[Hope]

Why don you respect the parents of Muhammad son of Abd Allah bin Al-Muttalib and Amina bint Wahb?

Why are the names of his parents not mentioned together with Muhammad?

We do call him Muhammad bin Abdullah ,Messenger ,Illiterate Messenger,Prophet,seal of the prophets 

Since Jesus didn’t have father, Quran address him as Son of Mary, Sprit of Allah, Messenger, Prophet, Messiah 

So many titles for Jesus.One and and only prophet to have such honour by Allah.👍🙏👌❤️

[Lukongsimi]

We do call him Muhammad bin Abdulla ,Prophet,seal of the prophets 

Since Jesus didn’t have father, Quran address him as Son of Mary, Sprit of Allah, Messenger, Prophet, Messiah 

So many titles for Jesus.One and and only prophet to have such honour by Allah.👍🙏👌

U don’t believe our bible n expects us to believe in your Koran written 500 years later ?

[Hope]

U don’t believe our bible n expects us to believe in your Koran written 500 years later ?

We believe in Injeel(Gospel)Taurat (Torah)
My dear Brother, you have to Question Allah.You please read those Quran verses I posted today. Then you question your pastor and Allah .

We cannot do anything, Even Prophet Muhammad cannot do anything,

[pinkpanther]

We do call him Muhammad bin Abdulla ,Messenger ,Illiterate Messenger,Prophet,seal of the prophets 

Since Jesus didn’t have father, Quran address him as Son of Mary, Sprit of Allah, Messenger, Prophet, Messiah 

So many titles for Jesus.One and and only prophet to have such honour by Allah.👍🙏👌

Do not leave out the name of Muhammad's father...that is very disrespectful 

[Ali Imran]

U don’t believe our bible n expects us to believe in your Koran written 500 years later ?

If the revelation is from our Creator, does it matter when it was revealed? Surely not, it doesn't matter. If it is from our Creator, we won't question why it was revealed 500 years later.

After that, you will say you don't believe the Quran is from our Creator. I will ask you why. You must have a reason.

[Hope]

Do not leave out the name of Muhammad's father...that is very disrespectful 

Quran has mentioned the names of 25 prophets. Allah didn’t address them with fathers Names.

You know Most of those prophets fathers were prophets too.However Allah didn’t address them with their fathers Names.

Jesus is an exemption as He didn’t have a father.
We love and respect Jesus, The Messiah,Peace be upon him the day he was born ,dies and resurrected

[Oyk]

You don't need me to help you along if you are sincere in seeking knowledge about Allah and his messenger صلي الله عليه وسلم.

So far, you seek that knowledge from Jay Smith, CP, and other known similar liars. Why don't you also go to many mainstream ustaz available on youtube?

Go to youtube and search for:
Ali Ataie
Shabir Ally
Yasir Qadhi

To do a study of Islam. I would have to disappear from this forum for three years if I have grey matter, but since you said I lacked it, it may be double that taim, inshallah. 

Do you have objections if I seek help from Hope since you rejected me outright?  .....because studying alone is not easy, so some help from Muslims to keep me motivated is always appreciated.

Btw, I had watched Muslims debating.  Muslims like Ahmed Deedat and Zakir Naik stood out but there were others.  A lot of them had been caught lying.  But as I said, I don't care about the person, I listen to the points, and if their points are wrong, I will superstrike, and continue watching/reading  

As I said upthread, the Bible says all of us are sinners.  Do you not agree with that?  Even Muhammad had sinned.  Would you agree with the Bible or say that I insulted your prophet?  If you use the word insult so liberally, I think we cannot continue further.  But if you say, yes, Muhammad had also sinned but Allah had forgiven all his sins, we can talk.

Still, if we are going to discredit peepur because they did this, that, or the other, then I would not even want to listen to any pastor, imam, sheik, pope, monk, nun, period.

To give yew an exampur...have yew heard of Ven Ming Yi?  He's a monk whose name would be associated with Ren Ci Horsepeter.  He served taim.  He had made a mistake under our laws.  Today, he is the Abbot of Foo Hai Chan Monastery.  I don't lie. You can check it out on Google.  If a Buddhist quotes him, you will c/p news articles about Ming Yi and say, ugh! he committed a crime!  Don't listen to him! What Nirvana is he talking about?  What 4NT?  Rubbish!

Rev Kong Hee also served taim.  He's still sharing the Gospel in City Harvest Church.  You will again c/p news articles here, and ask How can God use such a man?  Goodness!  But I repeat, all men are sinners.  If God is not going use a sinner, who is He going to use?  Everyone is a sinner!  Well, truth be told, God had used/is still using ex-drug addicts, ex-gangsters for His ministry.  Not all pastors wear spectacles and are strawberry-Bibleworms.  A lot were hardcore fighters, gangsters...who wouldn't tremble in front of a tattooed gangster but dare to walk up to him to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with him.

