Is Lehman crisis coming to China in 2022....
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Recent report of bank runs. Collapsed property developers. Mortgage debt defaults by home buyers. China's real estate sector is even bigger and more leverage than US in 2008.

All these spells potential trouble.

My view of the 2008 crisis is that it was and avoidable crisis so long as leaders do not get stupid. At a critical moment of the crisis, the US govt was alerted to the problem and potential contagion risk of Lehman brothers collapse. The politicians refuse to bailout Lehman resulting in the financial crisis. 

The bursting of the Japanese  Real estate bubble did not result in a crisis. 

The Chinese Real estate sector is 20-30% of the economy so a long term slump means that China will see slow growth jn the coming decade.

The US and Japanese bubble occurred when they are high income developed countries. China today per capita is only same as Malaysia.

Like the Japanese economy China is dependent on exports and this will remain so for a long time.

China with left leaning anti business policies will see growth tapering in coming years.

I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
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Sgbutt is also listening to rumours and propagating rumours!  Angry
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China will have Crisis very soon....to wipe out their greed
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(18-07-2022, 08:55 AM)Sharexchange Wrote:  China will have Crisis very soon....to wipe out their greed

Thank you for you cok view!  Thumbsup Rotfl
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#5

China help bailed out the 2008 crisis.
BBC says one
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(18-07-2022, 08:55 AM)Sharexchange Wrote:  China will have Crisis very soon....to wipe out their greed

Your security guard company can help?


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(18-07-2022, 08:47 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Recent report of bank runs. Collapsed property developers. Mortgage debt defaults by home buyers. China's real estate sector is even bigger and more leverage than US in 2008.

All these spells potential trouble.

My view of the 2008 crisis is that it was and avoidable crisis so long as leaders do not get stupid. At a critical moment of the crisis, the US govt was alerted to the problem and potential contagion risk of Lehman brothers collapse. The politicians refuse to bailout Lehman resulting in the financial crisis. 

The bursting of the Japanese  Real estate bubble did not result in a crisis. 

The Chinese Real estate sector is 20-30% of the economy so a long term slump means that China will see slow growth jn the coming decade.

The US and Japanese bubble occurred when they are high income developed countries. China today per capita is only same as Malaysia.

Like the Japanese economy China is dependent on exports and this will remain so for a long time.

China with left leaning anti business policies will see growth tapering in coming years.

so how??? are u selling all yr china stock, like BYD and tencent( do u have this one)
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(18-07-2022, 08:47 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Recent report of bank runs. Collapsed property developers. Mortgage debt defaults by home buyers. China's real estate sector is even bigger and more leverage than US in 2008.

All these spells potential trouble.

My view of the 2008 crisis is that it was and avoidable crisis so long as leaders do not get stupid. At a critical moment of the crisis, the US govt was alerted to the problem and potential contagion risk of Lehman brothers collapse. The politicians refuse to bailout Lehman resulting in the financial crisis. 

The bursting of the Japanese  Real estate bubble did not result in a crisis. 

The Chinese Real estate sector is 20-30% of the economy so a long term slump means that China will see slow growth jn the coming decade.

The US and Japanese bubble occurred when they are high income developed countries. China today per capita is only same as Malaysia.

Like the Japanese economy China is dependent on exports and this will remain so for a long time.

China with left leaning anti business policies will see growth tapering in coming years.

on hindsight, china wont dies so fast, trhey got 3T usd.. so rich and solid, just come out 1T all thing solve.
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(18-07-2022, 09:20 AM)Alam Wrote:  


Mr Loo your idol says in his Q&A in this video, the crisis you mentioned in China will be contained within China. Not a crisis to be concerned with.
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(18-07-2022, 08:47 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Recent report of bank runs. Collapsed property developers. Mortgage debt defaults by home buyers. China's real estate sector is even bigger and more leverage than US in 2008.

All these spells potential trouble.

My view of the 2008 crisis is that it was and avoidable crisis so long as leaders do not get stupid. At a critical moment of the crisis, the US govt was alerted to the problem and potential contagion risk of Lehman brothers collapse. The politicians refuse to bailout Lehman resulting in the financial crisis. 

The bursting of the Japanese  Real estate bubble did not result in a crisis. 

The Chinese Real estate sector is 20-30% of the economy so a long term slump means that China will see slow growth jn the coming decade.

The US and Japanese bubble occurred when they are high income developed countries. China today per capita is only same as Malaysia.

Like the Japanese economy China is dependent on exports and this will remain so for a long time.

China with left leaning anti business policies will see growth tapering in coming years.

