[theold]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/o...s-war-gaza

[Simplemen]

The most powerful military in the mid east need the assistance of the most powerful military in the world to fight a bunch of ragtag resistance fighters (& kill more civilians)

What does that tell you

[Goldmine]

The most powerful military in the mid east need the assistance of the most powerful military in the world to fight a bunch of ragtag resistance fighters (& kill more civilians)

What does that tell you

Ragtag?  Their multi-pronged attacks on Israel on 7 Oct 2023 was well planned. They got 100s of thousand of rockets, drones, vast weapons and intricate network of underground tunnels you call them ragtag fighters?

[Tangsen]

When they says they sending advisers usually means sending their mercenaries

[Simplemen]

Ragtag?  Their multi-pronged attacks on Israel on 7 Oct 2023 was well planned. They got 100s of thousand of rockets, drones, vast weapons and intricate network of underground tunnels you call them ragtag fighters?

Do you have the source of info to confirm the parts in bold?

[Goldmine]

Do you have the source of info to confirm the parts in bold?

Their brothers-in-arms - Hezbollah and Iran have.

[Alice Alicia]

The Hezbollah have 200k of missiles aimed at Israel.
Enough to bury neytanyahu alive.

https://english.alarabiya.net/topics/pal...think-tank

[Goldmine]

Ukraine is fighting against one adversary.
Israeli is currently  fighting 3 adversaries.
When they launched their ground offensives they may face 2 or three more fronts. They will be so outnumbered, of course they need US help to at least watch Iran. US being their ally will be drawn in.

[Gemstar]

At least the Ukrainians are doing most of the fighting themselves face to face against the Russian Army juggernaut

But the IDF need US troops to fight with them against the poorly armed ragtag Palestinians?

They are not poorly armed ragtag Palestinians. They hv brothers in arms from neighbouring countries to provide arms. So, it is fair that US provide Israel with sophisticated arms too.

[sogo]

They are not poorly armed ragtag Palestinians. They hv brothers in arms from neighbouring countries to provide arms. So, it is fair that US provide Israel with sophisticated arms too.

Lol. Those are not even some full army without air force and navies. U really like to use weird reasoning to justify 🤔

[Goldmine]

If they are well armed & not defenceless, why are  thousands of Palestinian men women children dying and thousands of Gaza homes, hospitals, schools, places of worship flattened?

These are casualties of war caught in the midst of rockets and missiles fired from both side of the divide. The perpetrators of the massacre were armed to the teeth when they gunned down the defendless music lovers at the beach and the surprised firing of 5000 rockets into Israel had killed many unsuspecting innocent victims in the neighbourhood. These victims are unarmed and defenceless when attack.

[sogo]

These are casualties of war caught in the midst of rockets and missiles fired from both side of the divide. The perpetrators of the massacre were armed to the teeth when they gunned down the defendless music lovers at the beach and the surprised firing of 5000 rockets into Israel had killed many unsuspecting innocent victims in the neighbourhood. These victims are unarmed and defenceless when attack.

If they have sam systems like s400. I think Israel planes will still be flying in at will to attack the civilians?

[Simplemen]

These are casualties of war caught in the midst of rockets and missiles fired from both side of the divide. The perpetrators of the massacre were armed to the teeth when they gunned down the defendless music lovers at the beach and the surprised firing of 5000 rockets into Israel had killed many unsuspecting innocent victims in the neighbourhood. These victims are unarmed and defenceless when attack.

If Palestinians are "armed to the teeth" and they're merely caught in crossfire, why do we have this situation:

Palestinians killed (UN say)=5,000+
Israelis killed (Israel say)=1300+

Palestinians wounded(UN say)=15000+
Israelis wounded (Israel say)=3000+

Palestinian Homes, Hospitals, Schools, Buildings flattened=Thousands 

Israeli Homes, Hospital, Schools, Buildings flattened=Virtually Zero

[Goldmine]

If Palestinians are "armed to the teeth" and they're merely caught in crossfire, why do we have this situation:

Palestinians killed (UN say)=5,000+
Israelis killed (Israel say)=1300+

Palestinians wounded(UN say)=15000+
Israelis wounded (Israel say)=3000+

Palestinian Homes, Hospitals, Schools, Buildings flattened=Thousands 

Israeli Homes, Hospital, Schools, Buildings flattened=Virtually Zero

Hamas triggered the war by their brutal massaccres of 260 music goers and launching of 5,000 rockets into Israel.  In return Israel hit back with similar rockets bombardment on Hamas targets. The larger casualties on Gaza sides is because they don't have the Iron Dome to ward off the rockets. In prolong war casualties will continue to rise.

