05-03-2022, 12:25 AM
【每日必看】戰機沒有.禁航不行.制裁等等..."烏克蘭孤軍"坐等血洗? @中天新聞 20220304
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China & Russia : 背靠背 Huat ah! Biden cham liao!
05-03-2022, 10:44 AM
(03-03-2022, 11:32 AM)kokee Wrote: change thread title to BS & lies again? all these commie liars here., spam & stir shit in this forum7/24.
This thread started 2-3 weeks ago, these dogs forever play with words & thread title to con & brainwash brainless here.
russia almost bankrupt, russian suffer, their family got food at home now with inflation surge to sky? ton of russian army surrender till today due to no food & oil, many very low morale & anti war, many do not want to die for putin, this nazi dictator.
where is russia 65 km of army troops? already 4-5 days still not arrive Ukraine yet? all these commie dogs bark like crazy dogs,now all so quiet & start tolie on other nonsense now, norm.
same as Russia rubbish data & number, actual casualty is 800% higher than their data & number.
俄海军陆战队810旅士气低落，拒绝再打仗！ 网传“基辅幽灵”击落俄军20架战机！ 俄罗斯经济崩溃了！ 赫尔松并未陷落，乌军依然在抵抗！
俄海军陆战队810旅士气低落，拒绝再打仗！ 网传“基辅幽灵”击落俄军20架战机！ 俄罗斯经济崩溃了！ 赫尔松并未陷落，乌军依然在抵抗！
俄官媒外泄事故！惊现死亡俘虏人数超官方通报8倍；俄军机非法侵瑞典领空！美军毒刺武器抵乌；国际法庭正式审判俄战争罪反人类罪
俄官媒外泄事故！惊现死亡俘虏人数超官方通报8倍；俄军机非法侵瑞典领空！美军毒刺武器抵乌；国际法庭正式审判俄战争罪反人类罪
as above, this thread title is the biggest liars in this forum, stir shit & create trouble, look for fight here 7/24.
more than 10 thousands russian army died now, how many Ukraine army died? 5x more as commieliarhere bark, got morons here believe this number?
communist news & video has no fact & truth totally, bark whatever they want & like, baselessnonsense.
泽伦斯基：近万俄军已被歼灭！ 乌军摧毁抵近基辅的俄军前锋！ 白宫要给乌克兰增加100亿美元援助！
泽伦斯基：近万俄军已被歼灭！ 乌军摧毁抵近基辅的俄军前锋！ 白宫要给乌克兰增加100亿美元援助！
05-03-2022, 08:21 PM
This is a very interesting insight by Dr Chandra Muzaffar on the Ukraine-Russia conflict. He has clearly and simply expressed the historical factors leading to the current situation.
UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERN OF THE OTHER.
Chandra Muzaffar
The mainstream Western media is almost unanimous in demanding that Russia and Vladimir Putin stop their military operation in Ukraine immediately. This in their opinion is the only solution to the current conflict. However, if one attempts to understand how the current conflict had evolved, one would ask not Russia but the US led Western alliance to bring down the political temperature as a first step.
The roots of the present conflict have to be traced back to the end of the Cold War in 1991. The leader of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR), Russia’s predecessor, Mikhail Gorbachev felt that if peace is to greet the demise of the Cold War then the military posturing that signified that era should be buried once and for all.
For his part, Gorbachev was prepared to dismantle the Warsaw Pact that the USSR helmed which was his country’s response to the US led North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO). All that he asked for in return was a firm commitment that NATO would not expand
eastwards, extend its military power to the states adjacent to Russia thus posing a security threat to the latter. Though the undertaking that Gorbachev sought was not engraved in written language,
American leaders at that time like President Ronald Reagan and Secretary of State James Baker had some notion of the gravity of the verbal pledge they had given to their Russian counterpart. It is a pity that in the years that followed, the US government made
no attempt to give substantive meaning to that pledge. On the contrary, in 1997, three former Warsaw Pact states, Hungary, the
Czech Republic and Poland, were invited to hold talks on joining NATO. On 27th March 2020, all 3 joined NATO, in spite of protests
from elements in the Russian leadership. A few other states that were once part of the USSR and others allied to Russia in the past
have now joined NATO.
It is against this background that one should view events in 2014 that exacerbated Russia –Ukraine ties in relation to NATO. These events are directly linked to the current conflict in Ukraine. The democratically elected president of Ukraine, Victor Yanukovich, who
was not prepared to follow blindly the dictates of Western powers was unceremoniously removed from power through the
manipulation of parliamentary procedures and replaced by a new regime more inclined towards Washington.
