Madeleine Albright was NOT a force for goodness, grace and decency
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Ahmed Twaij
25 Mar 2022


Often, after the demise of political figures, their troubling histories are whitewashed in the name of respecting their memories and the feelings of their families. The passing of former United States Secretary of State Madeleine Albright on Wednesday has been no exception.

Western media responded to the news of her death with a plethora of obituaries eulogising her achievements.

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For me as an Iraqi, however, the memory of Albright will forever be tainted by the stringent sanctions she helped place on my country at a time when it was already devastated by years of war. Millions of innocent Iraqis suffered terribly and hundreds of thousands died because of the sanctions which, in the end, achieved almost none of Washington’s policy objectives. As we remember Albright’s life and achievements, we must also remember those innocent Iraqi lives lost because of her policy decisions.

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in 1996 ...... veteran journalist Lesley Stahl questioned Albright – then the US ambassador to the United Nations – on the catastrophic effect the rigorous US sanctions imposed after Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait had on the Iraqi population.

“We have heard that half a million [Iraqi] children have died. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima,” asked Stahl, “And, you know, is the price worth it?”

“I think that is a very hard choice,” Albright answered, “but the price, we think, the price is worth it.”

With this response, Albright showed that she sees innocent Iraqi children as nothing more than disposable fodder in a conflict between the US administration and the Iraqi leadership.

She demonstrated, with no room left for any doubt, that she had no humanity – that she cannot and shall never be described as “a force for goodness, grace, and decency”.

I remember sanctions era Iraq very well. It was almost impossible to maintain contact with family members and friends in the country, as telephone services remained very limited. When I visited Iraq, to my shock I saw even the most basic products – like milk – could not be found in local markets. The people were hungry and hopeless.

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the US imposed sanctions on Iraq to punish Saddam Hussein’s regime, but it was innocent civilians, not the regime officials who suffered.

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By 2003, it is estimated that nearly 1.5 million Iraqis, primarily children, had died as a direct consequence of sanctions.

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The sanctions, implemented in August 1990 by the UN Security Council Resolution 661, included a total financial and trade embargo. Not only was Iraq barred from exporting oil (its main income source) on the world market for several years, but it was also prevented from importing products from abroad.

This ban included healthcare equipment and medications, which translated into immeasurable suffering for common Iraqis, but placed no immediate pressure on Hussein’s regime.

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the death rate of children below five crossed 4,000 a month due to the lack of food and basic medications caused by the sanctions – that is up to 200 babies and toddlers dying avoidable deaths a day.

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To make matters worse, 13 years after the sanctions were first implemented to pressure the Iraqi regime, the US opted to invade the oil-rich country anyway under the pretence that Hussein managed to amass weapons of mass destruction despite the embargo. The years of suffering were for nothing – the sanctions had achieved nothing other than devastating millions of Iraqis who had no say over the actions of those ruling over them.

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Today, with sanctions imposed on Venezuela still causing thousands of deaths among the country’s poorest, and demands for more stringent sanctions on Russia getting louder, we cannot afford to whitewash Albright’s mistakes.


Much much better to read full opinion at: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/...really-was
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(28-03-2022, 04:05 PM)Levin Wrote:  Ahmed Twaij
25 Mar 2022


Often, after the demise of political figures, their troubling histories are whitewashed in the name of respecting their memories and the feelings of their families. The passing of former United States Secretary of State Madeleine Albright on Wednesday has been no exception.

Western media responded to the news of her death with a plethora of obituaries eulogising her achievements.

......

For me as an Iraqi, however, the memory of Albright will forever be tainted by the stringent sanctions she helped place on my country at a time when it was already devastated by years of war. Millions of innocent Iraqis suffered terribly and hundreds of thousands died because of the sanctions which, in the end, achieved almost none of Washington’s policy objectives. As we remember Albright’s life and achievements, we must also remember those innocent Iraqi lives lost because of her policy decisions.

......

in 1996 ...... veteran journalist Lesley Stahl questioned Albright – then the US ambassador to the United Nations – on the catastrophic effect the rigorous US sanctions imposed after Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait had on the Iraqi population.

“We have heard that half a million [Iraqi] children have died. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima,” asked Stahl, “And, you know, is the price worth it?”

“I think that is a very hard choice,” Albright answered, “but the price, we think, the price is worth it.”

With this response, Albright showed that she sees innocent Iraqi children as nothing more than disposable fodder in a conflict between the US administration and the Iraqi leadership.

She demonstrated, with no room left for any doubt, that she had no humanity – that she cannot and shall never be described as “a force for goodness, grace, and decency”.

