How come majority China people are speaking Cantonese after mandarin Chinese.
03-12-2022, 07:49 PM
How come majority China people are speaking Cantonese after mandarin Chinese. I thought most China people is speak Hakka after mandarin Chinese.
03-12-2022, 07:54 PM
U been to China ah?
03-12-2022, 07:58 PM
03-12-2022, 07:58 PM
(03-12-2022, 07:49 PM)LupCheong Wrote: How come majority China people are speaking Cantonese after mandarin Chinese. I thought most China people is speak Hakka after mandarin Chinese.
?? Expected as Guangdong's and Guangxi's total population is huge (mainly Guangdong). And HK too. That's why Bai Hua is very popular. Should be more popular than Hakka.
03-12-2022, 08:04 PM
03-12-2022, 08:09 PM
(03-12-2022, 07:58 PM)Levin Wrote: ?? Expected as Guangdong's and Guangxi's total population is huge (mainly Guangdong). And HK too. That's why Bai Hua is very popular. Should be more popular than Hakka.
Yup even in non-cantonese city like Shanghai or Beijing those variety show they will sometimes sing Cantonese song or speak in Cantonese but never heard them sing Hakka or teochew song.
03-12-2022, 08:15 PM
(03-12-2022, 08:09 PM)LupCheong Wrote: Yup even in non-cantonese city like Shanghai or Beijing those variety show they will sometimes sing Cantonese song or speak in Cantonese but never heard them sing Hakka or teochew song.
In China the majority of the population speaking Hakka is small, whereas Cantonese have a bigger population in China. The emperor of China had stated that all dialects speak Mandarin so as to unite China....and the Chinese characters are universal to all Chinese people.........
03-12-2022, 11:11 PM
Cantonese is nice sounding
Hakka sounds like farking kuniang speaking
Hakka sounds like farking kuniang speaking
04-12-2022, 06:45 AM
Because of the gathering of peoples and the main distribution and consumption centre of opium in Canton back then
04-12-2022, 07:44 AM
Because Hong Kong movies bah... At least that's how it goes for the last 5 decades... Lol
04-12-2022, 06:50 PM
Depend which area you are mah.
But since most of the earlier economy zone are established along the south east coastal area of AT land, so naturally these area are got more sexposure to foreigners and give the impression that most AT speak the local dialect of these areas mah.
Like moi the oversea assignment to AT land in the 2000s and early 2010s are mostly around the Guangdong provinces area one (including the shengzheng city too) ish got dip cantonese accent. Later ish visiting xia men more and many ish similar to our hokkien accent liao, then before the covid ish frequent shanghai and qingdao area more, the accent different again though the accent ish no longer familiar to moi since in red dot mostly ish got sexperience with hokkien, cantonese and teochew nia.
But since most of the earlier economy zone are established along the south east coastal area of AT land, so naturally these area are got more sexposure to foreigners and give the impression that most AT speak the local dialect of these areas mah.
Like moi the oversea assignment to AT land in the 2000s and early 2010s are mostly around the Guangdong provinces area one (including the shengzheng city too) ish got dip cantonese accent. Later ish visiting xia men more and many ish similar to our hokkien accent liao, then before the covid ish frequent shanghai and qingdao area more, the accent different again though the accent ish no longer familiar to moi since in red dot mostly ish got sexperience with hokkien, cantonese and teochew nia.
There was a time when the country asked ordinary men to do extraordinary things.
But now, they'll only do it for money.
04-12-2022, 07:49 PM
04-12-2022, 07:56 PM
(04-12-2022, 07:49 PM)cityhantam Wrote: Cantonese is only spoken by people of Guangzhou area.
No lah. Lots of places in the whole Guangdong speak Bai Hua such as Shunde, Foshan, Jiangmen etc. There are places in Guangdong that speak Teochew or Hakka instead (Meizhou, Shantou, Shanwei etc) but they are in the minority. Same in Guangxi as I know quite a few people from Guangxi. All speak Bai Hua. Then you add in that 10 million from HK where even Angmos, Africans and Indians speak Cantonese.
