At this point PH has no other choice but to form Govt with BN
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For those who opposed the idea during Sheraton move, the aftermath following should have woke them. 

They should look at the end game, if they really want to make a difference.
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#2

Getting Najib out jail and dropping Zahid’s charges should be in the card.

Small price to pay to stave off the Islamic extremist. Who is the biggest foe, changes w time and environment
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https://www.malaysianow.com/news/2022/11...s-it-again
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https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asi...ost-ge2022
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https://www.malaysianow.com/news/2022/11...zahid-pact
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(20-11-2022, 10:42 AM)babushka Wrote:  Agree that PH has no other choice because the DAP is the arch enemy of PAS, making a PH PN alliance very unlikely

But, the DAP is also sworn Umno enemy.

Therefore the BN is inclined to ally with PN but may threaten to ally with PH as a bargaining chip with PN.

Zahid has some chance to survive upcoming Umno party elections by allying with PN, but that chance is as good as zero if he decides to go with PH.

Anyway, a PH-BN alliance will not survive the Umno party elections. The gov will collapse

A PN BN alliance is more stable.
BN has a black mark, brought out by Najib Razak......... Clapping
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Ph 82,
Bn 30
Total 112
Can firm a gov.
Unstable coz if one mp hop or dies then majority is lost.
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(20-11-2022, 11:03 AM)babushka Wrote:  For that reason Zahid will be forced to do what he should have done years ago, ie step down as how Najib stepped down when BN did poorly in 2018

During Najib's term in office, he was the PM as well as the Finance Minister, that is why he can usurp $4.5 billion in his tenure...... Angry
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PN (73) + BN (30) = 103  => cannot form govt

PH (82) + BN (30) = 112 => can form govt

PH has the highest chance to form stable Malaysia govt
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(20-11-2022, 11:17 AM)forum456 Wrote:  PN (73) + BN (30) = 103  => cannot form govt

PH (82) + BN (30) = 112 => can form govt

PH has the highest chance to form stable Malaysia govt
In  Malaysia's recent general election it is a hung parliament......... Laughing
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#11

It is do or die.

KUALA LUMPUR: Pakatan Harapan (PH) chairman Anwar Ibrahim reiterated on Sunday (Nov 20) that he has sufficient support to form a new federal government. 
However, he did not elaborate on which political parties he was collaborating with. 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/mal...112022_cna
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"I am happy because we have virtually settled this. With a level of support, I am confident, God willing, I will be given the chance, the opportunity to lead this country," said the Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) president.
When asked which parties he was collaborating with, Mr Anwar would only say: "Let them come out with their own statements (on the matter). Probably in the short term.”

Mr Anwar said during a press conference early Sunday morning that his coalition has managed to secure a simple majority to form the government, and will submit the documents to the king.
Meanwhile, GPS said on Sunday that it was ready to enter a coalition with PN, BN and GRS to form the next federal government.
In response, BN chairman Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said that BN has never negotiated with GPS with regard to forming a government with PN.
“No consultation with PN, to date, that could lead to an understanding to form a government with the coalition,” said Ahmad Zahid, who is also the United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) president.
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(20-11-2022, 10:59 AM)Bigbluedot Wrote:  Ph 82,
Bn 30
Total 112
Can firm a gov.
Unstable coz if one mp hop or dies then majority is lost.

MP cannot hop anymore.

Wherever you go, no matter what the weather, always bring your own sunshine Big Grin
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#14

What was traded in the meeting….. must not be spoken out….

The Sheraton Move, the gut wrenching betrayal from PKR & Bersatu, it will have taught PH a big lesson that they will never forget. Even Madhatter has become a relic of the past, sticking to his principles and whatnot, in the end no good ending for him and his son. Where is the loyalty and righteousness from his constituents and his old colleagues
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Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein says he is willing to be sacked from Umno for rejecting cooperation with Pakatan Harapan. In a Facebook post Monday (Nov 21),

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2...shammuddin
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(21-11-2022, 07:42 AM)p1acebo Wrote:  MP cannot hop anymore.

Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein says he is willing to be sacked from Umno
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Yah he will join Bersatu or PAS
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(21-11-2022, 06:18 PM)Teeth53 Wrote:  Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein says he is willing to be sacked from Umno for rejecting cooperation with Pakatan Harapan. In a Facebook post Monday (Nov 21),

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2...shammuddin

30 nos -One = 29 nos for Umno.
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