[singaporean1964]

[Bigbluedot]

Why always tested negative?

[singaporean1964]

Why always tested negative?

becos its not covid
but pneuonia that kill him

so this covid is confusing doctors
we are so focus on covid
yet when pneumonia strike
no one seem to know

[theold]

ART can test negative. But if conduct PCR test, it is more accurate. Even those who got Covid can get Negative ART test later when recovered. But the PCR test can still be positive. 

So far cannot find any answer for how long those recovered from Covid can test negative for PCR test. The only clue is that the loss of senses like smell and taste are still there.

That might be the reason why most of the airlines required a PCR test.

[menghuii]

i believe the hospice staff did only art
learn fr this:
insist on pcr since unwell

[debono]

becos its not covid
but pneuonia that kill him

so this covid is confusing doctors
we are so focus on covid
yet when pneumonia strike
no one seem to know

I am surprised that a doctor cannot detect pneumonia in a person.  Doesn't mean that old people must be tested for Covid-19, there could be other illness that can seem to be Coviid-19 but is actually not and is really pneumonia .....Haiz..

[theold]

The signs above looks like Covid. Cough, flu and loss of taste.

[Notdumb]

My mom kena pneumonia too a few mths back. She just went polyclinic for some cough and they straight away took x ray to see. On same day doc already told her got pneumonia. Meds antibiotics then go back for check up again.

Now ok liao.

[forum456]

something is not right.

heart attack can die at home because it is sudden.

pneumonia is not sudden, it is a lung infection.

once you have breathing problem, he should go to A&E or call ambulance.

Why no one in his family called ambulance when he has first sight of breathing problem ?

[debono]

something is not right.

heart attack can die at home because it is sudden.

pneumonia is not sudden, it is a lung infection.

once you have breathing problem, he should go to A&E or call ambulance.

Why no one in his family called ambulance when he has first sight of breathing problem ?

Having breathing problem is not an emergency case, therefore there is no hurry to rush to A&E dept.  Having said that the doctor who had seen her dad should know that some symptoms as in breathing problem, loss of taste and a slight fever must be a Covid-19 infection, thus the doctor perform a ART on her dad, only to find out that he is covid-19 negative.....

[menghuii]

something is not right.

heart attack can die at home because it is sudden.

pneumonia is not sudden, it is a lung infection.

once you have breathing problem, he should go to A&E or call ambulance.

Why no one in his family called ambulance when he has first sight of breathing problem ?

home recovery is not right fr start
no monitoring lock in rm
no med professionals to take care
family trying to avoid for fear of covid
so who knows whadehell's going on?

[singlon]

ART can test negative. But if conduct PCR test, it is more accurate. Even those who got Covid can get Negative ART test later when recovered. But the PCR test can still be positive. 

So far cannot find any answer for how long those recovered from Covid can test negative for PCR test. The only clue is that the loss of senses like smell and taste are still there.

That might be the reason why most of the airlines required a PCR test.

arr PCR might be worse.
want up also can
want down also can
It is the NUMBER
No sample of the cannot use the word virus as it is simply poison or exosomes
we use pathogen. u know something codes with proteins shell.

[theold]

Home Recovery ends up with a lot of people staying in hotels. It is a lot of money.

But guess, we have got no choice as our health system maybe overloaded.

[debono]

Yes do a ART or PCR test, to ascertain whether one is Covid-19 positive.  But doctors should not automatically diagnose it as such, but he./she must make a judgement is it is pneumonia and treat it accordingly so that a life will not be lost, every life is a precious life, somebody's father, mother, grandfather, grandmother....

[singlon]

Danger now is all hospital workers disappear.
Slowly they wake up
It only take 15 minutes to start the fire
First sentence:
Coronavirus causing covid19 does not exist.
They struggle and hate each other but it only take
a Dr. to explain.

[forum456]

Having breathing problem is not an emergency case, therefore there is no hurry to rush to A&E dept.  Having said that the doctor who had seen her dad should know that some symptoms as in breathing problem, loss of taste and a slight fever must be a Covid-19 infection, thus the doctor perform a ART on her dad, only to find out that he is covid-19 negative.....

you can get admitted for breathing problem at A&E.
pneumonia can be detected with x ray.

why 3 days later died at home ?
on the 1st or 2nd last day, he should be at A&E.
To die on 3rd day means his condition was very serious on 1st and 2nd day.
he might be alone at home without any family member.

