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(03-07-2023, 04:17 PM)kc172021 Wrote: 3 words for the whole saga:::: HARD TO BELIEVE
The minister of law was trying to explain the code of conduct on conflict of interest was rather weak and had somewhat alluded with a wrong example.
And now SM Teo try to explain that the ministers had to fork out their own pocket monies to make right of the property for liveable habitat…the effort for them to hold a Parliament to discuss or debate about such cases simply shows that the ruling party has failed to do what is right. But merely trying to put forth their “explanations” that does not go well with the public monies going into these GCB rental.
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Exactly , why is talking about the free 200000sqft SLA land gave to the VVIP tenant an attack on his "integrity "?
Nonsense lah!
Land is free in land scarce singapore ah?
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I noted amorous shamelessdog defined "integrity" as " financial integrity" not " moral integrity"!
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What kind of parliament is this?
SM Teo answers what he wants and brushes away what he does not want to answer
Shamelessdog just stand up and speak even when the speaker was going to close?!
and opposition cannot ask questions in full?
this is a circus lah. Obviously guilty of failing both "moral integrity" and abuse of power/ conflict of interest in any sense
Why were the phones Not Seized?!?!?
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This parliamentary seating show the weakness of the leadership. Had this been with LKY’s leadership we would not see such debates despite this government tried to show their integrity as well as their honesty.
It basically shows all the evidences on markets or how the property were rented by the office holders. The public images as MP Leong has put acrossed were valid. Public funds should not funded these public office holders.
And with the Law Minister just added that their phone messages were automatically deleted just open more questioning. Also we can see that the Law Minister keep adding his statement on questions from the parliamentary members.
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Teo SM did not answer the questions on conflict of interests and code of conduct, he just beating around the bush.
The reason why the same questions keep popping up.
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(03-07-2023, 01:54 PM)K88 shu shu Wrote: look like the 2 abnn taking advantage of a weak PM.
in countries like HK, TW, Japan or Korea, the ministers will call for a press conference and bow and resign because morality involved.
How dare you say the PM is weak!
I put it to you that he is not weak, but of the same inclination
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even the fcuking speaker is giving shamelessdog more time ?
How is that no conflict of interest and abuse of power?
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(03-07-2023, 04:55 PM)Alice Alicia Wrote: Teo SM did not answer the questions on conflict of interests and code of conduct, he just beating around the bush.
The reason why the same questions keep popping up.
He never answered any question
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(03-07-2023, 04:53 PM)kangtangman Wrote: This parliamentary seating show the weakness of the leadership. Had this been with LKY’s leadership we would not see such debates despite this government tried to show their integrity as well as their honesty.
It basically shows all the evidences on markets or how the property were rented by the office holders. The public images as MP Leong has put a crossed were valid. Public funds should not funded these public office holders.
And with the Law Minister just added that their phone messages were automatically deleted just open more questioning. Also we can see that the Law Minister keep adding his statement on questions from the parliamentary members.
If it was LKY 's time. The minister that had actual, percieved conflict of interest would have committed suicide
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We can see that Murali questions were script that allow Law Minister was able to prepare the reply as he has read out from the printed script now.
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(03-07-2023, 04:55 PM)Alice Alicia Wrote: Teo SM did not answer the questions on conflict of interests and code of conduct, he just beating around the bush.
The reason why the same questions keep popping up.
He did answer but not satisfactorily. He said no actual or potential conflict of interest due to recusal. So it follows that there is no perceived conflict of interest.
This is not true. Recusal but still remains as minister in charge. His staff dare to offend him?
He says if there is perceived conflict of interest in this, then the PM cant do anything cos he controls all. Again nonsense. PM dont control private sector, he can rent all he wants.
Straw man argument.
