[forum456]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapor...in-5110851


Labour chief Ng Chee Meng, who was recently elected as MP for Jalan Kayu SMC, has also been photographed with Su.


He has not commented on the photo, which has not been verified.

Su, a Cypriot national, was among 10 people arrested during raids in August 2023 related to Singapore's largest money laundering case.

He was sentenced to 14 months' jail in April last year.

In total, more than S$3 billion (US$2.2 billion) in assets have been seized or frozen in relation to the case.

[Alice Alicia]

Ng chee Meng is the only beneficiary.

[forum456]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/p...-statement

[forum456]

Ng chee Meng is the only beneficiary.

By-election possible ?

[Niubee]

Demote NCM.

[forum456]

[luncheonmeat]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/p...-statement

How come Sinpwn's benefactor Ah Su become known as the Fujian gang member when he was in reality ony a philanthropic syndicate towkay dat was  involved in illegal online gamblingand not violence and extortions etc.

Popiah King liked him so much he invited him to all the PAPaya social dinners but now dat Ah Su has a criminal record everyone treat dis beri generous man like rat crossing street. The horror.

[Bigiron]

what are the flaw, inconsistent, contradiction and motherhood statement and round about answer in it

Certainly! Here’s an analysis of the official response regarding the Ong Ye Kung, Chee Hong Tat, and Su Haijin matter, highlighting potential flaws, inconsistencies, contradictions, motherhood statements, and roundabout answers.

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## **Flaws and Inconsistencies**

- **Unverified Presence at Dinners:** The ministers’ press secretaries state that Ong and Chee do not know Su Haijin personally and have no dealings with him. However, their presence at dinners where Su was also present is confirmed, but the nature and frequency of these events is not clearly specified. The explanation that they attended at a friend’s invitation and only saw Su later at another dinner is vague and does not fully clarify the extent of any incidental contact[1].
- **Lack of Independent Verification:** There is no independent verification of the ministers’ claims that they had no personal interaction or dealings with Su Haijin. The public must rely solely on official statements, which may be seen as insufficient in the absence of third-party corroboration.

## **Contradictions**

- **Official Statement vs. Public Perception:** While the official line is that there was no personal or professional relationship, the ministers’ presence in public photographs with a convicted criminal fuels public suspicion and contradicts the image of strict integrity the government seeks to project. This creates a gap between official assurances and public trust[1].
- **Silence on Similar Cases:** The response does not address similar cases involving other politicians, such as Ng Chee Meng, whose photo with Su Haijin is also circulating but remains unverified and unaddressed by the authorities[2][6]. This selective response may be seen as inconsistent or incomplete.

## **Motherhood Statements**

- **Commitment to Integrity:** The press secretaries’ emphasis on the PAP government’s commitment to integrity is a classic motherhood statement-broad, aspirational, and difficult to dispute, but lacking specific actions or accountability measures[1].
- **Non-Negotiable Standards:** Statements like “maintaining integrity is non-negotiable” are rhetorical and do not provide concrete details on how such standards are enforced or monitored in practice[1].

## **Roundabout Answers**

- **Circumstantial Explanations:** The explanations about how the ministers ended up in the same photos-attending dinners at a friend’s invitation, with Su Haijin present-are roundabout. They do not directly address whether any due diligence was done before attending such events or whether protocols exist to avoid such associations[1].
- **No Direct Denial of Inappropriate Conduct:** The response does not directly deny any inappropriate conduct; instead, it focuses on the absence of personal dealings, which is a narrower claim and leaves open questions about the appropriateness of being photographed with a convicted criminal at public events[1].

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**In summary:** The official response contains elements that are vague, rhetorical, and insufficiently specific, leaving room for public skepticism about the ministers’ conduct and the government’s handling of such incidents. The lack of independent verification and the use of broad, aspirational language further weaken the credibility of the explanation[1][2][6].

Citations:
[1] Su Haijin & Ng Chee Meng : r/singapore - Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comme...chee_meng/
[2] Likely Harmful/Untrue - Claim linking Su Haijin to laundering gang https://checkmate.sg/check/claim-linking...ang-AS8Qre
[3] The $2bn dirty-money case that rocked Singapore - BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66840450
[4] Gross.... : r/SingaporeRaw - Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/SingaporeRaw/co...26e/gross/
[5] Ministers among more than 100 Singapore public servants sent ... https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapor...es-4775931
[6] Stop Ng Chee Meng from Joining Singapore Cabinet - Change.org https://www.change.org/p/stop-ng-chee-me...re-cabinet
[7] How Suspects Laundered Billions in Singapore for Years - Bloomberg https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...ering-case
[8] $3b money laundering case: 10 convicted, 17 on the run; police are ... https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/3...onvicted-1
7-on-the-run-police-are-after-the-rest

[Bigiron]

What has NCM stated about the photo with Su Haijin

Ng Chee Meng (NCM) has **not made any public statement or comment whatsoever regarding the photo of him with Su Haijin, the convicted money launderer**. The authenticity and context of the photo have not been verified, and **NCM has not denied or responded to its circulation online or to any allegations of association** with Su Haijin[2][4]. Mainstream media reports and fact-checking platforms have also noted the absence of any credible evidence or verified source supporting a connection between NCM and Su Haijin[3][4]. 