I remember sanctions era Iraq very well. It was almost impossible to maintain contact with family members and friends in the country, as telephone services remained very limited. When I visited Iraq, to my shock I saw even the most basic products – like milk – could not be found in local markets. The people were hungry and hopeless.

......

the US imposed sanctions on Iraq to punish Saddam Hussein’s regime, but it was innocent civilians, not the regime officials who suffered.

......

By 2003, it is estimated that nearly 1.5 million Iraqis, primarily children, had died as a direct consequence of sanctions.

......

The sanctions, implemented in August 1990 by the UN Security Council Resolution 661, included a total financial and trade embargo. Not only was Iraq barred from exporting oil (its main income source) on the world market for several years, but it was also prevented from importing products from abroad.

This ban included healthcare equipment and medications, which translated into immeasurable suffering for common Iraqis, but placed no immediate pressure on Hussein’s regime.

......

the death rate of children below five crossed 4,000 a month due to the lack of food and basic medications caused by the sanctions – that is up to 200 babies and toddlers dying avoidable deaths a day.

......

To make matters worse, 13 years after the sanctions were first implemented to pressure the Iraqi regime, the US opted to invade the oil-rich country anyway under the pretence that Hussein managed to amass weapons of mass destruction despite the embargo. The years of suffering were for nothing – the sanctions had achieved nothing other than devastating millions of Iraqis who had no say over the actions of those ruling over them.

......

Today, with sanctions imposed on Venezuela still causing thousands of deaths among the country’s poorest, and demands for more stringent sanctions on Russia getting louder, we cannot afford to whitewash Albright’s mistakes.


Much much better to read full opinion at: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/...really-was

Iraqi can only blame themselves that they did not overthrow sadam Hussein.
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(28-03-2022, 05:09 PM)lionkingch55 Wrote:  Iraqi can only blame themselves that they did not overthrow sadam Hussein.

They must thank you for licking and sucking Assmericans who killed their fellow Iraqis and destroy their homes and the whole nation!  Angry
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(28-03-2022, 04:05 PM)Levin Wrote:  Ahmed Twaij
25 Mar 2022


Often, after the demise of political figures, their troubling histories are whitewashed in the name of respecting their memories and the feelings of their families. The passing of former United States Secretary of State Madeleine Albright on Wednesday has been no exception.

Western media responded to the news of her death with a plethora of obituaries eulogising her achievements.

......

For me as an Iraqi, however, the memory of Albright will forever be tainted by the stringent sanctions she helped place on my country at a time when it was already devastated by years of war. Millions of innocent Iraqis suffered terribly and hundreds of thousands died because of the sanctions which, in the end, achieved almost none of Washington’s policy objectives. As we remember Albright’s life and achievements, we must also remember those innocent Iraqi lives lost because of her policy decisions.

......

in 1996 ...... veteran journalist Lesley Stahl questioned Albright – then the US ambassador to the United Nations – on the catastrophic effect the rigorous US sanctions imposed after Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait had on the Iraqi population.

“We have heard that half a million [Iraqi] children have died. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima,” asked Stahl, “And, you know, is the price worth it?”

“I think that is a very hard choice,” Albright answered, “but the price, we think, the price is worth it.”

With this response, Albright showed that she sees innocent Iraqi children as nothing more than disposable fodder in a conflict between the US administration and the Iraqi leadership.

She demonstrated, with no room left for any doubt, that she had no humanity – that she cannot and shall never be described as “a force for goodness, grace, and decency”.

I remember sanctions era Iraq very well. It was almost impossible to maintain contact with family members and friends in the country, as telephone services remained very limited. When I visited Iraq, to my shock I saw even the most basic products – like milk – could not be found in local markets. The people were hungry and hopeless.

......

the US imposed sanctions on Iraq to punish Saddam Hussein’s regime, but it was innocent civilians, not the regime officials who suffered.

......

By 2003, it is estimated that nearly 1.5 million Iraqis, primarily children, had died as a direct consequence of sanctions.

......

The sanctions, implemented in August 1990 by the UN Security Council Resolution 661, included a total financial and trade embargo. Not only was Iraq barred from exporting oil (its main income source) on the world market for several years, but it was also prevented from importing products from abroad.

This ban included healthcare equipment and medications, which translated into immeasurable suffering for common Iraqis, but placed no immediate pressure on Hussein’s regime.

......

the death rate of children below five crossed 4,000 a month due to the lack of food and basic medications caused by the sanctions – that is up to 200 babies and toddlers dying avoidable deaths a day.

......