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now the ah neh is really talking cock
doesn't explain at all why he needs to be greedy renting a 300,000 sqft property at a fraction of the market rate
while renting out his own prime properties at prime rate
if shamelessdog respect LKY so much he should commit sucide
This is not about shamelessdog being able to rent a BnW GCB at BELOW MARKET RATE. It is about WHY IS HE NOT PAYING MARKET RATE to our national coffers
eg 1.2M per month instead of 65K pm
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(03-07-2023, 05:05 PM)Truebluesg Wrote: now the ah neh is really talking cock
doesn't explain at all why he needs to be greedy renting a 300,000 sqft property at a fraction of the market rate
while renting out his own prime properties at prime rate
He said he made a deficit after taxes from renting out his gcb and rent no. 26. Really??
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(03-07-2023, 05:03 PM)Truebluesg Wrote: If it was LKY 's time. The minister that had actual, percieved conflict of interest would have committed suicide
The perceived conflict of interest which you reference the suicide minister was with evidence. And led the minister to take the undesirable steps.
And back then it was not a perceived conflict of interest, it was before the perceptions were even taken place.
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The more shamelessdog talks, the more I feel like vomitting
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No one in parliament mentioned why the ridiculously low rental price of 11 cents per square foot is justifiable.
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(03-07-2023, 04:13 PM)RichDad Wrote: Big nose Teo evading questions from oppies.
How can it be not perceived conflict of interest for Shan? Just because he recused himself does not mean he is not in a position to influence the transaction indirectly. By virtue of his position, it is already a perceived conflict of interest.
Ah Teo is hopeless
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Say before no preferenial treatment but can be influenced to get favour
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(03-07-2023, 05:11 PM)aiptasia Wrote: No one in parliament mentioned why the ridiculously low rental price of 11 cents per square foot is justifiable.
Exactly. Terrible. Other owners , tenants in Ridout road must feel like a donkey right about now.
They are also successful.
But they have to pay 100X more rental!
Than the greedy politician
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Even the claps were pathetic.
The oppo and singaporeans must have a really strong stomach to not vomit in parliament
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what a wayang
now the PM comes out to speak
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(03-07-2023, 05:37 PM)Truebluesg Wrote: what a wayang
now the PM comes out to speak
throw LKY face, he as PM. WEAK PM
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lol the house scare of Leong ask too much
tell him one shot bring out all the question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn7sGrmdpTw
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PM lee still can joke claim " Oh I thought you against minister stay in GCB but is not "
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shamelessdog guilty conscious about 26.5k pm rent and how he arrives at it.
Nobody ask
he comes out and "clarifies"!
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(03-07-2023, 04:53 PM)kangtangman Wrote: This parliamentary seating show the weakness of the leadership. Had this been with LKY’s leadership we would not see such debates despite this government tried to show their integrity as well as their honesty.
It basically shows all the evidences on markets or how the property were rented by the office holders. The public images as MP Leong has put acrossed were valid. Public funds should not funded these public office holders.
And with the Law Minister just added that their phone messages were automatically deleted just open more questioning. Also we can see that the Law Minister keep adding his statement on questions from the parliamentary members.
You already know the end of the story liao lah!
So why still listen and watch leh?
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If LKY still around, such issue won’t happen.
王和民是站在同一阵线。
做鬼的永远都是是官lah.
不懂易经真糟糕!
“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
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(03-07-2023, 06:17 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: You already know the end of the story liao lah! So why still listen and watch leh?
watch to enjoy how " many BS this PAP can say mah "
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(03-07-2023, 06:16 PM)kc172021 Wrote: DOnt understand SLA. WHy rent oout the vast land to sham for a miserable $2000 per month. Just sub divide the land into 15000 ft2 GCB land size and do a land sale for 99 yrs, sure fetch 1000 x times more. Is SLA not waste the conuntry resources???
And we are watching these ministers wasting parliament time to justify SLA acts?? really a bunch of jokers wayanging a world class act
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(03-07-2023, 06:17 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: You already know the end of the story liao lah! So why still listen and watch leh?
We have to hear it from the horses mouth or experienced on my own than to make allegations on their clarifications. Unlike many would make unfound allegations just like yourselves would have a made your comments based on perceptions.
Does that answer your question?