In summary, **NCM has not addressed, acknowledged, or clarified the photo with Su Haijin**.

Citations:
[1] Su Haijin & Ng Chee Meng : r/singapore - Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comme...chee_meng/
[2] Stop Ng Chee Meng from Joining Singapore Cabinet - Change.org https://www.change.org/p/stop-ng-chee-me...re-cabinet
[3] Likely Harmful/Untrue - Claim linking Su Haijin to laundering gang https://checkmate.sg/check/claim-linking...ang-AS8Qre
[4] Ong Ye Kung, Chee Hong Tat have no dealings with Fujian gang ... https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapor...in-5110851
[5] Gross.... : r/SingaporeRaw - Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/SingaporeRaw/co...26e/gross/
[6] Wow really ? Su Haijin & Ng Chee Meng Part 2 - SG Talk https://sgtalk.net/Thread-Wow-really-Su-Haijin-Ng-Chee
-Meng-Part-2

[forum456]

SM Lee has defended Ng Chee Meng for the Income-Allianz saga.

will SM Lee come out to defend Ng Chee Meng again ?

[forum456]

need to investigate if any of them got accept expensive gifts like Iswaran case ?

why Ng Chee Meng keeps quiet if he is innocent ?

[Ola]

I am sure 101% that LHL and LW will defend him all the way

The Wayang to hand over Iswaran is to shut the mouth of the 66% Naive people

If they support such a Rotten Rogue,

then it shows how rotten the Top is, too

[wulala]

really nothing? how come they didn't invite people like you and me?

[sgbuffett]

I
They athend a dinner together and a photo was taken.

Could be the organiser just invite variohs people to join and NCM had no idea who else was invited.

Alghough I dont like NCM and the Allainz  deal, I think its wrong to just insinuate based on one photo.

[forum456]

I
They athend a dinner together and a photo was taken.

Could be the organiser just invite variohs people to join and NCM had no idea who else was invited.

Alghough I dont like NCM and the Allainz  deal, I think its wrong to just insinuate based on one photo.

Why Ng chee meng keeps quiet and refuses to reply?

[wulala]

In the first place, as a public figure taking such photo without the present or other members may one day turn against their action. Why aren't they avoiding?

[forum456]

after half a day, still no reply from Ng Chee Meng ?

[Sentinel]

I
They athend a dinner together and a photo was taken.

Could be the organiser just invite variohs people to join and NCM had no idea who else was invited.

Alghough I dont like NCM and the Allainz  deal, I think its wrong to just insinuate based on one photo.

We need to know what dinners these 3 buggers attended to

I also hold dinners but I can't get any Whites or Oppositions to attend because they always afraid of "guilt by association"

As PAP or political party members, you not only need to be white. You have to be seen whiter than white

This is a grave cause of concern, as background checks must be conducted by them before agreeing to attend any dinners

If not, just have dinners with their own family members

No smoke without fire!

[revealer]

Thought politicians r supposed to b friendly and they like mingle around with the public to garner public support and votes.  Can they refuse the request of public wanting to shake hands with them or having a photo taken in a function of any kind? Remember tt Su Haijin or one member claimed to b active in PAP grass volunteer b4 he was convicted. Having a photo taken with such person made him a criminal too?

[forum456]

I
They athend a dinner together and a photo was taken.

Could be the organiser just invite variohs people to join and NCM had no idea who else was invited.

Alghough I dont like NCM and the Allainz  deal, I think its wrong to just insinuate based on one photo.

is it possible that Ng Chee Meng trying to sell NTUC Income to him ?

[Cmpunk]

Not clean at all if the dinner is with opposition party members?

[Sentinel]

Thought politicians r supposed to b friendly and they like mingle around with the public to garner public support and votes.  Can they refuse the request of public wanting to shake hands with them or having a photo taken in a function of any kind?  Remember tt Su Haijin or one member claimed to b was once active PAP grass volunteer b4 he was convicted. Having a photo taken with such person made him a criminal too?

Yes, it shows a total lack of discernment at the higher levels of office, perhaps even personal interests involved in this mess too