[sgbuffett]

A good hybrid model with large public housing supply and small private supply.

I know many criticise HDB for various problems but if HDB does not exists we will have the housing problems in Taipei, Seoul and Tokyo. ...look at Hong Kong really horrid.

The idea of govt stepping up to supply the market in such a big scale for an advance country is unique. The system worked well if not the pap will be long gone. It served both a housing need as well as investment.

The system also directly credit land sales and housing sales directly back to govt which us an important source of revenuefor China local government. The pricing model using resale market as reference is well established. Yes some complain BTO price to high but remember we are living in a financial center hub in the same class as Hong Kong ...some say we recently surpassed Hong Kong....so price of housing cannot be cheap. If too cheap, somebody can buy BTO then flip it in resale market 5yrs later for hefty profits. 

By taking a big role in housing and doing it well the CCP can win adoration of the people. The entire housing mess it has today can be totally avoided.

Since the entire sector is a mess, the Chinese govt can play white Knight to partially nationalise the sector using HDB model.

[theold]

They have different types of properties. The common ones for residential are 70 years and can be renewed. They also have land given for plantations but can be taken back if not in use. They also have freehold properties. Not much different from us.

[WhatDoYouThink!]

most of their condos are already cheaper than yr 2bedder. even some of those just across the causeway are aso cheaper. how to sell yr idea to them?

[theold]

Properties titles can be local or mixed. The mixed type commands higher prices. Even for locals, there are restrictions on the area for that county to prevent the rise in prices. 

Some are not for the stock market.

[Bigbluedot]

There is a need to educate ppl to be less greedy for money.

[kangtangman]

They have different types of properties. The common ones for residential are 70 years and can be renewed. They also have land given for plantations but can be taken back if not in use. They also have freehold properties. Not much different from us.

Well said, when Deng XiaoPing engaged our former Toh ChinChye as consultant back in the late 80’s. China has very much adopted many of our policy. 

One will find there are many similarity in places like Beijing and Shanghai for owning a properties. And they too have similar ways in owning a vehicles too.

[Notdumb]

If HDB follow China model....we only need to pay TC fees of $10 to hv 100s of workers in the estate everyday 24/7 and hv full condo facilities.

[Napoleon Porlumpar]

A good hybrid model with large public housing supply and small private supply.

I know many criticise HDB for various problems but if HDB does not exists we will have the housing problems in Taipei, Seoul and Tokyo. ...look at Hong Kong really horrid.

The idea of govt stepping up to supply the market in such a big scale for an advance country is unique. The system worked well if not the pap will be long gone. It served both a housing need as well as investment.

The system also directly credit land sales and housing sales directly back to govt which us an important source of revenuefor China local government. The pricing model using resale market as reference is well established. Yes some complain BTO price to high but remember we are living in a financial center hub in the same class as Hong Kong ...some say we recently surpassed Hong Kong....so price of housing cannot be cheap. If too cheap, somebody can buy BTO then flip it in resale market 5yrs later for hefty profits. 

By taking a big role in housing and doing it well the CCP can win adoration of the people. The entire housing mess it has today can be totally avoided.

Since the entire sector is a mess, the Chinese govt can play white Knight to partially nationalise the sector using HDB model.

China's property bubble is due to the need to artificially create jobs for their high unemployment.................

[Sentinel]

TS seems to forget the Woody Goh era where asset enhancement blew up hdb prices artificially until it too collapsed like what is happening to China

Property prices go in a cyclé even in a place like Timbaktu or Causeway Bay or Donghai or Pandan Gardens

[forum456]

HDB housing model would have saved China from property  crisis...

HDB model cannot work in China because China govt cannot control the demand by importing many foreigners.

Singapore needs 50% of the population to be foreigners.
PAP can control the supply and demand of properties and thus can control the price

[Niubee]

Now TS has insulted our Govt and HDB is more communist that China.

[singlon]

still early days
consumer inflation has escaped
we dealing with Blackholes
remember black matter has infinitely amount of energy
don't play play.
Sotya Indo
Siva arrowed Samsara and missed by a moment
Indiens have been pouring milk over him eversince
to cool him down less all is destroyed.
t1 not equal to t2
cosmic dance continues

[Blasterlord2]

But we are facing a property crisis ourselves.

