Chicken Genius sold Tesla Put options....easy money?
#1

He sold puts for 400 Tesla shares @ $1000 strike price 1 yr expiry.

He collected $266 per put $266x400 =$106,400

Then goes on to say how easy money it is and how difficult it is to lose and  how others have to work for the money and he just make this money at a snap.


Options on US market a almost fairly priced meaning buyer and seller can only have a slight edge. The edge is usually in favor of the options seller.

All the if this and if that are just possibilities ...the statistical odds are already baked in.

Chicken genius will start to lose money when Tesla dips below $734 ...he had a cushion but the buyer of puts also has the benefit of not losing any more than his purchase cost of the puts should Tesla go wild fly to $2000.

The seller of option has edge similar to casino operating a roulette wheel..for $100K of bets collected his profit  is a few Ks not $100K. The main difference is the option seller has lumpy profits and losses ...when you average over time it is equivalent to a few % of his turnover..

Claiming big easy gains shows a failure to understand basics of options ...and this guy's was an options course peddler ...going up to the class and say do this do that and make easy money.....

I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
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#2

If one sells tesla puts $1000 puts and tesla plunges to $800+ ....what happens?

If Tesla goes down to $500 ...how?..
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I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
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#3

i dunno much abt options

he is selling puts to people ah\
not buyimg ah

if he buy 1000 puts he need to spend 400,000$
just to collect 100000 ah

if the tesla price drop
his puitt should worth less i think

if he is selling puts
pple pay him for the putt he sell
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#4

This Tesla will be going $680 or even $550.

This Chicken Genius will become Chicken Poops. Big Grin


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#5

(28-01-2022, 07:52 AM)5354 Wrote:  Ladies and gentlemen

If you holding Tesla stock like that chicken

You should be selling CALL options!

If price goes higher, you gain from your stocks

If price goes lower you gain from your CALL options

Get it?
That's the fundamental use of options.

If one holds the stock but thinks it will drop yet doesn't have intention to sell stock, then one buys put options and sell call option to leverage on position.

If the stock indeed dropped, the put option will cover the lose of main stock and the sell call option will be bonus.


For chicken genius, he holds stock and sell put long period, he is betting that in a year's time the stock will be higher than where he sold. Mean time he took the 100k to invest elsewhere or buy call option at the support level so net he should gain. Chances are he still very bullish that Tesla will rise above 1200 in a year's time.
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(28-01-2022, 09:58 AM)Sticw Wrote:  That's the fundamental use of options.

If one holds the stock but thinks it will drop yet doesn't have intention to sell stock, then one buys put options and sell call option to leverage on position.

If the stock indeed dropped, the put option will cover the lose of main stock and the sell call option will be bonus.


For chicken genius, he holds stock and sell put long period, he is betting that in a year's time the stock will be higher than where he sold. Mean time he took the 100k to invest elsewhere or buy call option at the support level so net he should gain. Chances are he still very bullish that Tesla will rise above 1200 in a year's time.

If bullish with mother stock just hooot the mother Stock can Liao ma why soooo ma fun buy options this chicken first time play options newbie to options confirmed +chop  Laughing
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#7

This options the price easily manipulated by MM so call market makers only Ah gong play this chicken with luck win little bit Liao now try to drive others to Holland wtf
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#8

(28-01-2022, 09:25 AM)Niubee Wrote:  This Tesla will be going $680 or even $550.

This Chicken Genius will become Chicken Poops. Big Grin
One year on....

The chicken pooped.....he lost US$165K on this "sure win" bet.

While losing money is no big deal in investing he made it sound like a sure win and called people "donkey" for not making this type of easy money.

I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
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#9

Aiya just ignore him lah. The more u post the more attention he'll get
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#10

(07-01-2023, 10:46 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  One year on....

The chicken pooped.....he lost US$165K on this "sure win" bet.

While losing money is no big deal in investing he made it sound like a sure win and called people "donkey" for not making this type of easy money.

How do you know he actually lost $165K? Don't be so naive and believe what anyone said.
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#11

only declares profit
thats why its genius
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