Though the Yanukovich government was seriously flawed in some ways, his engineered ouster which strengthened the hands of neo-Nazi and fascist elements, spawned virulent anti-Russian rhetoric and spiked street violence has left deep scars upon Ukranian society. The separatist tensions and turmoil in parts of Eastern Ukraine in the last eight years that have taken the lives of at least 14,000 people can only be understood within the context of this post-2014 scenario.
It is also this scenario that explains in part why Russian president Vladimir Putin acted the way he did in Crimea in Eastern Ukraine. The overwhelming desire among the vast majority of the people of Crimea to re-link their land to Russia affirmed in the 2014 Referendum is irrefutable proof of how ordinary citizens view their security and well-being.
This is why loose talk in Kiev and Washington in the last few months that ‘Ukraine should join NATO’ or that ‘ Ukraine should acquire nuclear weapons’ in the end produced a backlash effect. It increased anxiety among both elites and citizens in Russia about security concerns. It is important to emphasise yet again that this concern for their collective security as a nation and as a people is what Vladimir Putin, Sergei Lavrov and other Russian leaders have tried to convey to their counterparts in Washington, London, Paris, Berlin and indeed every other Western capital for more than 20 years since the end of the Cold War.
Simply put, Russia does not want a Western military alliance--- NATO --- perched at its gate. The West has refused to address this very legitimate concern. Worse, it has wilfully chosen to brush aside Russia’s fear. Bluntly put, Moscow has now been provoked to act. Since Washington in particular was not willing to use diplomacy to address Russia’s fear, its concern, Moscow has opted for a special ‘military operation’. Moscow’s response is perfectly understandable. It is completely rational.
Perhaps we should all remind Washington and the West of a fragment of their own history to help them appreciate better what is happening now in Ukraine. In 1962, there was a huge international political crisis. We thought we were on the verge of a world war. The USSR had deployed missiles in Cuba, on the soil of its ally, facing their common foe, the United States. Cuba was just 90 kilometres from the US shoreline. The US president, John Kennedy, saw it as an act of provocation. He wanted the missiles removed immediately.
Otherwise, he would attack Cuba. After some negotiations, Cuban leader Fidel Castro requested his Soviet friends to remove the
missiles. The Cuban crisis was defused. In response to Castro’s decision, Kennedy, it is alleged, undertook not to overthrow Castro through illegal means. Whether he kept his word or not, it was not really tested because Kennedy was assassinated in November 1963 before he could complete his second term as US president. Some of his successors tried to undermine Castro but that is another story.
Cuba 60 years ago is relevant to the present situation in Ukraine. Just as the US did not want Russian missiles at its doorstep in 1962,
Russia in 2022 does not want overwhelming Western military power at its gate today. The Cuban leadership understood what had to be
done to assuage American fears. One hopes that the US and Western governments today realise why it is so important to allay a legitimate Russian concern about its security.
In a nutshell both situations demand an appreciation of that ancient truth found in all spiritual and moral traditions: do not do to others what you do not want others to do to you. It is a truth that has been described as the fundamental ethic in relations between human beings, communities and states. It is, in plain language, the Golden Rule of Life. The US elite in particular has shown so little regard for this golden rule in international affairs.
Dr Chandra Muzaffar is the president of the International Movement for a Just World (JUST).
MALAYSIA.
25 February 2022.
UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERN OF THE OTHER.
Chandra Muzaffar
The mainstream Western media is almost unanimous in demanding that Russia and Vladimir Putin stop their military operation in Ukraine immediately. This in their opinion is the only solution to the current conflict. However, if one attempts to understand how the current conflict had evolved, one would ask not Russia but the US led Western alliance to bring down the political temperature as a first step.
The roots of the present conflict have to be traced back to the end of the Cold War in 1991. The leader of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR), Russia’s predecessor, Mikhail Gorbachev felt that if peace is to greet the demise of the Cold War then the military posturing that signified that era should be buried once and for all.
For his part, Gorbachev was prepared to dismantle the Warsaw Pact that the USSR helmed which was his country’s response to the US led North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO). All that he asked for in return was a firm commitment that NATO would not expand
eastwards, extend its military power to the states adjacent to Russia thus posing a security threat to the latter. Though the undertaking that Gorbachev sought was not engraved in written language,
American leaders at that time like President Ronald Reagan and Secretary of State James Baker had some notion of the gravity of the verbal pledge they had given to their Russian counterpart. It is a pity that in the years that followed, the US government made
no attempt to give substantive meaning to that pledge. On the contrary, in 1997, three former Warsaw Pact states, Hungary, the
Czech Republic and Poland, were invited to hold talks on joining NATO. On 27th March 2020, all 3 joined NATO, in spite of protests
from elements in the Russian leadership. A few other states that were once part of the USSR and others allied to Russia in the past
have now joined NATO.