[singlon]

sotya
https://youtu.be/YjFHELB1xmo?list=RDYjFHELB1xmo

[singlon]

WuKong
https://youtu.be/QgyQJniS6pM

[WhatDoYouThink!]

ah butt doesnt work as a government consultant for sg or china is really a big waste of his talent and a great loss to them too.

[singlon]

TAIWAN
https://youtu.be/KK4-eMZmkvs?list=RDKK4-eMZmkvs

[Niubee]

ah butt doesnt work as a government consultant for sg or china is really a big waste of his talent and a great loss to them too.

打嘴炮很容易

[WhatDoYouThink!]

import tons of foreign talent but ignore local geniuses, really...

[Sentinel]

still early days
consumer inflation has escaped
we dealing with Blackholes
remember black matter has infinitely amount of energy
don't play play.
Sotya Indo
Siva arrowed Samsara and missed by a moment
Indiens have been pouring milk over him eversince
to cool him down less all is destroyed.
t1 not equal to t2
cosmic dance continues

Yeah, t1 is not equal to t2 and t2 is equal tó t3 which is equal to t1

[singlon]

precious cargoes

[singlon]

[singlon]

[singlon]

Iskander M

[singlon]

fractional reserve sys in critical condition
Banks in and out of US are in acute conditions

[RiseofAsia]

We also in deep poo now, Sg loan rate is rocketing.
Let see when Sg loan spike up to 5%, see who can still afford buying expensive property in Sg.
Rate spike is unidirectional, you cant reverse it easily. World recession is inevitable.

You see MAS is so panic now, within short period of time keep buying printed SGD. it is no use lah… How much can they buy?
You think they can reverse the market trend. Really wishful thinking. 这可是成精的通胀大妖兽。

[RiseofAsia]

A good hybrid model with large public housing supply and small private supply.

I know many criticise HDB for various problems but if HDB does not exists we will have the housing problems in Taipei, Seoul and Tokyo. ...look at Hong Kong really horrid.

The idea of govt stepping up to supply the market in such a big scale for an advance country is unique. The system worked well if not the pap will be long gone. It served both a housing need as well as investment.

The system also directly credit land sales and housing sales directly back to govt which us an important source of revenuefor China local government. The pricing model using resale market as reference is well established. Yes some complain BTO price to high but remember we are living in a financial center hub in the same class as Hong Kong ...some say we recently surpassed Hong Kong....so price of housing cannot be cheap. If too cheap, somebody can buy BTO then flip it in resale market 5yrs later for hefty profits. 

By taking a big role in housing and doing it well the CCP can win adoration of the people. The entire housing mess it has today can be totally avoided.

Since the entire sector is a mess, the Chinese govt can play white Knight to partially nationalise the sector using HDB model.

I have already said many times, never read history! 真糟糕！
只知其一 不知其二。

You didnt know HDx collapse before in AFC98?
Did you know at that time HDx “sold” flats to  institution. This was actually …….

Taiwan Enbloc is different from SG lah. They need 100% then can get it through.

In the past, buying hdb flat was to fully taking loan from HDB, now partly giving to private bank, why?

这样好赚的生意（before rate spike)为什么不做？

[RiseofAsia]

打嘴炮很容易

是很容易，可是他却是在胡说八道。

[sgbuffett]

https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/art...s-led-2008

[RiseofAsia]

https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/art...s-led-2008

There are 3 bubbles right now.. How come you only talk about China property bubble. China has pumping $$$ into property market recently. 

Can you share your view on the other 2 big bubbles.
How much rate hike can Fed proceed?
More Rate hike will kill overseas US companies. 

How much Yen can depreciate, once Yen cannot depreciate further, Yen bond will collapse.
Many siao gias are betting $1 to earn $100 for Jap to raise rate above 0.25%. It is worth  to take this risk. Now with Super lower rate, Jap got to fork up 20% of their income to pay bond debt.
Current Japan central banker only left 1 year on the seat. His successor will raise rate?