30-10-2021, 09:27 AM
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Iron ore
03-11-2021, 09:33 AM
09-11-2021, 12:23 PM
09-11-2021, 02:19 PM
What the Chinese people now should be worried about is not about iron-ore prices. Only those who hated Australia so much would want to continue monitoring them. Anyway, iron-ore has hit the bottom, it will renounce very soon.
On the other hand, the energy price especially the coal price is what the National Chinese should be worried about and also something for all of us to rethink our own strategy.
This energy price came out not because there was a real World shortage in oil or coal supply. Though there is the effect of coronavirus and economy slow down, this energy crisis stands out very strongly out because of some reasons best known to some of you. It started with China's embargo of Australian coal.
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On the other hand, the energy price especially the coal price is what the National Chinese should be worried about and also something for all of us to rethink our own strategy.
This energy price came out not because there was a real World shortage in oil or coal supply. Though there is the effect of coronavirus and economy slow down, this energy crisis stands out very strongly out because of some reasons best known to some of you. It started with China's embargo of Australian coal.
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10-11-2021, 11:47 AM
08-12-2021, 12:34 PM
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-1.../100679652
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Alarmingly, the average suicide rate in farmers was almost 60 per cent higher than non-farmers, according to the coronial data.
08-12-2021, 01:45 PM
all the stupid moronic 5 cents here, australia only 20-30mil people, their resources probably more than china, what to worry?
from land to sea ocean to sky, all the free natural to share among 25 mil people for few hundreds generations.
china 1.4bil fighting for all the fake & junk, milk powder? quality food? coal? oil?
Iron ore to australia is minor, market up down is norm, australia per capita today still easily 500% or more higher than china.
they want more, just dig more.
人口跟台灣一樣，GDP卻在全球排行第13，更創下世界最長不衰退紀錄 - 澳洲
from land to sea ocean to sky, all the free natural to share among 25 mil people for few hundreds generations.
china 1.4bil fighting for all the fake & junk, milk powder? quality food? coal? oil?
Iron ore to australia is minor, market up down is norm, australia per capita today still easily 500% or more higher than china.
they want more, just dig more.
人口跟台灣一樣，GDP卻在全球排行第13，更創下世界最長不衰退紀錄 - 澳洲
08-12-2021, 02:04 PM
Australia needs to find new iron ore export markets
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Australia has good many reasons to diversify its iron ore exports, which totaled 600 million tons in 2020, as China's iron ore imports are likely to be halved by 2030 as the scrap steel recycling industry in China expands rapidly, said a top executive of a German scrap steel recycling company.
A significant decrease in China's imports of iron ore will be made possible by the development of the recycling of scrap steel, Rafael Suchan, CEO of Germany-based metal recycling company Scholz Recycling Group, told the Global Times on the sideline of a trade and investment symposium held in Ningbo, East China's Zhejiang Province.
China, the world's top importer of iron ore and largest steel producer, imported 1.17 billion tons of iron ore in 2020, customs data showed. In the same year, the country produced for the first time a record 1 billion tons of raw steel.
Of the 1 billion tons of crude steel now being produced in China, about 22 percent is based on recycled scrap steel, Suchan said.
Under China's 14th Five-year Plan (2021-2025), the ratio is to be increased to 30 percent by 2025, which means that 330 million tons of recycled scrap steel will be used to produce steel, an increase of 50 percent from the current level, said Suchan. The recycling industry for scrap steel in China will double in the next 10 years.
"For every ton of steel that is based on scrap steel, you save 1.6 tons of iron ore," Suchan said. "By 2025, if China's plan to make steel from scrap goes as planned, the country will save 480 million tons of iron ore imports each year. By 2030, imports will decrease by 660 million tons annually."
Wang Guoqing, research director at the Beijing Lange Steel Information Research Center, told the Global Times on Tuesday that the projection made by Suchan is "theoretically possible", considering the carbon neutrality goals of the Chinese steelmaking industry.
By 2030, China's output of roughly 1 billion tons of crude steel will be produced using 400 million tons of scrap steel and 560 million tons of pig iron, Wang said.
Chen Hong, a professor and director of the Australian Studies Center at the East China Normal University, told the Global Times on Tuesday that China's efforts to diversify its sources of iron ore and beef up the use of recycled steel could lead to drastic reduction of imports of Australian iron ore.
If supplies from some African iron ore producing countries increase by 2030, imports of Australian iron ore could even be cut by more than half, said Chen.
Chen urged the Morrison administration to stop deluding people in Australia by creating an illusion that bilateral trade is not being hit by the fraught relations.
