Singapore unlikely to have a two-party political system like those in
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(14-01-2022, 02:31 PM)Notdumb Wrote:  Best system is like China....no voting. Becos too many dumbfarks wont know who to vote.

In China all capable leaders are selected from the lowest rank and groom upwards. Not like SG or other stupid Demoncratic country any tom dick or harry can become a minister.

Ukraine’s PM is a comedian who has zero experience in politics let alone ruling a country. Czech’s former President was a writer. The Philippines ex-President was an actor. Boris Johnson was a journalist in his former life and was suspended after he reported fake news. 

Leaders or ministers must have years of political experience before they are allowed to take the positions, if not, they will fail badly.
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(14-01-2022, 02:56 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  Ukraine’s PM is a comedian who has zero experience in politics let alone ruling a country. Czech’s former President was a writer. The Philippines ex-President was an actor. Boris Johnson was a journalist in his former life and was suspended after he reported fake news. 

Leaders or ministers must have years of political experience before they are allowed to take the positions, if not, they will fail badly.

ronald regan lagi better he  was an actor 
did he fail?
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#33

(14-01-2022, 01:25 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  These people are not kind, they are very good at playing nasty tricks in party politics rather than running a country, look at Japan and Britain, PM could only last for a few months to a year.

In Australia backstabbing has got a few PMs lose jobs in recent years.

This is what I want to point out.
I agreed with your comments.

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
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#34

(14-01-2022, 03:10 PM)talky Wrote:  ronald regan lagi better he  was an actor 
did he fail?

Although he was an actor in his early life he has 22 year political experience. 

When you say he is better, in what sense? Does he improve the life of ordinary Americans? Did he give American Medicare system and eliminate poverty? Nope. He’s popular only in international stage as he destructed Soviet Union and ended Cold War, does that benefit ordinary Americans? Nothing much.

In fact many say he’s a terrible president.

https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/21reas...epresident

https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/21reas...epresident
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(14-01-2022, 02:56 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  Ukraine’s PM is a comedian who has zero experience in politics let alone ruling a country. Czech’s former President was a writer. The Philippines ex-President was an actor. Boris Johnson was a journalist in his former life and was suspended after he reported fake news. 

Leaders or ministers must have years of political experience before they are allowed to take the positions, if not, they will fail badly.

Did you know Ronald Reagan was an actor, but he was considered one of the great US presidents? Rotfl

Liu Bang was a hooligan, he was one of the best emperors in China history.
Becos of him, Confucius can last till today.

Zhu Yan Zhang was a monk and he was one of the hardworking emperors in China history.

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
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(14-01-2022, 03:23 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote:  Did you know Ronald Reagan was an actor, but he was considered one of the great US presidents? Rotfl

Read above for my reply. Actually he had 22 year experience in politics unlike Ukraine PM who is a newbie.

https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/21reas...epresident
https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/21reas...epresident
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(14-01-2022, 03:23 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote:  Did you know Ronald Reagan was an actor, but he was considered one of the great US presidents? Rotfl

Liu Bang was a hooligan, he was one of the best emperors in China history.
Zhu Yan Zhang was a monk and he was one of the hardworking emperors in China history.

ching long emperor  of ching dynasty was 1 of the longest emperor in china
in his early dys as emperor was a gd one
in his later yrs he trusted blindly the most corrupted offcer in china history
he closed border w world trade,tooo arrogant to allow western tech into china that leads to the start of ching dybnasty fall
he was emperor of the emperor overuled his appt son who was the emperor.
too long  holding power by 1 person is detrimental to the country.
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(14-01-2022, 03:33 PM)talky Wrote:  ching long emperor  of ching dynasty was 1 of the longest emperor in china
in his early dys as emperor was a gd one
in his later yrs he trusted blindly the most corrupted offcer in china history
he closed border w world trade,tooo arrogant to allow western tech into china that leads to the start of ching dybnasty fall
he was emperor of the emperor overuled his appt son who was the emperor.
too long  holding power by 1 person is detrimental to the country.

He liked to enjoy life, this brought the downfall of Qing Dynasty started from him. 超级大败家子。

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"
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(14-01-2022, 03:33 PM)talky Wrote:  ching long emperor  of ching dynasty was 1 of the longest emperor in china
in his early dys as emperor was a gd one
in his later yrs he trusted blindly the most corrupted offcer in china history
he closed border w world trade,tooo arrogant to allow western tech into china that leads to the start of ching dybnasty fall
he was emperor of the emperor overuled his appt son who was the emperor.
too long  holding power by 1 person is detrimental to the country.

You guys are off topic, we are talking about 2 party system in democracy, not emperor Qian Long or Liu Bang Confused
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#40

(14-01-2022, 01:14 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  You are too naive, it is a game,  the election is party politics, the garment is supposed to take care of people’s well being, however in reality the party only takes care of itself own interests to gain as much as it could during the term,  no wonder people are unhappy as the election promises are all not kept
I am not naive. Maybe you are. If you don't change, you never know if the current one is good or bad or ugly.

Only with a change then there is a basis of comparison. You yourself said the party only take care of itself own interest, so why not change?

Ultimately, make it a business where the party that deliver the most carrot to me win my vote.

