I already learned AI and Machine Learning online course but cannot get job..
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Not that I have any expectations that things will turn out different for.me. I did my online course coded all the CNN, RNN, LSTM,  A star search, Swarm Algorithm, etc from scratch to make sure I have full understanding. I even got 2 large language models running in on my home server....

I applied for 3 jobs and got rejected for all despite my efforts.teaching myself the technology with help.of online.courses which I paid more than $500 out of my own pocket.

It is very simple, to get a job you need a degree.  When they screen you and see you stop education at A levels, they won't even consider.

Despite assurance from govt that degree is not needed.it actually is.

Whether overseas or local you need to get one.

I just wrote to them in part for fun  not that I expect something different. I thought maybe can get interviewed and show what I have learnt on my own in last 2 years..but no chance.

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The way you like to post what Mr Loo, Kelvin , what financial expert., speaker can tell , you are those person can be easily scam.

I already say here before all these so call " Short courses are Useless " Is MORE for those current employed ones wish to switch to do different tasks Within the company , corporation.

IS NOT Tactically useful for people want to find another job outside.

UNLESS you go study part time dip, Degree.
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(30-06-2023, 01:23 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Not that I have any expectations that things will turn out different for.me. I did my online course coded all the CNN, RNN, LSTM,  A star search, Genenic Algorithm, etc from scratch to make sure I have full understanding. I even got 2 large language models running in on my home server....

I applied for 3 jobs and got rejected for all despite my efforts.teaching myself the technology with help.of online.course.

It is very simple, to get a job you need a degree.  When they screen you and see you stop education at A levels, they won't even consider.

Despite assurance from govt that degree is not needed.it actually is.

Whether overseas or local you need to get one.

I just wrote to them in part for fun  not that I expect something different. I thought maybe can get interviewed and show what I have learnt on my own in last 2 years..but no chance.


FT CECA learned AI is atas

Local learn AI is not talented

Continue to Vote PAP
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#4

You are too hardworking, PAP gov only want jiakliaobees...

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#5

Certification is important lah!

You can't claim that you have learn on line everything an accountant needs to learn and apply to work as an account or an auditor mah!
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#6

You must carry the right pap balls, otherwise you end up like Soh, even though he's the best.

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#7

Local companies don't need AI lah. What can AI do for them?

Those with phd and specialise in AI would rather stay with the universities to do their AI projects, write papers for publications, get promotion and recognition.

As for the AI you learned from online, the only way to make good use of it is to come up with some useful applications
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(30-06-2023, 01:49 PM)WhatDoYouThink! Wrote:  Local companies don't need AI lah. What can AI do for them?

Those with phd and specialise in AI would rather stay with the universities to do their AI projects, write papers for publications, get promotion and recognition.

As for the AI you learned from online, the only way to make good use of it is to come up with some useful applications

The future is , Big tech companies ONLY WANT Highly skill programmers , developers , coders.
They only just need few top engineers to oversee the AI doing the work.
AI still need human to program, etc.

AI self learn actually is possible but for one become really like Human ownself what you see in Hollywood Sci Tech movie is impossible during current to future timeline. If you claim after 100 years or so " maybe ". Than Politicians will debate again etc claim Humanity at risk.
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(30-06-2023, 01:31 PM)grotesqueness Wrote:  FT CECA learned AI is atas

Local learn AI is not talented

Continue to Vote PAP

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(30-06-2023, 01:31 PM)[[ForeverAlone]] Wrote:  The way you like to post what Mr Loo, Kelvin , what financial expert., speaker can tell , you are those person can be easily scam.

I already say here before all these so call " Short courses are Useless " Is MORE for those current employed ones wish to switch to do different tasks Within the company , corporation.

IS NOT Tactically useful for people want to find another job outside.

UNLESS you go study part time dip, Degree.


Those courses provided by Skills Future is not recognised. It is just for past time. 

How many PMETs use those to get a Career Change?
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#11

The certs are useful but not enough. In analytics field, you need experience. Best way to get experience is to do some freelance gigs to get projects under your belt.
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(30-06-2023, 02:40 PM)Wy:Nox Wrote:  Those courses provided by Skills Future is not recognised. It is just for past time. 