It is against this background that one should view events in 2014 that exacerbated Russia –Ukraine ties in relation to NATO. These events are directly linked to the current conflict in Ukraine. The democratically elected president of Ukraine, Victor Yanukovich, who
was not prepared to follow blindly the dictates of Western powers was unceremoniously removed from power through the
manipulation of parliamentary procedures and replaced by a new regime more inclined towards Washington.
Though the Yanukovich government was seriously flawed in some ways, his engineered ouster which strengthened the hands of neo-Nazi and fascist elements, spawned virulent anti-Russian rhetoric and spiked street violence has left deep scars upon Ukranian society. The separatist tensions and turmoil in parts of Eastern Ukraine in the last eight years that have taken the lives of at least 14,000 people can only be understood within the context of this post-2014 scenario.
It is also this scenario that explains in part why Russian president Vladimir Putin acted the way he did in Crimea in Eastern Ukraine. The overwhelming desire among the vast majority of the people of Crimea to re-link their land to Russia affirmed in the 2014 Referendum is irrefutable proof of how ordinary citizens view their security and well-being.
This is why loose talk in Kiev and Washington in the last few months that ‘Ukraine should join NATO’ or that ‘ Ukraine should acquire nuclear weapons’ in the end produced a backlash effect. It increased anxiety among both elites and citizens in Russia about security concerns. It is important to emphasise yet again that this concern for their collective security as a nation and as a people is what Vladimir Putin, Sergei Lavrov and other Russian leaders have tried to convey to their counterparts in Washington, London, Paris, Berlin and indeed every other Western capital for more than 20 years since the end of the Cold War.
Simply put, Russia does not want a Western military alliance--- NATO --- perched at its gate. The West has refused to address this very legitimate concern. Worse, it has wilfully chosen to brush aside Russia’s fear. Bluntly put, Moscow has now been provoked to act. Since Washington in particular was not willing to use diplomacy to address Russia’s fear, its concern, Moscow has opted for a special ‘military operation’. Moscow’s response is perfectly understandable. It is completely rational.
Perhaps we should all remind Washington and the West of a fragment of their own history to help them appreciate better what is happening now in Ukraine. In 1962, there was a huge international political crisis. We thought we were on the verge of a world war. The USSR had deployed missiles in Cuba, on the soil of its ally, facing their common foe, the United States. Cuba was just 90 kilometres from the US shoreline. The US president, John Kennedy, saw it as an act of provocation. He wanted the missiles removed immediately.
Otherwise, he would attack Cuba. After some negotiations, Cuban leader Fidel Castro requested his Soviet friends to remove the
missiles. The Cuban crisis was defused. In response to Castro’s decision, Kennedy, it is alleged, undertook not to overthrow Castro through illegal means. Whether he kept his word or not, it was not really tested because Kennedy was assassinated in November 1963 before he could complete his second term as US president. Some of his successors tried to undermine Castro but that is another story.
Cuba 60 years ago is relevant to the present situation in Ukraine. Just as the US did not want Russian missiles at its doorstep in 1962,
Russia in 2022 does not want overwhelming Western military power at its gate today. The Cuban leadership understood what had to be
done to assuage American fears. One hopes that the US and Western governments today realise why it is so important to allay a legitimate Russian concern about its security.
In a nutshell both situations demand an appreciation of that ancient truth found in all spiritual and moral traditions: do not do to others what you do not want others to do to you. It is a truth that has been described as the fundamental ethic in relations between human beings, communities and states. It is, in plain language, the Golden Rule of Life. The US elite in particular has shown so little regard for this golden rule in international affairs.
Dr Chandra Muzaffar is the president of the International Movement for a Just World (JUST).
MALAYSIA.
25 February 2022.
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07-03-2022, 04:03 PM
(05-03-2022, 05:23 PM)Choc Wrote: You are a MORON and a sick bastard!
Go back to your muddysia bodohland and be a happy cina babi mahatiutiudey bootlicker
Wah, you make him so angry that he posted so many propaganda videos afterwards. Wonder anyone ever watch them.
Omni is in my ignored list. This works well like he always bumps my post for me all the time. Thank u Omni.
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More military infrastructure will be destroyed!
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