1. I have served the nation in a combat unit for 2.5 + 10 years. I had fulfilled my duty as a citizen, but has the country do it's part for me?
2. I don't know where the threat of CCP is, but I know the threat of CECA is already at my doorsteps
3. I had been called a CCP, JHK, Pinoy, but they never called me a CECA..
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(14-01-2022, 03:59 PM)ArielCasper Wrote:  I am not naive. Maybe you are. If you don't change, you never know if the current one is good or bad or ugly.

Only with a change then there is a basis of comparison. You yourself said the party only take care of itself own interest, so why not change?

Ask American people, they voted big mouth Trump who achieved nothing other than trade war with China and building wall along Mexican border asking Mexico to foot the bill. Then they voted Biden, oops, sleepy Joe is even worse, now what? Voting for Trump again in 2024? A dead lock? Election is to get better leader not for the sake of voting and get nothing.

Why not change? It has been like that for decades, party politics in the US gets worse over the years, nobody can change, just like in a new company with bad culture, you want to change but everyone is against you.
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(14-01-2022, 04:06 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  Ask American people, they voted big mouth Trump who achieved nothing other than trade war with China and building wall along Mexican order asking Mexico to foot the bill. Then they voted Biden, oops, sleepy Joe is even worse, now what? Voting for Trump again in 2024? A dead lock? Election is to get better leader not for the sake of voting and get nothing.

Why not change? It has been like that for decades, party politics in the US gets worse other the years, body can change, just like in a new company with bad culture, you want to change but everything is against you.
So you are suggesting that trump shouldn't be voted out?

The election is never about biden Vs trump. It is about pro trump Vs anti trump. At the end of the day, anti trump won the game, that's all.

1. I have served the nation in a combat unit for 2.5 + 10 years. I had fulfilled my duty as a citizen, but has the country do it's part for me?
2. I don't know where the threat of CCP is, but I know the threat of CECA is already at my doorsteps
3. I had been called a CCP, JHK, Pinoy, but they never called me a CECA..
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(14-01-2022, 04:08 PM)ArielCasper Wrote:  So you are suggesting that trump shouldn't be voted out?

The election is never about biden Vs trump. It is about pro trump Vs anti trump. At the end of the day, anti trump won the game, that's all.

You missed my point, I am saying, two party system fails when both parties are lousy. You vote A for president he failed, you vote B for president he also failed, then what is the solution?  Thinking
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(14-01-2022, 04:11 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  You missed my point, I am saying, two party system fails when both parties are lousy. You vote A for president he failed, you vote B for president he also failed, then what is the solution?  Thinking

Furthermore the Democrats is no longer representing working class people, it becomes like the Republicans. 

In the US the garment only take care the rich people who support them with money during election…Trump slashed taxes for ultra rich Americans yet he did nothing to help middle class and poor people.

As a superpower, the US doesn’t even care about its own people, there’s no universal Medicare system in place, seeing a doctor could cost you a bomb….as a result many Americans stay & die at home even after they kena cancer, can’t afford seeing a specialist.
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(14-01-2022, 03:59 PM)ArielCasper Wrote:  I am not naive. Maybe you are. If you don't change, you never know if the current one is good or bad or ugly.

Only with a change then there is a basis of comparison. You yourself said the party only take care of itself own interest, so why not change?

Ultimately, make it a business where the party that deliver the most carrot to me win my vote.

U love PAP chicken wings. Laughing
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#46

(14-01-2022, 06:26 AM)Bigiron Wrote:  Singapore unlikely to have a two-party political system like those in the US and the UK: Ong Ye Kung 

https://youtu.be/pBKoaHa7zIE

Is he the next pm?
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(14-01-2022, 04:11 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  You missed my point, I am saying, two party system fails when both parties are lousy. You vote A for president he failed, you vote B for president he also failed, then what is the solution?  Thinking

If that day ever comes, then all of us here should go and form party c, or get out of this country since it is hopeless..

1. I have served the nation in a combat unit for 2.5 + 10 years. I had fulfilled my duty as a citizen, but has the country do it's part for me?
2. I don't know where the threat of CCP is, but I know the threat of CECA is already at my doorsteps
3. I had been called a CCP, JHK, Pinoy, but they never called me a CECA..
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#48

(14-01-2022, 04:24 PM)Notdumb Wrote:  U love PAP chicken wings. Laughing

I love opposition chicken wings, since whoever is the govt will need to be under our supervision.

1. I have served the nation in a combat unit for 2.5 + 10 years. I had fulfilled my duty as a citizen, but has the country do it's part for me?
2. I don't know where the threat of CCP is, but I know the threat of CECA is already at my doorsteps
3. I had been called a CCP, JHK, Pinoy, but they never called me a CECA..
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Due to Klaus Schwab Great reset this gov might be gone.
Former One world Gov Later adverse effects
too much poisons from Jabs.
No good card for PAP.
IAM wori
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(14-01-2022, 01:24 PM)lvlrsSTI Wrote:  Multi-Party system is better than two-party system, because two big parties continuously dominate the garment even if they are very lousy, other parties have no chance to get elected, this is not very democratic at all.

Two party system looks better than one party system, unreality it is not much better.

Maybe many dislike this but we cannot deny the ruling party is choose by majority of this nation.  
it is through open democratic process. 

If purse more different views from the public, it is better to have part of MP seats base proportional representation of the votes.
the distribution of seats corresponds to the proportion of the total votes cast for each party.

It would be much more meaningful than having two parties system. 

Quite a number of countries have this practices. At any time there will be some different heard in parliament
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