How many PMETs use those to get a Career Change?

if you are civil servant , you will get zzz attend these short courses due to KPI purpose.
But one thing good for them, some trainer let them off early whereby you can go home straight early back home.

some civil servant happy attend because no need go office.
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(30-06-2023, 01:23 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Not that I have any expectations that things will turn out different for.me. I did my online course coded all the CNN, RNN, LSTM,  A star search, Genenic Algorithm, etc from scratch to make sure I have full understanding. I even got 2 large language models running in on my home server....

I applied for 3 jobs and got rejected for all despite my efforts.teaching myself the technology with help.of online.courses which I paid more than $500 out of my own pocket.

It is very simple, to get a job you need a degree.  When they screen you and see you stop education at A levels, they won't even consider.

Despite assurance from govt that degree is not needed.it actually is.

Whether overseas or local you need to get one.

I just wrote to them in part for fun  not that I expect something different. I thought maybe can get interviewed and show what I have learnt on my own in last 2 years..but no chance.
At your age, companies are not interested what you just learned from an online course. They want people of your age group with work experience and track record of your work history. You can be considered as passover already and no longer employable. The only way out for you to become big time is to start your own AI company with what you learn and sell you products.    Rolleyes

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(30-06-2023, 01:23 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Not that I have any expectations that things will turn out different for.me. I did my online course coded all the CNN, RNN, LSTM,  A star search, Genenic Algorithm, etc from scratch to make sure I have full understanding. I even got 2 large language models running in on my home server....

I applied for 3 jobs and got rejected for all despite my efforts.teaching myself the technology with help.of online.courses which I paid more than $500 out of my own pocket.

It is very simple, to get a job you need a degree.  When they screen you and see you stop education at A levels, they won't even consider.

Despite assurance from govt that degree is not needed.it actually is.

Whether overseas or local you need to get one.

I just wrote to them in part for fun  not that I expect something different. I thought maybe can get interviewed and show what I have learnt on my own in last 2 years..but no chance.

what are the job titles of the jobs that you applied ?
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(30-06-2023, 01:23 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Not that I have any expectations that things will turn out different for.me. I did my online course coded all the CNN, RNN, LSTM,  A star search, Genenic Algorithm, etc from scratch to make sure I have full understanding.....

Errr....WTF is "Genenic Algorithm" ?

Pls don't tell me you can't even spell a category of AI correctly and claim to have "full understanding"..

Rolleyes

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#16

These could be the problems you faced:

1. Mismatch of job spec vs skills/experiences: was AI a requirement for those jobs you applied for?

2. Age/seniority: at yr age, they'd expect you to do pioneering work in AI, not just coding which can be done by young/fresh graduates/ceca

3. Anybody can take online courses and pass mcq with flying colors, but how to tell they can perform?
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(30-06-2023, 01:23 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Not that I have any expectations that things will turn out different for.me. I did my online course coded all the CNN, RNN, LSTM,  A star search, Swarm Algorithm, etc from scratch to make sure I have full understanding. I even got 2 large language models running in on my home server....

I applied for 3 jobs and got rejected for all despite my efforts.teaching myself the technology with help.of online.courses which I paid more than $500 out of my own pocket.

It is very simple, to get a job you need a degree.  When they screen you and see you stop education at A levels, they won't even consider.

Despite assurance from govt that degree is not needed.it actually is.

Whether overseas or local you need to get one.

I just wrote to them in part for fun  not that I expect something different. I thought maybe can get interviewed and show what I have learnt on my own in last 2 years..but no chance.

(30-06-2023, 03:58 PM)Manthink Wrote:  Errr....WTF is "Genenic Algorithm" ?

Pls don't tell me you can't even spell a category of AI correctly and claim to have "full understanding"..

Rolleyes

"Genenic algorithm" now changed to swarm algorithm
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(30-06-2023, 04:22 PM)WhatDoYouThink! Wrote:  "Genenic algorithm" now changed to swarm algorithm

As usual, TS tends to be fidgety when kenna questioned in about his "full understanding" of a topic...

I guess he just wasted his time and effort believing job openings are there simply by having a cert from a "$500 online course"...

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#19

Yalo... how can a person claimed to hv "full understanding" of a topic could hv it spelt wrongly, and minutes later switched to another unrelated topic?