So, if something that is said is found to be wrong, I discard it as wrong information.  I am referring to JS and CP for making mistakes either because they did not fact-check or spoke too fast and made a slip of the tongue 

Then, if it is right, the authentic records are there, I will seek further clarification if it makes me uncomfortable.  Here, I am referring to Muhammed.  I would write Pink off if he posts things, and it's only he says....chey!  Pink says this, Pink says that.  How much are they worth per kati? But if he quotes the Hadith or Quran, as the case may be, then he has a lot of credibility, do you not agree?

So, for exampur, I want to ask, why did Muhammad tell the two men who were sick to drink camel's urine?  There's no scientific evidence that says that camel's urine can heal whatever. Is that asking a fair question, or insulting your prophet?  If you say I am insulting him, tell me, and I will edit my post out of respect for your feelings, and direct the question to Hope.

[pinkpanther]

Quran has mentioned the names of 25 prophets. Allah didn’t address them with fathers Names.

You know Most of those prophets fathers were prophets too.However Allah didn’t address them with their fathers Names.

Jesus is an exemption as He didn’t have a father.
We love and respect Jesus, The Messiah,Peace be upon him the day he was born ,dies and resurrected

Why some Muslim names contain their father' name while some don.
Eg,.,, Mohd Sharil bin Ishak ....,Mohd Nor Alam Shah..why nor alam no father?

[Oyk]

If the revelation is from our Creator, does it matter when it was revealed? Surely not, it doesn't matter. If it is from our Creator, we won't question why it was revealed 500 years later.

After that, you will say you don't believe the Quran is from our Creator. I will ask you why. You must have a reason.

According to the Quran, there are many creators but Allah is the best of the creators.

[Hope]

Why some Muslim names contain their father' name while some don.
Eg,.,, Mohd Sharil bin Ishak ....,Mohd Nor Alam Shah..why nor alam no father?

Everyone should have a surname unless they are father less.
Arabs and some Malays add “Bin” in Arabic (son of)

Anwar Ibrahim ( his name and surname)No “Bin”

Some Tamil here follow Malays and add S/O (son of)to their names.Tamil in other parts of world don’t add S/O

[Oyk]

We do call him Muhammad bin Abdullah ,Messenger ,Illiterate Messenger,Prophet,seal of the prophets 

Since Jesus didn’t have father, Quran address him as Son of Mary, Sprit of Allah, Messenger, Prophet, Messiah 

So many titles for Jesus.One and and only prophet to have such honour by Allah.👍🙏👌❤️

Before there was a Quran, Muhammad's father was already called Abdul Allah?

Who was this Allah?

[Oyk]

We don’t worship to prophet Muhammad.
Have you seen how Muslim pray?is it the same way you pray to Jesus?

I understand that if you don't pray five taims a day with your forehead touching the ground, Allah will send you to hell, is that true?

[Oyk]

Pot calling the kettle black 🙄

Oyk is a sinner, what do you expect from him?  But you are righteous peepur.  Yet, you do these?  

[Oyk]

Nothing is impossible with God

Well said.

Nothing is impossible with God.

This is why I find it hypocritical when they say how can there be three Persons but one God?  They use human understanding and say that 1+1+1= 1 is not possible.

Yet, they say that God created this world from nothing.  Using human logic, that's also not possible because that would be 0+0+0 = Everything in this world.

[Lukongsimi]

If the revelation is from our Creator, does it matter when it was revealed? Surely not, it doesn't matter. If it is from our Creator, we won't question why it was revealed 500 years later.

After that, you will say you don't believe the Quran is from our Creator. I will ask you why. You must have a reason.

Simple reason
there are two paths n you are not sure which path leads to salvation.
two men are there, one is already dead,the other one still living 
so which man will u ask for direction? Follow the dead or follow the one who is still alive?

[Lukongsimi]

Well said.

Nothing is impossible with God.

This is why I find it hypocritical when they say how can there be three Persons but one God?  They use human understanding and say that 1+1+1= 1 is not possible.

Yet, they say that God created this world from nothing.  Using human logic, that's also not possible because that would be 0+0+0 = Everything in this world.

God created the world using the Word
Let us make man in our image why said us because they are combined as One God.

[Hope]

Before there was a Quran, Muhammad's father was already called Abdul Allah?

Who was this Allah?

Allah in Arabic mean God ,who created this universe .if Prophet Muhammad father had been name as Abdullah, It proves that his grandfather had faith in one God who created this universe.
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Arabs have been using word Allah even before Quran was revealed.

[Lukongsimi]

We believe in Injeel(Gospel)Taurat (Torah)
My dear Brother, you have to Question Allah.You please read those Quran verses I posted today. Then you question your pastor and Allah .

