These are people with networks, and they're often pushed up there by powerful people with agenda. Singapore doesn't have such system which is good.

Career change is a different matter from the above.

To become Prime Minister is also a career change.

Many middle aged top talents in private sector will not join PAP or enter politics if they think they are too old to become Prime Minister

[Ola]

We are not PAP Ministers/ Army Generals where jobs are reserved for us

He is too young and too naive.


https://mothership.sg/2021/09/saf-scdf-a...ecda-muis/

[Blasterlord2]

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/med-school-after-40

The above link shows it is common in USA.\
It is impossible in Singapore

The above link did not say that it's common. It only says that there are such people in the US.

I do agree that it's impossible in Singapore but that's because you're competing with all these very clever people who get perfect scores in their exams. Why would the school of medicine choose you?

[forum456]

It's difficult too in the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/18/even-35-...neers.html

ageism is a fact in every country.
In USA, the govt and employers are more willing to consider capability over age.
In Singapore , the govt and employers are not willing to consider capability over age.

[Blasterlord2]

ageism is a fact in every country.
In USA, the govt and employers are more willing to consider capability over age.
In Singapore , the govt and employers are not willing to consider capability over age.

It's ideal that employers choose capability over age. But usually in mid-career change, nobody knows of your capability.

[forum456]

It's ideal that employers choose capability over age. But usually in mid-career change, nobody knows of your capability.

You can take a mid career course and pass the exam.
Employers can conduct tests for all candidates.
Whoever excel or top the tests will be recruited regardless of age

[icarus]

You can take a mid career course and pass the exam.
Employers can conduct tests for all candidates.
Whoever excel or top the tests will be recruited regardless of age

In the Utopian world that may be true

But in the real world old age puts you in disadvantage over young energetic candidates

[Blasterlord2]

You can take a mid career course and pass the exam.
Employers can conduct tests for all candidates.
Whoever excel or top the tests will be recruited regardless of age

Let's be clear about what jobs we're talking about. 

If it's medical/law school, your exam scores are used. If it's software, there could be tests. 

If employers can know about your capability through your track record they'll do it, otherwise they will not usually subject candidates through tests.

For jobs that are not so knowledge-based, feel free to go for your mid-career change

[forum456]

In the Utopian world that may be true

But in the real world old age puts you in disadvantage over young energetic candidates

World is not perfect but USA has a more inspirational system for mid career people than Singapore.
USA can proudly tells the world that their system rejects ageism and value capability over age.

In Singapore, all of us admit that ageism is common in our govt and employers.

[forum456]

Let's be clear about what jobs we're talking about. 

If it's medical/law school, your exam scores are used. If it's software, there could be tests. 

If employers can know about your capability through your track record they'll do it, otherwise they will not usually subject candidates through tests.

For jobs that are not so knowledge-based, feel free to go for your mid-career change

I used to tell my foreign friends that if they are old (above 40), do not come to Singapore to look for job due to serious ageism

[Ola]

Let's be clear about what jobs we're talking about. 

If it's medical/law school, your exam scores are used. If it's software, there could be tests. 

If employers can know about your capability through your track record they'll do it, otherwise they will not usually subject candidates through tests.

For jobs that are not so knowledge-based, feel free to go for your mid-career change

YES.

Mid- Career Professionals among PMs VS Mid- Career jobs amongst Rank & File

The later is never called Mid- career change because they can change jobs every 6 mths or 2 years

from Waitress to retail assistants, to warehouse assistants, to kitchen helper to cleaner . . .

It is never a career but mere jobs for them

[[[ForeverAlone]]]

TALK is CHEAP.

As USUAL.

But when come Done , Do it , is not easy etc.

One thing the current PAP just love to talk but come doing ? You go reflect how messy is it. End up? rush to do a " fast one " than claim Ok done.

[Sharexchange]

LJ midcareer la....i tell u......we are seeing younger people joining cleaners job..

[Wy:Nox]

This is hilarious. By the time you are 50 or 60 years old, physically and mentally weaker yet want to chase a lofty dream?

Please take my advice NEVER choose a mid- career path unless it can pay you at least 20% more otherwise, you put yourself in financial instability and lifestyle change.

However, if you are rich and can afford to start from the bottom of a new job, go ahead.

[Ola]

The young man is talking about a mid-career change. A policeman becoming a doctor.
As long as the middle aged policeman can pass the test , he will become a doctor with the same salary as the young doctor.
This is possible in USA but not in Singapore due to ageism.

PAP allow the middle- age to be exploited 

Their Mid-Career jobs are these

meaning many locals must take a 50% or 80% paycut

Vote PAP OUT.

[FangFang]

Depend on this switch scope lah..