Both GA and SA are optimisation techniques but are very different things
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(30-06-2023, 01:49 PM)WhatDoYouThink! Wrote:  Local companies don't need AI lah. What can AI do for them?

Those with phd and specialise in AI would rather stay with the universities to do their AI projects, write papers for publications, get promotion and recognition.

As for the AI you learned from online, the only way to make good use of it is to come up with some useful applications

Current AI are more automation tool. There is no brain in those apps.


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#21

Security guard better.
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(30-06-2023, 01:23 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Not that I have any expectations that things will turn out different for.me. I did my online course coded all the CNN, RNN, LSTM,  A star search, Swarm Algorithm, etc from scratch to make sure I have full understanding. I even got 2 large language models running in on my home server....

I applied for 3 jobs and got rejected for all despite my efforts.teaching myself the technology with help.of online.courses which I paid more than $500 out of my own pocket.

It is very simple, to get a job you need a degree.  When they screen you and see you stop education at A levels, they won't even consider.

Despite assurance from govt that degree is not needed.it actually is.

Whether overseas or local you need to get one.

I just wrote to them in part for fun  not that I expect something different. I thought maybe can get interviewed and show what I have learnt on my own in last 2 years..but no chance.

you can try to apply for the below train and attach program to gain experience.
closing date is 23rd July 2023.

www.ibf.org.sg/home/for-individuals/skills-and-jobs-development/career-conversion/tfip
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(30-06-2023, 03:06 PM)Huliwang Wrote:  At your age, companies are not interested what you just learned from an online course. They want people of your age group with work experience and track record of your work history. You can be considered as passover already and no longer employable. The only way out for you to become big time is to start your own AI company with what you learn and sell you products.    Rolleyes

Indeed. After age of 40 or 45, there's no point doing technical work unless you're in the research institutes or universities. Companies can find plenty of young chaps to do those kind of work, unless the work you're doing is super top tier.

The only employer will be the SMEs, but then they don't really need AI guys. MNCs will straightaway strike you off during resume review.
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#24

Many companies just pay $1600 to intern students to do the job. Plenty students available
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#25

TS you forgot to bring Vaseline Big Grin

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(30-06-2023, 01:23 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Not that I have any expectations that things will turn out different for.me. I did my online course coded all the CNN, RNN, LSTM,  A star search, Swarm Algorithm, etc from scratch to make sure I have full understanding. I even got 2 large language models running in on my home server....

I applied for 3 jobs and got rejected for all despite my efforts.teaching myself the technology with help.of online.courses which I paid more than $500 out of my own pocket.

It is very simple, to get a job you need a degree.  When they screen you and see you stop education at A levels, they won't even consider.

Despite assurance from govt that degree is not needed.it actually is.

Whether overseas or local you need to get one.

I just wrote to them in part for fun  not that I expect something different. I thought maybe can get interviewed and show what I have learnt on my own in last 2 years..but no chance.

People paid thousands and spent years to learn in IHLs. If u just spent $500 to learn on your own and claim that u had mastered AI then all those IHL can close down liao. U really think too highly of yourself.  Laughing
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(01-07-2023, 07:57 AM)winbig Wrote:  People paid thousands and spent years to learn in IHLs. If u just spent $500 to learn on your own and claim that u had mastered AI then all those IHL can close down liao. U really think too highly of yourself.  Laughing

Why you so direct?  Laughing

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#28

If the job is a good job, the interviewer will not be a regular joe either, most likely are foreigners
In general, Singapore manager tend to be rigid in thinking
There's difference when you talk to local and foreign manager, i m not talking about indian
Indian managers for sure hire indian only, some will go so far to make sure interviewee is indian vegetarian because he's vegetarian
If they hire local suddenly, it means hr or their diversity policy forced them to do diversity hire
But diversity hire in general will not stay long, because you be an odd one among indian speakers
In some banks, indian are allow to speak own language in office and they are majority in tech division, there's no policy around this, so they use own language to take advantage
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(01-07-2023, 07:59 AM)p1acebo Wrote:  Why you so direct?  Laughing

Then how to say indirectly?  Laughing
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#30

Maybe standard is not sufficent,,, else can start own business also. Welcome to the real world
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