[sgh]

Hamas triggered the war by their brutal massaccres of 260 music goers and launching of 5,000 rockets into Israel.  In return Israel hit back with similar rockets bombardment on Hamas targets. The larger casualties on Gaza sides is because they don't have the Iron Dome to ward off the rockets. In prolong war casualties will continue to rise.

What cause the trigger? Is it a one off stuff? Obviously it must be years of pent up frustration and anger that slowly built up until it explode isn't it? What cause those emotions if not triggered by Israeli in the first place?

[Goldmine]

What cause the trigger? Is it a one off stuff? Obviously it must be years of pent up frustration and anger that slowly built up until it explode isn't it? What cause those emotions if not triggered by Israeli in the first place?

You are entitled to your opinion of years of pent up frustrations and anger. Does it gave Hanas the right to carry out this massacre? Surely they know that such attacks will trigger a war.  There will be no end if both sides refused to negotiate and come to a lasting peace agreement.

[sgh]

You are entitled to your opinion of years of pent up frustrations and anger. Does it gave Hanas the right to carry out this massacre? Surely they know that such attacks will trigger a war.  There will be no end if both sides refused to negotiate and come to a lasting peace agreement.

Their religion taught them "an eye for an eye" so with such teachings what to expect? Means hoot until the other disappear from the face of this Earth lor isn't it?

[Goldmine]

Their religion taught them "an eye for an eye" so with such teachings what to expect? Means hoot until the other disappear from the face of this Earth lor isn't it?

Yalor! Correct! Hanas only believed in arm settlement.

[sgh]

Yalor! Correct! Hanas only believed in arm settlement.

It is two way traffic lar. Hamas hoot them Israel hoot back "an eye for an eye" is what they are brought up and taught with since young till adulthood.

[Goldmine]

It is two way traffic lar. Hamas hoot them Israel hoot back "an eye for an eye" is what they are brought up and taught with since young till adulthood.

If that is the case then all countries should just shut up. Don't take side. Ignore them.  Let them bloodied themselves.  Maybe when they see the indifference of all countries, nobody cares their survivor, they automatically raised white flag to each other. Lol.

[sgh]

If that is the case then all countries should just shut up. Don't take side. Ignore them.  Let them bloodied themselves.  Maybe when they see the indifference of all countries, nobody cares their survivor, they automatically raised white flag to each other. Lol.

Becuz Israel play cheat got US make sound never shut up so other Arab countries also make sound lor.

[Simplemen]

Hamas triggered the war by their brutal massaccres of 260 music goers and launching of 5,000 rockets into Israel.  In return Israel hit back with similar rockets bombardment on Hamas targets. The larger casualties on Gaza sides is because they don't have the Iron Dome to ward off the rockets. In prolong war casualties will continue to rise.

If Israel treat Palestinians decently, then its fair to say Hamas triggered it. 

But the Israelis steal Palestinian land, drive them out of their homes, slaughter their men, women & children for decades. Is that decent treatment? 

You do these over & over for that long surely one day they will go berserk. Not saying that violence is justified but the violence that happened on 7 Oct was a result of 70 years of violent oppression.

[Goldmine]

If Israel treat Palestinians decently, then its fair to say Hamas triggered it. 

But the Israelis steal Palestinian land, drive them out of their homes, slaughter their men, women & children for decades. Is that decent treatment? 

You do these over & over for that long surely one day they will go berserk. Not saying that violence is justified but the violence that happened on 7 Oct was a result of 70 years of violent oppression.

Ok let them wipe each other out.  Too tired hearing the history over and over again. No ending. 3rd WW will put an end to it.  Good to reduce population and jobs scarcity around the world. The world is too populated. 3rd WW is the answer perhaps!