04-12-2022, 08:26 PM
(04-12-2022, 07:56 PM)Levin Wrote: No lah. Lots of places in the whole Guangdong speak Bai Hua such as Shunde, Foshan, Jiangmen etc. There are places in Guangdong that speak Teochew or Hakka instead (Meizhou, Shantou, Shanwei etc) but they are in the minority. Same in Guangxi as I know quite a few people from Guangxi. All speak Bai Hua. Then you add in that 10 million from HK where even Angmos, Africans and Indians speak Cantonese.
I am yet to see Africans and Indians speak Cantonese............
04-12-2022, 08:52 PM
(03-12-2022, 08:09 PM)LupCheong Wrote: Yup even in non-cantonese city like Shanghai or Beijing those variety show they will sometimes sing Cantonese song or speak in Cantonese but never heard them sing Hakka or teochew song.mC while promoting Mandarin use but did not limit dialect use especially in music
Many workers from other provinces working in GuangDong.
HK singers of older generation able to sign Cantonese and Mandarin along with
its TV dramas from 70s 80s 90s were board cast in mC are leaving lasting impact in entrainment sphere.
New trend is songs contains Mandarin mix with other dialects.
Cantonese is most common, there are still few others as well but rare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-LgHh7x27I
04-12-2022, 08:57 PM
04-12-2022, 08:58 PM
(03-12-2022, 08:09 PM)LupCheong Wrote: Yup even in non-cantonese city like Shanghai or Beijing those variety show they will sometimes sing Cantonese song or speak in Cantonese but never heard them sing Hakka or teochew song.
yeah loh
work in beijing for 3 months
mostly speak putong haw
learn that they all can speak fluent cantonese also
some are from the south cause it was dec close to chinese new year
they say they got to return back to the south for CNY
04-12-2022, 09:04 PM
(04-12-2022, 08:58 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: yeah lohI think you are right they mostly speak putong haw......
work in beijing for 3 months
mostly speak putong haw
learn that they all can speak fluent cantonese also
some are from the south cause it was dec close to chinese new year
they say they got to return back to the south for CNY
04-12-2022, 09:15 PM
(04-12-2022, 09:04 PM)debono Wrote: I think you are right they mostly speak putong haw......
they told me in beijing you better speak putong haw and the chinese is putong haw not haw yu
not able to do so will land you in detention camp
they told me a lot of secret police in beijing
white or black foreigner is ok
chinese foreigner must show passport
taiwan passport got to watch out for yourself
04-12-2022, 09:21 PM
05-12-2022, 12:00 AM
Hong Kong is likely in Guangdong.
05-12-2022, 12:37 AM
05-12-2022, 01:52 AM
05-12-2022, 06:39 AM
(04-12-2022, 08:26 PM)debono Wrote: I am yet to see Africans and Indians speak Cantonese............
You should go HK. I was at the airport check-in and spoke English to an Indian lady back in the 1990s in my first project there. She was really irritated and spoke to me in Cantonese. Then I remembered that second or more generations of Indians, angmos, africans in HK do not speak much else besides Cantonese. Nowadays I think they won't get irritated so easily as I believed the service is much better.
That incident reminded me that back in my secondary school when some students from HK came to visit my school for some ECA. I kept speaking to a Caucasian in English. Finally one of my schoolmate pulled me aside and told me that the Caucasian is irritated as he cannot speak much English. Not that he spoke some other Western language like German or French etc. He just speaks mainly Cantonese and a bit of Mandarin.
05-12-2022, 07:16 AM
Most folks in KL also speak Cantonese.
Wherever you go, no matter what the weather, always bring your own sunshine
05-12-2022, 08:02 AM
(03-12-2022, 07:49 PM)LupCheong Wrote: How come majority China people are speaking Cantonese after mandarin Chinese. I thought most China people is speak Hakka after mandarin Chinese.
in china, not many people speak hakka.
hakka is a minority. so few can speak hakka, in singapore, most hakka have to learn to speak other language like cantonese in order to survive.
05-12-2022, 09:35 AM
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