To make matters worse, 13 years after the sanctions were first implemented to pressure the Iraqi regime, the US opted to invade the oil-rich country anyway under the pretence that Hussein managed to amass weapons of mass destruction despite the embargo. The years of suffering were for nothing – the sanctions had achieved nothing other than devastating millions of Iraqis who had no say over the actions of those ruling over them.

......

Today, with sanctions imposed on Venezuela still causing thousands of deaths among the country’s poorest, and demands for more stringent sanctions on Russia getting louder, we cannot afford to whitewash Albright’s mistakes.


Much much better to read full opinion at: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/...really-was

All the above happened because Iraq invaded Kuwait.
Shouldn't Saddam be blamed for taking his country downhill?

I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
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(28-03-2022, 06:26 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  All the above happened because Iraq invaded Kuwait.
Shouldn't Saddam be blamed for taking his country downhill?

That was the reason for the 1st Gulf War.

What is the reason for 2nd Gulf War? FAKE WMD????  Angry

How about 78 days of bombing of Yugoslavia?  Angry
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(28-03-2022, 06:32 PM)cityhantam Wrote:  That was the reason for the 1st Gulf War.

What is the reason for 2nd Gulf War? FAKE WMD????  Angry

How about 78 days of bombing of Yugoslavia?  Angry
Second war was Rice Condolisa I think..... Big Grin

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(28-03-2022, 06:34 PM)Huliwang Wrote:  Second war was Rice Condolisa I think..... Big Grin

78 days of bombing of Yugoslavia and Chinese embassy was during Madeleine Albright's time.

2nd Gulf War was during Colin  Powell's time.  Big Grin
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Marie Jana Korbel @ Madeline Albright will be remembered for this

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(28-03-2022, 06:26 PM)sgbuffett Wrote:  All the above happened because Iraq invaded Kuwait.
Shouldn't Saddam be blamed for taking his country downhill?

No. The first Gulf War happened in 1991 in response to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. Albright was still at Georgetown University at that time. In 1996, while she was US ambassador to UN, she made the controversial remark that half a million Iraqi children dying is worth it on TV. I found out just a while ago that she had apologised for that remark in 2020 in another interview. Too late I guess. And she still maintained that sanctions while causing hardships are the best means.

She is quite a hawk based on what I have read so far as she is very supportive of military action, not just in Middle East but also in Europe.
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(28-03-2022, 06:34 PM)Huliwang Wrote:  Second war was Rice Condolisa I think..... Big Grin

Colin Powell. Rice came after.
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For a more detailed description of when and why the sanctions were applied, and what it did, I think one can read here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iraq

It stated that the sanctions reached their goals in that Iraq's armaments "had been eliminated by the UN sanctions." This leads to the question why USA think Iraq has WMD later which led to the start of the 2nd Gulf War.
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(29-03-2022, 06:42 AM)Levin Wrote:  No. The first Gulf War happened in 1991 in response to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. Albright was still at Georgetown University at that time. In 1996, while she was US ambassador to UN, she made the controversial remark that half a million Iraqi children dying is worth it on TV. I found out just a while ago that she had apologised for that remark in 2020 in another interview. Too late I guess. And she still maintained that sanctions while causing hardships are the best means.

She is quite a hawk based on what I have read so far as she is very supportive of military action, not just in Middle East but also in Europe.

Many of such decisions are not simple

Iraq engage in war with Iran and the deaths was in millions.

Iraq used chemical weapon against kurds and invaded Kuwait.

To do nothing and let Saddam thriv and build up his weapons arsenal for the next war would be even more disastrous.

As for 500K iraqi children dying. Saddam and his family was luving in luxury so were his cronies. He was still spending on his nilitary and security forces

I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
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(29-03-2022, 07:12 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Many of such decisions are not simple

Iraq engage in war with Iran and the deaths was in millions.

Iraq used chemical weapon against kurds and invaded Kuwait.

To do nothing and let Saddam thriv and build up his weapons arsenal for the next war would be even more disastrous.

As for 500K iraqi children dying. Saddam and his family was luving in luxury so were his cronies. He was still spending on his nilitary and security forces

I just re-read my post. I think I forgot to write the exact reason why I say "no" in reply to your earlier post. My fault. That's the problem with writing and posting in haste.

My "no" was that the sanctions came later after the war. The war was in response to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. The sanctions that came after the first Gulf War was to "prevent Iraq from having weapons". Thus my "no" was merely to point out that the sanctions were not because of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait as Iraq has already retreated from Kuwait and was defeated. Maybe it is indirectly related but that was not the main reason.
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