It is financial trouble of a similar kind but different in nature. They all defaulted or try to default on their housing mortgage payment but in the US, the house has been completed and is foreclosed for auction but in China, the apartments are not even completed and not capable of resale, just worth the brick and mortar.

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(18-07-2022, 08:52 AM)cityhantam Wrote:  Sgbutt is also listening to rumours and propagating rumours!  Angry

Now the competition is who will collapse first!

As I had already mentioned in the past before, 
there are 3 big bubbles in the world. 

Japan Bond Bubble,
US stock Bubble, 
China property bubble.

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
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(18-07-2022, 09:21 AM)victortan Wrote:  on hindsight, china wont dies so fast, trhey got 3T usd.. so rich and solid, just come out 1T all thing solve.

Don't think the 3T is even enough to pay the external debt which today could have risen to more than 3T


source: tradingeconomics.com

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#14

The more media report on China property doom in China, the more the China govt will have more awareness and take further action to drag the bubble from bursting too quickly.
The first 1 to collapse will be the loser.

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
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(18-07-2022, 09:43 AM)revealer Wrote:  Don't think the 3T is even enough to pay the external debt which today could have risen to more than 3T


source: tradingeconomics.com

Then there is this 182% of GDP domestic credits that the Chinese owed the banks.  This worked out to about 26 Trillion based on 14.7 Trillion GDP;  if the interest is 5% annually,  the interest payment alone is 1.3 Trillion per year.  How to pay?  BTW,  China took almost 30 years to accumulate 3.0 Trillion of foreign reserves.

https://skyjuiceiswater.blogspot.com/202...oblem.html

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The innocent China Chinese do not have these World bank figures becos they r cut off. Think CCP is trying to find all means to get ends.


Omi.. Thank you for bumping up the message.
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(18-07-2022, 09:50 AM)revealer Wrote:  Then there is this 182% of GDP domestic credits that the Chinese owed the banks.  This worked out to about 26 Trillion based on 14.7 Trillion GDP;  if the interest is 5% annually,  the interest payment alone is 1.3 Trillion per year.  How to pay?  BTW,  China took almost 30 years to accumulate 3.0 Trillion of foreign reserves.

https://skyjuiceiswater.blogspot.com/202...oblem.html

China debt problem is big and heavy.

They have 2 things in their favor....the debt is in Yuan and they have currency controls.

I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
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#18

To help you understand a better perspective

And no need make a mountain out of a mole hill.  

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(18-07-2022, 10:05 AM)teaserteam Wrote:  The innocent China Chinese do not have these World bank figures becos they r cut off. Think CCP is trying to find all means to get ends.

OMG!

So poor thing ah?  Thinking
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#20

This douyin lady thinks India will be the next Sri Lanka...

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#21

china now everywhere no money, individual to company to banks to country, all linked.
If all the depositors withdraw money from banks, then many banks bankrupt immediately. Once many people withdraw, all will follow!
china people already no trust in their banking system now, same to property, who will still buy property in china today! ton for lelong!

china debt burst, china debt is gigantic, everywhere is debt, from property to business to banks, all no money, all has all the money gone? print more?
these are all domino & chain effect, all linked, 1 gone all gone!
what happen to all the individual money & asset anyway, no personal asset in communism, all belong to country & party!





深圳融資項目出事,萬億級信託爆雷,投資者怒火沖天,對未來失去希望,我的錢還能回來嗎


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#22

Bankrupt loser kokee

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(18-07-2022, 10:18 AM)sgxin Wrote:  This douyin lady thinks India will be the next Sri Lanka...

https://www.douyin.com/video/7120897198266567969

India is poor and mess but the central bank leadership is superb.

In 2016 they bite the bullet and conducted demonetisation...

They keep everything in check hence we see very few destabilising bubbles there.

India stocks have and will be best performing in the world.

I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
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(18-07-2022, 10:36 AM)kokee Wrote:  china now everywhere no money, individual to company to banks to country, all linked.
If all the depositors withdraw money from banks, then many banks bankrupt immediately. Once many people withdraw, all will follow!
china people already no trust in their banking system now, same to property, who will still buy property in china today! ton for lelong!

china debt burst, china debt is gigantic, everywhere is debt, from property to business to banks, all no money, all has all the money gone? print more?
these are all domino & chain effect, all linked, 1 gone all gone!
what happen to all the individual money & asset anyway, no personal asset in communism, all belong to country & party!





深圳融資項目出事,萬億級信託爆雷,投資者怒火沖天,對未來失去希望,我的錢還能回來嗎



Bankrupt loser kokee 

Who let the slave slave kokee and stooge’s out woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof 


 
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