We cannot do anything, Even Prophet Muhammad cannot do anything,

Did your allah spoke to your muh? I won’t question something that gives no answer.

[Oyk]

If he had claimed to be God or son of God,I will put the same questions to his followers.

Your answer seems to be saying that since Muhammad did not claim to be Allah or the son of Allah, therefore he did not play with his KKJ and did not have wet dreams.

Is that what you are saying?

You confused me.  Please state clearly, what you wrote about Jesus, do all also apply to Muhammad including playing with his KKJ and having wet dreams?

[Hope]

God created the world using the Word
Let us make man in our image why said us because they are combined as One God.

Quran give different stories about Adam and Eve.I posted two videos yesterday. Please listen.

[Lukongsimi]

Quran give different stories about Adam and Eve.I posted two videos yesterday. Please listen.

I don’t like watch moslem videos gives me a spooky feeling.

[Oyk]

Allah in Arabic mean God ,who created this universe .if Prophet Muhammad father had been name as Abdullah, It proves that his grandfather had faith in one God who created this universe.
.
Arabs have been using word Allah even before Quran was revealed.

The Arabs were worshipping pagan gods and called him Allah.

Then, God asked Gabriel to pass the Quran to Muhammad.  And the Quran says that this god is Allah?  Is that what you mean?

[Lukongsimi]

Your answer seems to be saying that since Muhammad did not claim to be Allah or the son of Allah, therefore he did not play with his KKJ and did not have wet dreams.

Is that what you are saying?

You confused me.  Please state clearly, what you wrote about Jesus, do all also apply to Muhammad including playing with his KKJ and having wet dreams?

Nobody of sound mind would write such vulgarities against God.

[Hope]

Your answer seems to be saying that since Muhammad did not claim to be Allah or the son of Allah, therefore he did not play with his KKJ and did not have wet dreams.

Is that what you are saying?

You confused me.  Please state clearly, what you wrote about Jesus, do all also apply to Muhammad including playing with his KKJ and having wet dreams?

Of Course every question apply to all the males.It is not a secret. Haven’t you played with you kkj?
We don’t know if Prophet Muhammad did or not. He got married at his age of 25.We don’t know if he did before his marriage.
Anyway Jesus didn’t get marry even at his age of 33.

[Oyk]

You mean catholic are polytheists?

Let's not discuss Catholicism because we are now on Islam, and there are too many different topics flying around this thread already.

Perhaps, we can agree that the topic for this morning could be:  Shia vs Sunni?

Are you aware that the former created videos to laugh at the latter, while the latter produced videos to return the favour? 

For exampur, is it true that if you are having sex with your wife, you must not talk, or else your son or daughter will be born mute?  One sect said this, and the other sect mocked.  Your answer will tell me which sect you belong....

[Hope]

Nobody of sound mind would write such vulgarities against God.

He is not a God .
God no need to eat, sleep, bath and etc.

Jesus is in heaven now. He must be consuming food there too.

[Hope]

The Arabs were worshipping pagan gods and called him Allah.

Then, God asked Gabriel to pass the Quran to Muhammad.  And the Quran says that this god is Allah?  Is that what you mean?

Not all the Arabs were pagans.
Quran was revealed in Arabic. Allah had to use the appropriate word for one True God in Arabic .

[Lukongsimi]

He is not a God .God no need to eat, sleep, bath and etc.

He is God who came as Flesh and dwelled among man 
For God so loves the world that whosoever believes in Him will be saved.
He came not to judge but to save

[Lukongsimi]

Of Course every question apply to all the males.It is not a secret. Haven’t you played with you kkj?
We don’t know if Prophet Muhammad did or not. He got married at his age of 25.We don’t know if he did before his marriage.
Anyway Jesus didn’t get marry even at his age of 33.

Man needs to marry but not God.

[Oyk]

Nobody of sound mind would write such vulgarities against God.

It's blasphemous.  But since he is not a Christian, he would ask, how can it be blasphemous when Jesus is not God? Blasphemy only applies to God ma.

To him, Jesus is a prophet.  See what he wrote below.  He loves and respects Jesus and even added pbuh.  

So when he said that Jesus pbuh played with his KKJ and had wet dreams, I asked him if he would say the same about Muhammad pbuh.  His answer was confusing....because he seemed to be saying that Muhammed never played with his KKJ and never had wet dreams. 

Quran has mentioned the names of 25 prophets. Allah didn’t address them with fathers Names.

You know Most of those prophets fathers were prophets too.However Allah didn’t address them with their fathers Names.

Jesus is an exemption as He didn’t have a father.
We love and respect Jesus, The Messiah,Peace be upon him the day he was born ,dies and resurrected