is EV really environment friendly???
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I understand EV uses electricity to charge them, but electricity uses fossil fuel.

so more EV, require more electricity which in turn burn more oil, right???

so how to be good for climate and environment???

maybe one drum of oil can produce more electricity for more EV than if it is use in those petrol run vechicle.

like that than "yes" we burn less oil.
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#2

must be bad must be bad... Tongue

because china taking the lead LOLOLOL.... Tongue

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(02-04-2024, 12:04 AM)victortan Wrote:  I understand EV uses electricity to charge them, but electricity uses fossil fuel.

so more EV, require more electricity which in turn burn more oil, right???

so how to be good for climate and environment???

maybe one drum of oil can produce more electricity for more EV than if it is use in those petrol run vechicle.

like that than "yes" we burn less oil.

People already asking when that day come everyone EV car uses going to replace their car battery. How many electronic waste will it be. EPIC part is changing the battery is NOT CHEAP.

I don't feel surprise , those Car repair shop going to Sharpen their knife to chop EV car owners come replace battery.
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#4

TSLA increase their price by 1K in the US. Dont think that can help them in this quarter.
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(02-04-2024, 12:04 AM)victortan Wrote:  I understand EV uses electricity to charge them, but electricity uses fossil fuel.

so more EV, require more electricity which in turn burn more oil, right???

so how to be good for climate and environment???

maybe one drum of oil can produce more electricity for more EV than if it is use in those petrol run vechicle.

like that than "yes" we burn less oil.

It's environmental friendly because, EV do not produce green house gases, only the power plant. So the amount of green house gases produced are reduced. That's the concept. The science says to reduce green house gases so as to bring down global warming.
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(02-04-2024, 12:04 AM)victortan Wrote:  I understand EV uses electricity to charge them, but electricity uses fossil fuel.

so more EV, require more electricity which in turn burn more oil, right???

so how to be good for climate and environment???

maybe one drum of oil can produce more electricity for more EV than if it is use in those petrol run vechicle.

like that than "yes" we burn less oil.

The back of the electricity supply still needs to use fossil fuel.
We still haven’t found new replacement energy yet.
The good thing of EV car is that it uses less component meaning more environmental friendly.

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#7

but tesla car use lithium battery
they dont know where to throw after spoilt
https://youtu.be/s2xrarUWVRQ
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#8

At least we don't smell the burning fuel on the road.
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(02-04-2024, 01:26 AM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote:  People already asking when that day come everyone EV car uses going to replace their car battery. How many electronic waste will it be. EPIC part is changing the battery is NOT CHEAP.

I don't feel surprise , those Car repair shop going to Sharpen their knife to chop EV car owners come replace battery.

You don’t know China has started to use salt battery.
The raw material itself is only cost less than 5% of lithium ions batteries.

High Battery cost problem already resolved.

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#10

https://youtu.be/yqonpIhuI2M?si=WTzeTIW2JRjWC819

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https://youtu.be/8Dl4Ag5l8i8?si=ZL5HyRb-fyjGbj62

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#12

If EV never use can use as a large powerbank?

Confused
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(02-04-2024, 07:15 AM)singaporean1964 Wrote:  but tesla car use lithium battery
they dont know where to throw after spoilt
https://youtu.be/s2xrarUWVRQ

https://youtu.be/GC_mV1IpjWA?feature=shared
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#14

Burn oil in engine VS burn oil in power plant to generate electricity to store into engine. Where and what exactly is the source difference?
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(02-04-2024, 12:04 AM)victortan Wrote:  I understand EV uses electricity to charge them, but electricity uses fossil fuel.

so more EV, require more electricity which in turn burn more oil, right???

so how to be good for climate and environment???

maybe one drum of oil can produce more electricity for more EV than if it is use in those petrol run vechicle.

like that than "yes" we burn less oil.

China has environment friendly electricity supply with

1. Hydroelectric power
2. Solar power
3. Wind power
4. Nuclear power

But....... China....... must be bad lor!!!  Rotfl
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#16

Because car engines are internal combustion engines, they give out lots of chemical pollution on the roads. Aso petrol stations and car repair shops, very unhealthful places
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(02-04-2024, 07:15 AM)RiseofAsia Wrote:  You don’t know China has started to use salt battery.
The raw material itself is only cost less than 5% of lithium ions batteries.

High Battery cost problem already resolved.

Just 5 percent don't actually do much. If you claim 50 percent is a Huge difference here. One thing for sure car repair shop will quote High for replacing the battery. Yea is all about " Business, earning big Profits. "
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(02-04-2024, 12:42 PM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote:  Just 5 percent don't actually do much. If you claim 50 percent is a Huge difference here. One thing for sure car repair shop will quote High for replacing the battery. Yea is all about " Business, earning big Profits. "

Only OEM can do EV battery replacement, no aftermarket 3rd party workshops.
This means today's car workshop will die a natural death like Kodak film camera...

 Big Grin

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#19

(02-04-2024, 09:01 AM)ODA TETSURO Wrote:  If EV never use can use as a large powerbank?

All EVs are giant Powerbank....and most will allow you to power your microwave oven, hair-dryers using V2L adapter + mult-socket adaptors Big Grin

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(02-04-2024, 10:49 AM)red3 Wrote:  Burn oil in engine VS burn oil in power plant to generate electricity to store into engine. Where and what exactly is the source difference?

Electric-based system are easily has > 80% efficiency..

Oil-burning (aka ICE) enginres hardly achieve 20%...

The "source" difference is hydro-carbon run out...while another can be generated by other means.

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(02-04-2024, 07:15 AM)Clyde Wrote:  At least we don't smell the burning fuel on the road.

nor the noisy combustion engine...

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(02-04-2024, 01:19 PM)Manthink Wrote:  Only OEM can do EV battery replacement, no aftermarket 3rd party workshops.
This means today's car workshop will die a natural death like Kodak film camera...

 Big Grin

Govt do give rebate as usual Skillfuture come repair EV cars. I saw from News last year. They tag with a China EV company here. Teach car mechanic learn how to fix , repair EV cars. I only heard from others replace EV battery is not cheap is very very expensive. Partly because is not every time you replace of course. Is maybe after 5 years , near 10 years? By the time your COE already going to expire.
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(02-04-2024, 03:32 PM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote:  Govt do give rebate as usual Skillfuture come repair EV cars. I saw from News last year. They tag with a China EV company here. Teach car mechanic learn how to fix , repair EV cars. I only heard from others replace EV battery is not cheap is very very expensive. Partly because is not every time you replace of course. Is maybe after 5 years , near 10 years? By the time your COE already going to expire.

Hv to  - who hv the tech and knowledge to maint EV ? Only Chinese has such large scale experience.

Unlike changing engine oil or  mobile phone batteries replacement - competition forces EV makers to provide life-time warranty for EV batteries.

Buy end of the life, the battery, like much of the vehicle, will become part of recycling process.

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#24

EV is not environmental friendly. In fact it's going to cause an environmental disaster.
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