"When China cuts imports of Australian iron ore, the Australian economy could enter a 'wintry period'," he noted.
Economic and trade decoupling with any country is the last thing China wants to see, Chen said.
However, Canberra's discriminatory policies against China and Chinese businesses, and some Australian politicians' and media outlets' outright threats to cut or stop iron ore exports to China, have sounded the alarm bell to Chinese decision-makers and businesses, Chen said.
Australia has good many reasons to diversify its iron ore exports, which totaled 600 million tons in 2020, as China's iron ore imports are likely to be halved by 2030 as the scrap steel recycling industry in China expands rapidly, said a top executive of a German scrap steel recycling company.
A significant decrease in China's imports of iron ore will be made possible by the development of the recycling of scrap steel, Rafael Suchan, CEO of Germany-based metal recycling company Scholz Recycling Group, told the Global Times on the sideline of a trade and investment symposium held in Ningbo, East China's Zhejiang Province.
China, the world's top importer of iron ore and largest steel producer, imported 1.17 billion tons of iron ore in 2020, customs data showed. In the same year, the country produced for the first time a record 1 billion tons of raw steel.
Of the 1 billion tons of crude steel now being produced in China, about 22 percent is based on recycled scrap steel, Suchan said.
Under China's 14th Five-year Plan (2021-2025), the ratio is to be increased to 30 percent by 2025, which means that 330 million tons of recycled scrap steel will be used to produce steel, an increase of 50 percent from the current level, said Suchan. The recycling industry for scrap steel in China will double in the next 10 years.
"For every ton of steel that is based on scrap steel, you save 1.6 tons of iron ore," Suchan said. "By 2025, if China's plan to make steel from scrap goes as planned, the country will save 480 million tons of iron ore imports each year. By 2030, imports will decrease by 660 million tons annually."
Wang Guoqing, research director at the Beijing Lange Steel Information Research Center, told the Global Times on Tuesday that the projection made by Suchan is "theoretically possible", considering the carbon neutrality goals of the Chinese steelmaking industry.
By 2030, China's output of roughly 1 billion tons of crude steel will be produced using 400 million tons of scrap steel and 560 million tons of pig iron, Wang said.
Chen Hong, a professor and director of the Australian Studies Center at the East China Normal University, told the Global Times on Tuesday that China's efforts to diversify its sources of iron ore and beef up the use of recycled steel could lead to drastic reduction of imports of Australian iron ore.
If supplies from some African iron ore producing countries increase by 2030, imports of Australian iron ore could even be cut by more than half, said Chen.
Chen urged the Morrison administration to stop deluding people in Australia by creating an illusion that bilateral trade is not being hit by the fraught relations.
"When China cuts imports of Australian iron ore, the Australian economy could enter a 'wintry period'," he noted.
Economic and trade decoupling with any country is the last thing China wants to see, Chen said.
However, Canberra's discriminatory policies against China and Chinese businesses, and some Australian politicians' and media outlets' outright threats to cut or stop iron ore exports to China, have sounded the alarm bell to Chinese decision-makers and businesses, Chen said.
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08-12-2021, 02:09 PM
The iron ore Australia ships from the Port Hedland and Dampier ports in the Pilbara is worth about 5 per cent of Australia's GDP. It's about 20 per cent of all of Australia's exports.
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08-12-2021, 02:26 PM
(08-12-2021, 01:45 PM)kokee Wrote: all the stupid moronic 5 cents here, australia only 20-30mil people, their resources probably more than china, what to worry?
from land to sea ocean to sky, all the free natural to share among 25 mil people for few hundreds generations.
china 1.4bil fighting for all the fake & junk, milk powder? quality food? coal? oil?
Iron ore to australia is minor, market up down is norm, australia per capita today still easily 500% or more higher than china.
they want more, just dig more.
人口跟台灣一樣，GDP卻在全球排行第13，更創下世界最長不衰退紀錄 - 澳洲
global price down, not only australia, china too.
why down, because mainly china no demand. Due to china property crashing hard now, no money for infrastructure, whole china govt servant cut pay, many china bond defaulted, china stock meltdown.
evergrande stock price easily down 80-90% from peak.
crash china property, who bother iron ore price.
中國17家千億級房企股價已跌超50%
中国经济的谎言与真相/年关在即公务员降薪的启示
08-12-2021, 02:37 PM
(08-12-2021, 02:26 PM)kokee Wrote: 中國17家千億級房企股價已跌超50%
中国经济的谎言与真相/年关在即公务员降薪的启示
Hello, Century!
You have been talking about collapse of China for how many years liao?
Has China collapsed?
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