Canadian Leopard 2 tanks 'en route' to Ukraine
05-02-2023, 07:05 PM
05-02-2023, 07:10 PM
Canada and OZ are better third party candidate to donate weapons to Ukraine as they are far from Europe
05-02-2023, 07:22 PM
05-02-2023, 08:53 PM
I saw a video of a soldier saying the reward for every destroyed leopard tank will attract the Ukrainian soldiers to ownself destroy and then go and claim monies. Those monies so much more than what they are getting serving the army. In fact there is already a black market forming as Ukrainian soldiers start selling Western weapons as they dunno how to operate only those who are sent for training which maybe dead in battle so others dunno how to operate just sell to get monies.
05-02-2023, 08:57 PM
You need years to be good tanker.
Doubt the tanks is of any usage to Ukraine. Just for show unless the NATO forces drive the tank.
Doubt the tanks is of any usage to Ukraine. Just for show unless the NATO forces drive the tank.
05-02-2023, 08:59 PM
05-02-2023, 09:02 PM
(05-02-2023, 08:57 PM)Niubee Wrote: You need years to be good tanker.
Doubt the tanks is of any usage to Ukraine. Just for show unless the NATO forces drive the tank.
Well the Ukrainian soldiers can sell to get monies which is a feasible and practical option. Already dead Ukrainian soldiers family are saying the Ukraine try to avoid payout by refusing to acknowledge their deaths so think Ukraine no monies liao. Wonder if they can pay their alive soldiers every month consistently in battle or not
05-02-2023, 09:03 PM
05-02-2023, 09:06 PM
(05-02-2023, 09:03 PM)debono Wrote: I don't think operating a tank is so difficult, a soldier can learn to drive a tank in a couple of days...........
My elder bro in armour. It is not just about to operate a tank per se. E.g F1 racing car all drivers can operate but why others can race faster than others ?
05-02-2023, 09:09 PM
This will be a long war as it is about Supremacy in Europe and the World. How Putin can make it short is everyone's guess. Western countries are at War with Russia. It is just that they don't say it out.
05-02-2023, 09:10 PM
(05-02-2023, 09:02 PM)sgh Wrote: Well the Ukrainian soldiers can sell to get monies which is a feasible and practical option. Already dead Ukrainian soldiers family are saying the Ukraine try to avoid payout by refusing to acknowledge their deaths so think Ukraine no monies liao. Wonder if they can pay their alive soldiers every month consistently in battle or not
i heard some defected to Russia and fake their death in battle
05-02-2023, 09:10 PM
05-02-2023, 09:12 PM
By the time reach Ukraine.... leopard becomes pussy cat liao.
05-02-2023, 09:14 PM
(05-02-2023, 09:03 PM)debono Wrote: I don't think operating a tank is so difficult, a soldier can learn to drive a tank in a couple of days...........
Driving is one thing. Operating a tank to shoot enemies is another. We are not here to drive tank for F1 but to conceal and detect enemies and also hit them. That is a major issue.
05-02-2023, 09:15 PM
05-02-2023, 09:16 PM
(05-02-2023, 09:14 PM)Niubee Wrote: Driving is one thing. Operating a tank to shoot enemies is another. We are not here to drive tank for F1 but to conceal and detect enemies and also hit them. That is a major issue.
One thing that surface from Ukraine war is tank arty spotters and drone operators are high value target. Cripple them and the rest are not effective which has some truth in it I think. Good this war let other countries learn something new in real warfare. I dunno drones is so effective open up my eyes.
05-02-2023, 09:19 PM
(05-02-2023, 09:14 PM)Niubee Wrote: Driving is one thing. Operating a tank to shoot enemies is another. We are not here to drive tank for F1 but to conceal and detect enemies and also hit them. That is a major issue.
In a tank there is a crew, one to drive the tank, the others would operate the main gun, and still others will operate the communication system.........
05-02-2023, 09:25 PM
(05-02-2023, 09:10 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: i heard some defected to Russia and fake their death in battle
If you saw some video both Ukraine and Russia actually can say same language. How ironic same language speaking ppl killing each other all thanks to Zelensky ambition to join NATO. His ambition cost lives of so many.
05-02-2023, 09:28 PM
(05-02-2023, 09:25 PM)sgh Wrote: If you saw some video both Ukraine and Russia actually can say same language. How ironic same language speaking ppl killing each other all thanks to Zelensky ambition to join NATO. His ambition cost lives of so many.
aiyah
aiyah
the declaration of independence
the declaration of independence
hello
hello
does that ring a bell to you
english usa fight English british
05-02-2023, 09:29 PM
(05-02-2023, 09:25 PM)sgh Wrote: If you saw some video both Ukraine and Russia actually can say same language. How ironic same language speaking ppl killing each other all thanks to Zelensky ambition to join NATO. His ambition cost lives of so many.
Zelensky wants to join NATO and wants independence, away from the clutches of Russia..........
05-02-2023, 09:32 PM
(05-02-2023, 09:29 PM)debono Wrote: Zelensky wants to join NATO and wants independence, away from the clutches of Russia..........
So Zelensky is willing to sacrifice lives of so many Ukrainian for this independence? Is it worth it? Maybe can do a national poll see Ukrainian ppl agree with Zelensky or not after one year of war
05-02-2023, 09:34 PM
05-02-2023, 09:46 PM
05-02-2023, 09:48 PM
(05-02-2023, 09:16 PM)sgh Wrote: One thing that surface from Ukraine war is tank arty spotters and drone operators are high value target. Cripple them and the rest are not effective which has some truth in it I think. Good this war let other countries learn something new in real warfare. I dunno drones is so effective open up my eyes.
China has tech fixed on drones to detect submarine. There is some truth as how USA submarine was banged in SCS
06-02-2023, 08:53 AM
18-02-2023, 11:12 PM
被盟友坑惨了!只有德国受伤的世界达成!
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18-02-2023, 11:17 PM
Latest news is the number of leopard tanks may not be that many as promised. NATO stab Zelensky in the back.
18-02-2023, 11:20 PM
19-02-2023, 12:31 AM
(05-02-2023, 07:05 PM)theold Wrote: https://www.euronews.com/2023/02/05/cana...cow-attack
70T a pc.
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