[forum456]

home recovery is not right fr start
no monitoring lock in rm
no med professionals to take care
family trying to avoid for fear of covid
so who knows whadehell's going on?

he was not on home recovery because he had no covid and died of  pneumonia

[menghuii]

he was not on home recovery because he had no covid and died of  pneumonia

ya no covid (art?) but he has symptoms. shld not hv gone home since got symptoms

[debono]

he was not on home recovery because he had no covid and died of  pneumonia

Pneumonia is a relatively common  illness for the elderly.....and if properly monitored and well cared for can easily be cured.....

[forum456]

From my experience with friends and relatives, usually seniors die at home because they live alone or no family member at home for long period.

if family member is at home, they will send senior to A&E at first sight of breathing problem on 1st day and not die on 3rd day.

pneumonia takes time to become deadly serious.
it can be prevented and detected early by family member.

[forum456]

ya no covid (art?) but he has symptoms. shld not hv gone home since got symptoms

these symptoms can be other illness.
it is up to doctor to diagnose.

[WhatDoYouThink?]

ahtiong's qingfei paidu decoction hv shown to be effective against acute pneumonia, and may hv saved a life

[debono]

ahtiong's qingfei paidu decoction hv shown to be effective against acute pneumonia, and may hv saved a life

But many here prefer a western trained doctor....leh...

[forum456]

ya no covid (art?) but he has symptoms. shld not hv gone home since got symptoms

he was a subsidised patient.
A&E will just follow procedure and if nothing get detected, he will be discharged.
A&E will only admit you when they detect serious problem with you.

the trick is to keep visiting A&E when your condition get serious until they can detect problem in you.
you will get admitted.
he should have visited A&E again on 1st day and 2nd day and not die on 3rd day

[debono]

he was a subsidised patient.
A&E will just follow procedure and if nothing get detected, he will be discharged.
A&E will only admit you when they detect serious problem with you.

Yes our A&E dept caters to those who are in urgent need of medical assistance......those that are dying of bleeding, heart attack and the like.....

[menghuii]

he was a subsidised patient.
A&E will just follow procedure and if nothing get detected, he will be discharged.
A&E will only admit you when they detect serious problem with you.

the trick is to keep visiting A&E when your condition get serious until they can detect problem in you.
you will get admitted.
he should have visited A&E again on 1st day and 2nd day and not die on 3rd day

saying is easy but your oldman may not want to visit n visit. some actually dont like to see doctor at all!

[Ola]

From the web-

False negatives can occur for a number of reasons, including people being tested too soon after exposure to the virus (which may not let enough of the virus build up to a level that is detectable).

Our study showed that some patients with acute COVID-19 may test repeatedly negative by nasopharyngeal swab PCR. These cases should be interpreted as a low viral load in the upper respiratory tract rather than false negativity of PCR.

[Gemstar]

I am surprised that a doctor cannot detect pneumonia in a person.  Doesn't mean that old people must be tested for Covid-19, there could be other illness that can seem to be Coviid-19 but is actually not and is really pneumonia .....Haiz..

 pneumonia can be saved.  My Dad got pneumonia when he was age 90 and almost died. He was given antibiotics.  And, he woke up on the 4th day.  He survived till the age of 96.

[forum456]

let me share a real case of a relative.

his heart artery was 98% blocked in Jan 2021.
he had chest symptom,he went to A&E.
A&E took blood test and discharged him because they could not detect any sign of heart attack.
he was referred to specialist and heart scan in April 2021 
long queue of patients waiting for heart scan and need to wait 3 to 4 months for appt.

after heart scan in April 2021, they detected 98% blockage.
he was admitted to hospital on that day and operated the next day.
doctor told him that he could have died any time between Jan 2021 to April 2021 if heart attack had happened.

we have many people dying of heart attack because they did not go for heart scan or delay going for heart scan due to long queue.
heart attack can be detected early if you go for heart scan early

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